jetstream23 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Plummer didn’t mention GM, but I’d put the QB ahead of him in importance as well. Agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 A legitimate franchise QB is obviously more important than the head coach. But you need to be really good. The starting QB isn't more important by definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 There are some exceptions too. Players from other positions can change the whole attitude of a team. I think Ray Lewis was a good example. That guy always had the ravens defense fired up and ready to play.Sent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 I think of it in terms of who wields the power, who has the clout in the organization. If we believe how things went down in NE this past year you could say Brady pulled rank over Belichick with Kraft to get Jimmy G traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Treehorn Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 “Forumists” should be up there somewhere. Essential for any franchise with self respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnackExchange Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 A successful franchise, is successful from the top down. Owner, GM, coaching staff, players. Players, in the grand scheme, have little power or say in how things are run. The Rams would've ruined Goff, if not for a change in coaching. The Eagles, turned the corner when they got the front office in order. The owner has to want to win, hire well, and get the hell out of the way. The GM needs to put together all the machinery, from scouting dept, to coaching staff, to roster. We've seen well run franchises win without great QB play, but we rarely see a great QB overcome a poorly run franchise. Peyton Manning, should've won more than one title in Indianapolis. Of course, there are exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 you just need a sane owner with average intelligence and morals who wants to win and do best for the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 3 hours ago, nico002 said: you just need a sane owner with average intelligence and morals who wants to win and do best for the fans. Know anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 The fans They must apply appropriate enthusiasm and criticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 It's hard to say. On one hand it can be viewed that the Coach should be viewed as the most important outside of the Owner. Some may feel that the GM is the person who is the most important. Just look at Baltimore, No one is more important than Ozzie Newsome, he's the one who drafted Ray Lewis and built those Raven teams that won superbowls and were known for having a nasty defense. Some would say Quarterback given that Superbowls and quarterbacks have been linked together to the point that it's viewed as you cant win a SB unless you have that special QB,...that franchise QB. It adds to the overvaluing of the position honestly. With all that said, it really comes down to the Owner and what they're trying to build as a team. If I was an Owner I would has as most to least important: GM/Coach/QB. The GM brings in the talent (which includes the QB) and the coach develops the talent (which includes the QB). I would be looking to build a complete, more balanced team with interchangeable pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 16 minutes ago, Larz said: The fans They must apply appropriate enthusiasm and criticism With our fanbase I guess one out of two ain't bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 QB is the most important, because a great QB can make an average or even a bad owner/gm/coach look good. But the teams that have a good structure of owner/gm/coach are usually the ones that find a good QB, not always, but mostly. QB first is the most important, followed by owner, because a good gm, who will be able to make sure to surround that QB with players and coaches who will enhance and protect the QB. Then owner, then coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 QB is far more important than the owner. Owner has one job. Hire the GM. That’s it. Anything beyond that means he’s essentially making himself a GM (Jerry mf Jones). That’s a different scenario now. He’s now the owner AND the GM. If you suck, you suck as a GM, not owner. Owner is simply an investor. Again, anything beyond hiring a GM is essentially acting as a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: QB is the most important, because a great QB can make an average or even a bad owner/gm/coach look good. But the teams that have a good structure of owner/gm/coach are usually the ones that find a good QB, not always, but mostly. QB first is the most important, followed by owner, because a good gm, who will be able to make sure to surround that QB with players and coaches who will enhance and protect the QB. Then owner, then coach. Belichick is more important than Kraft and is probably the most important guy in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: Belichick is more important than Kraft and is probably the most important guy in football. Hes a rare exception for sure and to me is more important than Brady. But the majority of coaches are not as important as a Belicheck or few other coaches in sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Offensive Line, without that you are toast. Therefore we draft safeties. They keep those passes down to 13-15yds. Wear out their offense by keeping them on the field. Bowles is a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Matt39 said: Belichick is more important than Kraft and is probably the most important guy in football. I think you meant to say Ernie Adams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 QB. Not even close. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Message board posters far and away. Nobody contributes more to the success than obnoxious, know it all Madden experts with 4 years of FFB experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Qb, coach, gm, owner unless the coach is Beli, then coach first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSage Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Can say from an owner's standpoint the most important person if probably the head coach. John Hess once told me that I would be sorry I gave up my tickets because of Parcells coming in as head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 A great qb makes everyone look smart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 5/12/2018 at 2:22 PM, Matt39 said: Brady is more important than Kraft and is probably the most important guy in football. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 On 5/12/2018 at 9:07 AM, jetstream23 said: I think of it in terms of who wields the power, who has the clout in the organization. If we believe how things went down in NE this past year you could say Brady pulled rank over Belichick with Kraft to get Jimmy G traded. and it can be argued that kraft made the wrong decision. brady is clearly in decline and has maybe two good seasons left. garapollo may be around for a decade or more and the way that sf team changed their ways shows he has got their ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Its GM, Then Owner, then Coach, Then QB... But GM by far and away is the most important. They bring in the people, good or bad... Owner has to hire the right GM and its up to the players to perform... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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