JetNation Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 While your average NFL fan may take a peek at the box scores on Monday morning to determine just how well a player is performing, anyone who takes the time to watch Jets defensive lineman Leonard Williams on film knows that he’s a far better player than his pedestrian stat line (47 tackles, 2 sacks) would suggests. Now, it seems tat after watching Williams in action, the folks at Pro Football Focus would agree. The site, which breaks down every NFL player on every NFL play and offers their analysis has placed Williams on their “Top 25 players under 25” list, saying the following about the former sixth overall pick out of USC: 16. LEONARD WILLIAMS, DI, NEW YORK JETS Williams’ play has been incredibly consistent since being drafted in the top-10 of the 2015 draft as he is yet to record a single year-long grade under 84.8 overall. While 2017 wasn’t his best, he was still disruptive as both a pass-rusher and defending the run. Over the past two seasons, Williams has notched 37 combined sacks and hits, and among interior defenders, only Aaron Donald has more. The Jets are hoping that by dumping malcontent defensive lineman Muhammad Wilkerson, there will be an uptick in Williams’ production as Gang Green will no longer be in a position in which they’re essentially playing with 10 defenders. The post Leonard Williams Makes PFF top Players Under 25 List appeared first on NY Jets News. Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 KING LEO Total stud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscreen Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Leonard Williams almost a total disappointment through his first 3 seasons. I was expecting big things from him last season, but instead he was a disappearing act. This is case in point the player that doesn't exactly give you that warm and fuzzy feeling about Mac or Blowes. Blowes makes every player look rather underwhelming, although you'd never know if they were ever great players to begin with and that doesn't exactly shine a positive light on Macs drafting abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 don't quite get what this is based on. Average player who has underachieved IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 This will be a better year for Leo. His first two years were nice. Last year he played on a penalty kill d line. . Mo was a non factor and the line played one man down the entire year. . With the new Young hungry players Out there there trying to prove themselves Leo will play up to his potential this year. So relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: This will be a better year for Leo. His first two years were nice. Last year he played on a penalty kill d line. . Mo was a non factor and the line played one man down the entire year. . With the new Young hungry players Out there there trying to prove themselves Leo will play up to his potential this year. So relax. Im hoping the same thing Crusher we really haven't seen this kids true potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Mo Wilkerson gave up last year after the 1st throat punch he received from an olineman. What a TURD! Now that Leo will have two hungry young strong brawlers swapping time next to him in & Trumaine and Morris locking guys up for that 1 second needed to wreak havoc Leo the Lion will become a known commodity in the NFL. Even youngsters fans who are not fans of the Jets can't help but dig that giant Lions Mane. Book it, Leonard feasts in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Leo is solid but not the type of impact player you’d hope to get at 6. The athleticism matters when you’re taking a DT that high as it separates the Donald’s and Fletcher Cox’s from the guys who are just good ( and can find later in draft). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Jetscreen said: Leonard Williams almost a total disappointment through his first 3 seasons. I was expecting big things from him last season, but instead he was a disappearing act. This is case in point the player that doesn't exactly give you that warm and fuzzy feeling about Mac or Blowes. Blowes makes every player look rather underwhelming, although you'd never know if they were ever great players to begin with and that doesn't exactly shine a positive light on Macs drafting abilities. Correct. If he was a 4th round pick hed be ok. But the 6th pick in the draft? He should be dominating every game. As the 6th pick int he draft, he is a terrible player and a huge disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Fire Macc, amarite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Trade this beast!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 This is a make or break year for his legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 I like Williams a lot, but he’s had kind of an odd career. Guys who record a ton of QB hits, which he has, almost always end up recording a ton of sacks, which he hasn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 48 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Correct. If he was a 4th round pick hed be ok. But the 6th pick in the draft? He should be dominating every game. As the 6th pick int he draft, he is a terrible player and a huge disappointment. You can’t make this bull sh*t up. well I guess you can..because you just did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, dbatesman said: I like Williams a lot, but he’s had kind of an odd career. Guys who record a ton of QB hits, which he has, almost always end up recording a ton of sacks, which he hasn’t. I think the problem is that Williams is just really good, not great. He's a guy that impacts games every week but never seems to dominate them, at least consistently. And just to be clear, that's all fine. The Jets are lucky to have him. He's their best top 10 pick after Brick and seems like he's the anti-Wilk/Sheldon too. There's nothing wrong with being really good. We should pay him and he's been worthy of being selected #6 overall, and I think given our history with first rounders the past 3 decades that's ******* fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 On 5/19/2018 at 9:04 AM, JetNation said: While your average NFL fan may take a peek at the box scores on Monday morning to determine just how well a player is performing, anyone who takes the time to watch Jets defensive lineman Leonard Williams on film knows that he’s a far better player than his pedestrian stat line (47 tackles, 2 sacks) would suggests. Now, it seems tat after watching Williams in action, the folks at Pro Football Focus would agree. The site, which breaks down every NFL player on every NFL play and offers their analysis has placed Williams on their “Top 25 players under 25” list, saying the following about the former sixth overall pick out of USC: 16. LEONARD WILLIAMS, DI, NEW YORK JETS Williams’ play has been incredibly consistent since being drafted in the top-10 of the 2015 draft as he is yet to record a single year-long grade under 84.8 overall. While 2017 wasn’t his best, he was still disruptive as both a pass-rusher and defending the run. Over the past two seasons, Williams has notched 37 combined sacks and hits, and among interior defenders, only Aaron Donald has more. The Jets are hoping that by dumping malcontent defensive lineman Muhammad Wilkerson, there will be an uptick in Williams’ production as Gang Green will no longer be in a position in which they’re essentially playing with 10 defenders. The post Leonard Williams Makes PFF top Players Under 25 List appeared first on NY Jets News. Click here to read the full story... This article doesn't take into account the fact that Leo was double teamed all season because opposing teams knew that Mo really didn't care anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: Leo is solid but not the type of impact player you’d hope to get at 6. The athleticism matters when you’re taking a DT that high as it separates the Donald’s and Fletcher Cox’s from the guys who are just good ( and can find later in draft). I'll take him at 6 over an under performing loud mouth ***** like Adams. He has skills and is a leader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said: Correct. If he was a 4th round pick hed be ok. But the 6th pick in the draft? He should be dominating every game. As the 6th pick int he draft, he is a terrible player and a huge disappointment. You are thinking of "Never made an impact in the SEC Adams". Leo is a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: You are thinking of "Never made an impact in the SEC Adams". Leo is a good player. Do you want me to pull up numbers from his time in college to confirm his “impact in the SEC”? because that is just pure crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 yes , watch SEC football. Never heard of him til the draft. #bs6pick 5 picks in 3 years for 30 yds. Whoop Whoop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: yes , watch SEC football. Never heard of him til the draft. #bs6pick 5 picks in 3 years for 30 yds. Whoop Whoop. He’s a box safety, genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: I think the problem is that Williams is just really good, not great. He's a guy that impacts games every week but never seems to dominate them, at least consistently. And just to be clear, that's all fine. The Jets are lucky to have him. He's their best top 10 pick after Brick and seems like he's the anti-Wilk/Sheldon too. There's nothing wrong with being really good. We should pay him and he's been worthy of being selected #6 overall, and I think given our history with first rounders the past 3 decades that's ******* fine. Yes, although it’s not so fine that Vic Beasley went two picks later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, dbatesman said: Yes, although it’s not so fine that Vic Beasley went two picks later. This is true. But on the other hand, we didn't draft Vernon Gholston again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 Could be much better but our coach has no clue how to put a impact player in a the best place possible to succeed. He also has a lousy, fat loafer like mo wilk on the line and thus no one worried about anyone but him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: This is true. But on the other hand, we didn't draft Vernon Gholston again. You’re starting to sound like bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, dbatesman said: You’re starting to sound like bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 At least Jets fans are equal opportunity dumpers.. We are quick to say that the bad players are bad and the good players are not that good. How can player be against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: He’s a box safety, genius. And that box is empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 How many 34 DE does anyone ever hear about? Richard Seymoour is an all decade but it wasn't like he was a highlight reel. You can, you do, say a lot of the same things about Adams but he's a really good player. Glad neither are busts. The rest will come down to Darnold. So can they please start signing and drafting OL and O weapons from here on out please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, HessStation said: How many 34 DE does anyone ever hear about? Richard Seymoour is an all decade but it wasn't like he was a highlight reel. You can, you do, say a lot of the same things about Adams but he's a really good player. Glad neither are busts. The rest will come down to Darnold. So can they please start signing and drafting OL and O weapons from here on out please. Williams and Adams are good players. Williams was supposedly the “best” player in his draft class who dropped to the Jets. I don’t know whether that was the case. Safest is probably the better word. But after the QBs he was good pick. Scherff is good. Beasley gets sacks. Gurley was probably the best player after the QBs. I think when Wilkerson and Richardson were on they were better players than Williams is now. Hopefully the space eaters they drafted let Williams sign, and that Williams is worth a big contract extension. For DLs they seldom work out. The Darnold article touched on the “reason” Adams was drafted-basically his lockeroom leadership. There are multiple videos of his college highlights and how valuable he was. He is a box safety. I don’t know whether they are sixth picks otherwise. I would be interested to see what he is worth after his contract expires. I think the talent left on the board was better in the Adams draft than the Williams draft, all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Leonard Williams is very good. He's very close to being great. He's played 3 NFL seasons and has not turned 24 yet. If you have a problem with Williams, well your player evaluation skills are questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Somewhat disappointing career so far far from a bust and there’s still hope for bigger things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Fantasy Island said: You are thinking of "Never made an impact in the SEC Adams". . Total crap ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Matt39 said: Leo is solid but not the type of impact player you’d hope to get at 6. The athleticism matters when you’re taking a DT that high as it separates the Donald’s and Fletcher Cox’s from the guys who are just good ( and can find later in draft). I'm hoping with the improved secondary Leo will have that 1/2 second extra to turn those hits into sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Thai Jet said: I'm hoping with the improved secondary Leo will have that 1/2 second extra to turn those hits into sacks. ? well you are not wrong. But it’s mind boggling how a team who chases defense more then any other team in draft/FA all these yrs, still does not have a legitimate pass rusher. Not even close to 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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