JetNation Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 On the first day of full team OTA’s, Jets quarterback Christian Hackenberg shared a few thoughts that are sure to ruffle some feathers at 1 Jets drive. According to Rich Cimini of ESPN New York, while speaking with the media about his time with Gang Green through his first two seasons, Hackenberg didn’t have a very flattering take in regards to how things have unfolded. “There were some times when I threw it really good during my first two years here,” Hackenberg said. “That was the frustrating part for me, the ups and downs and not knowing why — does that make sense? — and not really getting any information from anybody on how to fix that and how to address it.” While much of what Hackenberg said could be a kid voicing some frustration over not playing, but to suggest there was no communication from the coaching staff isn’t a great look for Todd Bowles’ staff. To make matters worse, Hackenberg said he was excited that “somebody stepped up” to help him in the form of former Jets quarterbacks coach David Lee, who introduced Hackenberg to QB guru Jeff Christensen. Hackenberg and Christensen have been working together for two months, leading Hackenberg to say he has a “solid foundation for the first time in a long time” as you can see in the video below from Dennis Waszak Jr. of the Associated Press. #Jets QB Christian Hackenberg says “for the first time in a long time” he’s got “a solid foundation” with his fundamentals. Worked with personal coach Jeff Christensen in offseason. pic.twitter.com/4Vaa0GEbI7 — Dennis Waszak Jr. (@DWAZ73) May 22, 2018 Cimini goes on to point out the fact that Hackenberg contradicted head coach Todd Bowles who said earlier this off-season that he was unaware of the quarterback’s plan to work on his throwing mechanics. “Everyone has been aware of the plan since January”, claimed the former Penn State quarterback according to Cimini. Hackenberg’s time with the Jets has been a complete disaster up to this point as head coach Todd Bowles hasn’t felt the need to allow him to play a single regular season snap despite having plenty of chances to send him out there to dip his toe in the water. Jets fans, which Todd Bowles decision was most frustrating for you last season? — Glenn Naughton (@AceFan23) May 20, 2018 As frustrated as Jets fans may be by Bowles’ decision to keep Hackenberg on the bench, it would be disingenuous to say Hackenberg has been any better that what you might expect from an undrafted free agent project QB in his limited pre-season action over two years. With first-round draft pick Sam Darnold in the fold, Hackenberg is hanging on to his roster spot by a thread and he knows he’s not starting any football games this season. Could this be an attempt to force the organization’s hand to cut ties, or is he sincerely being candid and looking to move on with a positive attitude? Chime in here and let us know what you think. The post Hackenberg “Frustrated” by Past Handling, “Excited” Moving Forward appeared first on NY Jets News. Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Well, now he can be frustrated in Las Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 what a kick in the nuts it would be if Hackenberg actually looks like a good QB with some decent coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Could just be damage control by Hack for his poor preparation and lack of effort on his part, but also waters the seed (that has been in my head anyway), about our CS's ability to develop a young QB. Furthermore, is Bowles lying about not knowing Hack was working on his mechanics off season? Hack says everyone knew. I assume the HC would be part of everyone, no? Something is not right here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexorcism Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Another indictment on Bowles, why do us Jet fans always end up with idiot HC’s? What did we do to deaerve this?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Wait so the NY Jets aren't handling QB's properly? No sh*t........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Who wants to bet that loser DCs kid plays snaps on defense during the regular season this year?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 32 minutes ago, NoBowles said: what a kick in the nuts it would be if Hackenberg actually looks like a good QB with some decent coaching. Todd Bowles is an Idiot this is more than a few times he seems to be totally out of the loop If Hack made the team aware he was practicing with a QB coach how in the hell could Todd Bowles not know that Not to mention how could Todd Bowles have a QB on his roster and never give the Kid a chance to play in a real game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Just now, Smashmouth said: Todd Bowles is an Idiot this is more than a few times he seems to be totally out of the loop If Hack made the team aware he was practicing with a QB coach how in the hell could Todd Bowles not know that Not to mention how could Todd Bowles have a QB on his roster and never give the Kid a chance to play in a real game Agree on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Being drafted as a QB (or most positions) has been the NFL equivalent of hell. Let’s hope Darnold doesn’t suffer the same fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 The Jets don't care, they Have Sam Darnold, Hack was never in their plans, once they snagged Sam 3rd overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, NoBowles said: Being drafted as a QB (or most positions) has been the NFL equivalent of hell. Let’s hope Darnold doesn’t suffer the same fate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 You guys did see him play in the preseason last year, right? He sucked. They gave him a chance to win the job and he fell on his face. He was 21st in yards, but 5th in attempts. All the guys ahead of him in attempts had at least 80 yards more. Matt ******* Simms had 3 more attempts and 612 yards compared to 372. One of the only guys that was worse? Connor Cook. Guess that is why the Raiders gave him a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Just now, #27TheDominator said: You guys did see him play in the preseason last year, right? He sucked. They gave him a chance to win the job and he fell on his face. He was 21st in yards, but 5th in attempts. All the guys ahead of him in attempts had at least 80 yards more. Matt ******* Simms had 3 more attempts and 612 yards compared to 372. One of the only guys that was worse? Connor Cook. Guess that is why the Raiders gave him a shot. 1 preseason game was hardly an audition, did you see some of the games Ryan Fitzpatrick play namely the 6 INT game against the Chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: You guys did see him play in the preseason last year, right? He sucked. They gave him a chance to win the job and he fell on his face. He was 21st in yards, but 5th in attempts. All the guys ahead of him in attempts had at least 80 yards more. Matt ******* Simms had 3 more attempts and 612 yards compared to 372. One of the only guys that was worse? Connor Cook. Guess that is why the Raiders gave him a shot. So if the Jets start Darnold in the PS with guys who will be bagging groceries in a few weeks and he sucks does he sit on the bench for two seasons. No 3 PS games was never a true chance for Hack , his chance ended when he was drafted into an organization that had no clue how to develop a QB. Hopefully Bates and Rick Dennison have a plan for Sam as I have no faith in our HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: 1 preseason game was hardly an audition, did you see some of the games Ryan Fitzpatrick play namely the 6 INT game against the Chiefs. 1 preseason game? He got over 20 attempts in 3 of the games. In the other he played a full half week 2 against the Lions and looked like he had no idea what the protection schemes were. He was constantly sacked and fumbled. If he only played "1 preseason game" how did he manage to throw 2 INTs and fumble 5 times? He looked lost and Petty outplayed him by a mile. Think about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: So if the Jets start Darnold in the PS with guys who will be bagging groceries in a few weeks and he sucks does he sit on the bench for two seasons. No 3 PS games was never a true chance for Hack , his chance ended when he was drafted into an organization that had no clue how to develop a QB. Hopefully Bates and Rick Dennison have a plan for Sam as I have no faith in our HC. He started 2 of the games and he was outplayed by Bryce Petty by a country mile. Bryce Petty came from a spread offense and rarely took snaps from under center, but Hackenberg deserves a 3rd redshirt season? They changed offensive coordinators specifically to help him. That is why he was moved ahead of Petty in camp after playing worse all of 2016. Maybe the change of scenery will do him well, but Gruden doesn't have such a great track record with young QBs. Most of his success came with vets, and older vets at that - Gannon, Johnson, Garcia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 He became expendable this off-season. He is going to be a Mark against Mac but at least Mac moved on from something he realized was not working.Sent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rangerous Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, ASH1962 said: Could just be damage control by Hack for his poor preparation and lack of effort on his part, but also waters the seed (that has been in my head anyway), about our CS's ability to develop a young QB. Furthermore, is Bowles lying about not knowing Hack was working on his mechanics off season? Hack says everyone knew. I assume the HC would be part of everyone, no? Something is not right here. bowles knew. i don't have any doubt about that. but there could be something in the cba that the jets might have been afraid of and decided to say they didn't know. at least the trade gets rid of the qb log jam. hack gets another chance and everyone should be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, NoBowles said: what a kick in the nuts it would be if Hackenberg actually looks like a good QB with some decent coaching. Is there any doubt that this will happen? Btw, a bigger kick in the nuts would be if Hack succeeds, Bridgewater succeeds and then leaves as a FA and Darnold is a bust. I could easily see the 1st 2 happening but I am optimistic about Darnold (though I do want Bowles gone yesterday!) 1 hour ago, ASH1962 said: Could just be damage control by Hack for his poor preparation and lack of effort on his part, but also waters the seed (that has been in my head anyway), about our CS's ability to develop a young QB. Furthermore, is Bowles lying about not knowing Hack was working on his mechanics off season? Hack says everyone knew. I assume the HC would be part of everyone, no? Something is not right here. As your profile pic says: "Fire Bowles" 1 hour ago, Rexorcism said: Another indictment on Bowles, why do us Jet fans always end up with idiot HC’s? What did we do to deaerve this? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I don't know but he's still here for some reason. He'd better not screw up Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Nobody else was picking him in the 2nd round. Mac pumped his chest and thought he had a steal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: You guys did see him play in the preseason last year, right? He sucked. They gave him a chance to win the job and he fell on his face. He was 21st in yards, but 5th in attempts. All the guys ahead of him in attempts had at least 80 yards more. Matt ******* Simms had 3 more attempts and 612 yards compared to 372. One of the only guys that was worse? Connor Cook. Guess that is why the Raiders gave him a shot. you’re gonna feel really dumb when the Raiders coaches make him good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 47 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: 1 preseason game? He got over 20 attempts in 3 of the games. In the other he played a full half week 2 against the Lions and looked like he had no idea what the protection schemes were. He was constantly sacked and fumbled. If he only played "1 preseason game" how did he manage to throw 2 INTs and fumble 5 times? He looked lost and Petty outplayed him by a mile. Think about that. Todd Bowles never gave the kid a fair chance including practice reps. I fear for Sam Darnold under HC Todd Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Todd Bowles never gave the kid a fair chance including practice reps. I fear for Sam Darnold under HC Todd Bowles. Bryce Petty was by far the worst qb in the entire nfl the last 4 games of the season. We were out of the playoffs, yet Bowles was scared to play hackenberg?. It’s mind boggling the decisions that guy makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Hack had his ps opportunities. Petty, who sucks, outplayed him. End of story. Good luck hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I watched almost every snap of Hack's PSU career. You dudes who are waiting for Hack to turn into a decent QB after some "good coaching" are going to be waiting a long, long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Bryce Petty was by far the worst qb in the entire nfl the last 4 games of the season. We were out of the playoffs, yet Bowles was scared to play hackenberg?. It’s mind boggling the decisions that guy makes. Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Bryce Petty was by far the worst qb in the entire nfl the last 4 games of the season. We were out of the playoffs, yet Bowles was scared to play hackenberg?. It’s mind boggling the decisions that guy makes. Exactly right. It was absolutely ridiculous that Bowles couldn't have thrown Hack in there. There was absolutely NOTHING to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Paxton Lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Bowles IS an idiot but that doesn't change the fact that Hack just sux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: I watched almost every snap of Hack's PSU career. You dudes who are waiting for Hack to turn into a decent QB after some "good coaching" are going to be waiting a long, long time. Then you obviously saw his Freshman season under O'Brien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Hack is “frustrated” in the same way I am frustrated when I play golf: it’s called sucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 The Jets did flounder his ‘development’. No doubt. The fact that he sucks just exacerbated the Jets incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 3 hours ago, NoBowles said: what a kick in the nuts it would be if Hackenberg actually looks like a good QB with some decent coaching. not happening. and if so, who cares? not me. Sammy D! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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