Which 2019 Free Agents Might Be Attracted By Chris Jones' Stand?

[Doggin94it]

A little bit lost in the discussion of the anthem policy and Jones' position was the fact that beyond the principle of Jones' position, he just set himself up as a "player's owner" who will be a draw for free agents in his own right.  That goes beyond just the kneeling - I don't think there's a player in the NFL who won't be happy with the idea of an owner who is willing to eat fines that he can pass on to his players - but it'll be especially attractive for any free agents who care about the anthem issue in particular.  So, who might that be?  Any good players at positions of need?  Let's run through OTC's 2019 free agency list and take a look.

LT Duane Brown - Brown is currently on the last year of his deal with the Seahawks and is headed into his age 33 season.  With 4 Pro Bowls and an All-Pro selection under his belt, Brown is the type of tackle who can legitimately play into his mid-30s, and he has less mileage on him than most 33 year olds due to time lost to injury.  He also got into it pretty hard core with Bob McNair over the anthem when he was a member of the Texans.  Assuming they don't extend Beachum, Brown might be a good option for the Jets on a 3 year deal as a bridge LT, enabling the Jets to draft a pass rusher in next year's first round and look for a long term solution at LT later in the draft or in the next season's draft.

OLB Jadeveon Clowney - Another Texan who took part in the anthem protests and has a bad relationship with ownership there, the Clowney fit here is obvious.  The inverse of Brown, if the Jets sign Clowney, they can turn their first round attention to the OL next season instead of looking for a passrusher.  Or they could go the Broncos route and grab a bookend passrusher.  Either way, the Jets will have the money to bring Clowney in if he's not franchised next season.  The Texans have 61M in cap space for next year and Kareem Jackson is their only other tag candidate, so I'd bet on Clowney being tagged. 

OLB Derrick Morgan - A more realistic possibility might be Titans OLB Derrick Morgan.  Morgan has spoken up on racial issues in the past, took part in the anthem protests - and plays on the same team as Taylor Lewan, who's the player the Titans will franchise next offseason (assuming they don't work out an extension first). 

OLBs Shane Ray & Shaq Barrett - Both Broncos OLBs participated in the anthem protests, both are young players set to hit FA for the first time - and both are likely to be looking for new teams next offseason, with Denver set (and terrifying) at OLB for the foreseeable future with bookends Miller and Chubb.

DE DeMarcus Lawrence - Hard to gauge where he stands on the anthem protests given where he plays, but after the Cowboys did their "kneel then stand" thing last year, he gave an interview where he talked about how good it felt to know that Jerry Jones had the players' backs on the issue.  Considering Jones was leading the charge on the new rule, and that he's playing this year on a franchise tag for a team whose 2019 offseason priority will (should) probably be redoing and extending Dak Prescott's deal ... Lawrence could be a real possibility here.

 

 

[T0mShane]

I think everyone other than Incognito and Derek Wolfe, which imo is good news for us.

[j4jets]

[BigRy56]

All of them. The Jets will land whoever they want next season. A great owner and a franchise QB with elite potential will do that

[dbatesman]

Who is Chris Jones

[Matt39]

This is beyond delusional

[j4jets]

6 minutes ago, BigRy56 said:

All of them. The Jets will land whoever they want next season. A great owner and a franchise QB with elite potential will do that

Love the optimism. I’d keep the “elite” tag out of the QB discussions for now, until proven otherwise. 

[j4jets]

4 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Who is Chris Jones

I suspect Jerry Jones brother. 

One of these below:

[UntouchableCrew]

I don't think players will really end up making decisions on who to play for based on this sort of stuff. Maybe there are a handful that will steer clear of the McNair types but by and large money will be the primary motivator and fit/scheme/city/coach will come in next.

The best advantage we have in signing 2019 FAs is that 1) we have lots of cap space and 2) hopefully we have a budding franchise QB and look like a good young team heading in the right direction.

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I don't think players will really end up making decisions on who to play for based on this sort of stuff. Maybe there are a handful that will steer clear of the McNair types but by and large money will be the primary motivator and fit/scheme/city/coach will come in next.

The best advantage we have in signing 2019 FAs is that 1) we have lots of cap space and 2) hopefully we have a budding franchise QB and look like a good young team heading in the right direction.

The only thing that matters is if Darnolds the truth or not. Khalil Mack isn’t signing here because he thinks the owners a nice enough guy.

[Thai Jet]

16 minutes ago, j4jets said:

PASS . I think (hope) we're all set on QB's.

[j4jets]

1 minute ago, Thai Jet said:

PASS . I think (hope) we're all set on QB's.

What? You don’t think he can hold the clipboard? Pass is what he CANT do. 

[RutgersJetFan]

2 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Who is Chris Jones

Isn't that the dude whose dick fell out at the combine?

[Thai Jet]

5 minutes ago, j4jets said:

I suspect Jerry Jones brother. 

I saw Chris Jones but read it as Chris Johnson.

[Larz]

It will come down to QB and cash 

If the Jets have a QB with a good reputation when FA opens that is the key 

And cash of course 

[T0mShane]

I think the Chris Johnson stance takes a big free agent from “**** that” status to “what are they offering?” status. 

[Thai Jet]

10 minutes ago, Larz said:

It will come down to QB and cash 

If the Jets have a QB with a good reputation when FA opens that is the key 

And cash of course 

It's all about the Benjamins 

[Thai Jet]

2 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think the Chris Johnson stance takes a big free agent from “**** that” status to “what are they offering?” status. 

Totally agree.And as a team that's all you want...a chance to compete for FA's.

[jetrider]

22 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

Who is Chris Jones

Secret threadlocker jammer code name. !00% guaranteed mod proof 

[RutgersJetFan]

8 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think the Chris Johnson stance takes a big free agent from “**** that” status to “what are they offering?” status. 

That's Mr. Jones to you, buster.

[T0mShane]

3 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said:

That's Mr. Jones to you, buster.

It’s a cooler name anyway. Like, I’m Mike JOOOONES cool

[Ken Schroy]

Wont matter 1 bit if the team sux and wont pay. And it shouldn't.

[jetrider]

11 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

I think the Chris Johnson stance takes a big free agent from “**** that” status to “what are they offering?” status. 

I think the Johnson mind trick is to be so cool that no player wants to cost him a fine. Problem solved. 

 

[detectivekimble]

36 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

The only thing that matters is if Darnolds the truth or not. Khalil Mack isn’t signing here because he thinks the owners a nice enough guy.

True, but if all things(money, team has a good QB)  are equal or close to equal, I'm sure a player will take these other things into account.

[HawkeyeJet]

It can't hurt, but I don't know that it will help.  If Darnold plays this year and looks like he has a future, that's what will be the main draw.

[Sperm Edwards]

18 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said:

It can't hurt, but I don't know what will help.  If Darnold plays this year and looks like he has a future, that's what will be the main draw.

The reason FAs stayed away was the team looked like it had no direction (along with our poor reputation among agents), even when we were the highest bidder. People can blame NY or the taxes or whatever, but that's the reason. Players weren't turning down the Giants. 

Players were going to get similar guaranteed money from competing teams. The perception was that we'd use up those 2 years and then we'd release them with their playing reputations in tatters. In other words, they'd make more money elsewhere even though we were the highest bidder, because they'd stand a better chance of sticking around past the guaranteed portion alone.

If Darnold looks as you say, then it'll go a long way. If he looks meh as a rookie and we earn another #6 overall pick, this won't save us even if some players appreciate the gesture. What'll end up helping then is repeatedly outbidding the next team by 20% or more.

[jason423]

I dont anticipate it being a selling point. Maybe if the league had done this February right before free agency but most likely it will blow over by next March. I mean maybe a handful of owners will fine the players (Jones, McNair, etc...) but I tend to think that most will not even do it and will simply not comment on any fines. Right now the Jets are still I think trailing a good portion of the NFL in terms of how quickly they move on players at a big price. With the team hopefully getting better that will be more of a selling point but if they do want to land bigger free agents they probably have to be more aggressive at the outset. 

[jetstream23]

1 hour ago, Thai Jet said:

It's all about the Benjamins 

Benjamin Jones?

This thread confuses me.

I didn't know Woody's brother could sell the team so quickly, but look at me....unable to keep up with the Joneses.

 

[Thai Jet]

1 minute ago, jetstream23 said:

Benjamin Jones?

This thread confuses me.

I didn't know Woody's brother could sell the team so quickly, but look at me....unable to keep up with the Joneses.

 

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[Doggin94it]

2 hours ago, Thai Jet said:

I saw Chris Jones but read it as Chris Johnson.

Funny, so did I

[JohnnyLV]

Let's be clear: It was a HALF stand. If he had voted against it, and made the statement, that would be a stand. Or abstained. But he voted for it. There is apparently some rumors that there was no vote at all and the NFL just did it, but who knows if that is true. But he is still ahead of 30 other owners on the issue

[Saul Goodman]

None.

For one, no Jet player will kneel on the sideline. Chris Johnson knows this, what he said was simply lip service to appease the players. All hell would break loose if the team actually paid a player fine. The league and the owner’s fraternity would go apesh*t. 

Second, no player is making a decision to sign with the Jets because of what Chris Johnson said. And my personal opinion is we wouldn’t want those players on the team anyways. It would hurt the brand to be the team where these players flock it. 

[Miss Lonelyhearts]

If somebody gets us fined, almost none. If not, none.

[Cyberjet]

It means nothing. It comes down to $$$$ and winning.

[Thai Jet]

3 hours ago, jason423 said:

I dont anticipate it being a selling point. Maybe if the league had done this February right before free agency but most likely it will blow over by next March. I mean maybe a handful of owners will fine the players (Jones, McNair, etc...) but I tend to think that most will not even do it and will simply not comment on any fines. Right now the Jets are still I think trailing a good portion of the NFL in terms of how quickly they move on players at a big price. With the team hopefully getting better that will be more of a selling point but if they do want to land bigger free agents they probably have to be more aggressive at the outset. 

Agreed it will have no effect as far as FA coming here next year.