bitonti Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 http://fanjuicer.com/2018/05/every-nfl-logo-ranked-by-over-1400-fans 2 questions 1) are the fans who voted on this just biased against the Jets or does the logo really suck? 2) If the logo does in fact suck, the 80's logo? or new? As a sports fan, you may not put much thought into a team’s logo, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t important. From a branding perspective, a good logo is crucial. In fact, a logo is often the first thing others will see when they decide what your brand stands for and what it can do for them. When it comes to the NFL, teams are definitely brands. That’s partly why I was interested in how NFL fans would rank the logos of the league’s 32 teams. I recruited 1,488 fans, primarily from the community at r/NFL, to participate in a MaxDiff research study with the goal of understanding which NFL logos work and which do not. While MaxDiff is a great technique for ranking any long list of items, it particularly shines when it comes to ranking logos. When people are asked to rank 30+ images, it quickly becomes apparent just how impossibly difficult (not to mention time-consuming) that task can be. It is much easier for people to view sets of four logos and choose the one they like most and least in each set. The experience is more enjoyable, less time-consuming, and it yields much more rich and accurate data. That’s why Maxdiff studies like this one are commonly used by big ad agencies and their clients when they have a large number of logo or ad designs and need to choose a few to put into market. It is worth noting that the vast majority of the respondents in this research are hardcore NFL fans. How would you answer the following question? “On a scale of 1 – 5, with ‘5’ being ‘extremely closely’ and ‘1’ being ‘not closely at all,’ how closely would you say you follow NFL football?” In this research, a majority (55%) chose a ‘5’ and 35% chose a ‘4’. In other words, about 9 out of 10 respondents are close followers of the NFL, which means that almost all of the people in this research will have seen these logos before, probably hundreds or even thousands of times in a variety of contexts. It is something worth keeping in mind when looking at the results. In market research, ratings and rankings are all well and good, but we really want to understand why people feel the way they do. I’m not a graphic designer, so it was difficult for me to speculate on why certain logos rose to the top. That’s why I partnered with Eugenie Mclellan, a freelance graphic designer here in New Orleans, to get her take on each logo and their rankings. Eugenie (“The Graphic Designer”) was quick to point out that she’s not a hardcore NFL fan (she’s a ‘2’ on the 1-5 scale), but she does openly identify as a Saints fan. Regardless, she’s probably better than most at separating her opinions on the logos from her feelings for the team. The Panthers’ logo is her favorite from a design standpoint, so take that for what you will. We discussed each logo in a random order, so as not to bias her opinions, but overall she generally agreed with the rankings. Of course there were some big exceptions, which you can read about below. Now to the results! #31 New York Jets The Graphic Designer: There’s too much text layered on top. It’s hard to read and clunky. It doesn’t make visual sense and isn’t clear what is going on. FanJuicer: So you are saying it is too busy? The Graphic Designer: Yes, I am saying that, but it it is busy in a way that does not add anything. FanJuicer: What are your thoughts on this oval shape? The Graphic Designer: The oval is necessary because otherwise all the other elements do not mix properly. Without the oval there is nothing to contain everything going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 17 minutes ago, bitonti said: http://fanjuicer.com/2018/05/every-nfl-logo-ranked-by-over-1400-fans 2 questions 1) are the fans who voted on this just biased against the Jets or does the logo really suck? 2) If the logo does in fact suck, how quickly can we go back to the 80's logo? Looking at these results, i'd either guess the median age of the fans who voted to be around 4.7 years of age, or if not, an inordinate number of floopahs participated in the survey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I guess the logo has to be simple to be appealing, unless its a Browns logo, which is merely a color, and comes in last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I do agree. It is one of the worst ones. And agree with everything he said, it's way too busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Yes. It's awful. Jets are supposed to be sleek speed machines. That logo resembles nothing of the sort. It's clunky I've used that exact word multiple times. But it's "retro" so it gets a free pass. I'm no graphic designer, but I have said in multiple threads how the logo and uniforms are too busy. Most seem to think they are "simple", but they have a lot going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I need front office to get it together and reinvent a better version of this..the current logo is tiresome..it doesn’t have to be exactly this..just build your concept around this and make something nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Pretty obvious, considering there is not one aspect of a jet located anywhere in our logo or on our uniforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I feel most of the attire I see the players and coaches wearing does not include this logo but a different one (whether it’s that NY one or the 80s one, or something else). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Honestly, most of the “other team fans” I’ve spoken to really have the worst concept of the Jets all together. There isn’t an expectation for us to get it together. I hate fb for this because I argue with for ex. Giants fans; and they forever have to mention the Jets reconstructing for that last 5 decades. Let the others say what they have to say I just want the Jets to prove everyone wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 The logo does suck. Go back to the 80s logo! With that said, some of the other logos up there like the Lions are not great. Miami's logo in particular is brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, GATA said: Honestly, most of the “other team fans” I’ve spoken to really have the worst concept of the Jets all together. There isn’t an expectation for us to get it together. I hate fb for this because I argue with for ex. Giants fans; and they forever have to mention the Jets reconstructing for that last 5 decades. Let the others say what they have to say I just want the Jets to prove everyone wrong. Yes. Facebook is unbearable as far as teams fans talking sh*t about the Jets goes. The Patriots fans are the worst but it’s like everyone on there sounds so damn ignorant when they comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 ..how 'bout ?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 The Browns helmet is iconic. This article is silly. However I do agree that the Jets logo sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Yawn. Minicamp needs to start ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreenGhost Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Yes, the logo sucks. Either: 1. Go back to the 80's logo or 2. Replace it with a fighter jet or 3. A combination of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, sourceworx said: The Browns helmet is iconic. This article is silly. However I do agree that the Jets logo sucks. I like the all Brown helmet as part of the uniform but as a team symbol, seems kinda awkward. Putting a brown helmet on a hat....eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 15 minutes ago, sourceworx said: The Browns helmet is iconic. This article is silly. However I do agree that the Jets logo sucks. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, Dcat said: Yawn. Minicamp needs to start ASAP. why ?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, bitonti said: http://fanjuicer.com/2018/05/every-nfl-logo-ranked-by-over-1400-fans 2 questions 1) are the fans who voted on this just biased against the Jets or does the logo really suck? 2) If the logo does in fact suck, the 80's logo? or new? As a sports fan, you may not put much thought into a team’s logo, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t important. From a branding perspective, a good logo is crucial. In fact, a logo is often the first thing others will see when they decide what your brand stands for and what it can do for them. When it comes to the NFL, teams are definitely brands. That’s partly why I was interested in how NFL fans would rank the logos of the league’s 32 teams. I recruited 1,488 fans, primarily from the community at r/NFL, to participate in a MaxDiff research study with the goal of understanding which NFL logos work and which do not. While MaxDiff is a great technique for ranking any long list of items, it particularly shines when it comes to ranking logos. When people are asked to rank 30+ images, it quickly becomes apparent just how impossibly difficult (not to mention time-consuming) that task can be. It is much easier for people to view sets of four logos and choose the one they like most and least in each set. The experience is more enjoyable, less time-consuming, and it yields much more rich and accurate data. That’s why Maxdiff studies like this one are commonly used by big ad agencies and their clients when they have a large number of logo or ad designs and need to choose a few to put into market. It is worth noting that the vast majority of the respondents in this research are hardcore NFL fans. How would you answer the following question? “On a scale of 1 – 5, with ‘5’ being ‘extremely closely’ and ‘1’ being ‘not closely at all,’ how closely would you say you follow NFL football?” In this research, a majority (55%) chose a ‘5’ and 35% chose a ‘4’. In other words, about 9 out of 10 respondents are close followers of the NFL, which means that almost all of the people in this research will have seen these logos before, probably hundreds or even thousands of times in a variety of contexts. It is something worth keeping in mind when looking at the results. In market research, ratings and rankings are all well and good, but we really want to understand why people feel the way they do. I’m not a graphic designer, so it was difficult for me to speculate on why certain logos rose to the top. That’s why I partnered with Eugenie Mclellan, a freelance graphic designer here in New Orleans, to get her take on each logo and their rankings. Eugenie (“The Graphic Designer”) was quick to point out that she’s not a hardcore NFL fan (she’s a ‘2’ on the 1-5 scale), but she does openly identify as a Saints fan. Regardless, she’s probably better than most at separating her opinions on the logos from her feelings for the team. The Panthers’ logo is her favorite from a design standpoint, so take that for what you will. We discussed each logo in a random order, so as not to bias her opinions, but overall she generally agreed with the rankings. Of course there were some big exceptions, which you can read about below. Now to the results! #31 New York Jets The Graphic Designer: There’s too much text layered on top. It’s hard to read and clunky. It doesn’t make visual sense and isn’t clear what is going on. FanJuicer: So you are saying it is too busy? The Graphic Designer: Yes, I am saying that, but it it is busy in a way that does not add anything. FanJuicer: What are your thoughts on this oval shape? The Graphic Designer: The oval is necessary because otherwise all the other elements do not mix properly. Without the oval there is nothing to contain everything going on. I don't agree with any of the results except that the Titans are the 27th best logo. Our like our "retro" logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jimmy 2 Times said: I don't agree with any of the results except that the Titans are the 27th best logo. Our like our "retro" logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, kelly said: why ?.. So I can stop clicking on threads about uniforms or logos. Or those with obnoxious sitcom GiFs from awful shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 57 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: I need front office to get it together and reinvent a better version of this..the current logo is tiresome..it doesn’t have to be exactly this..just build your concept around this and make something nice. This one is actually a much better logo IMO. I hated the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 11 minutes ago, Dcat said: So I can stop clicking on threads about uniforms or logos. Or those with obnoxious sitcom GiFs from awful shows. Or you could just stop clicking on threads about uniforms or logos. But hell yea’ .... really tired of the Big Bang Theory .gifs ... Kelly, Crusher told you to knock it off once already. You have been doing it for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 This one is actually a much better logo IMO. I hated the change.This 80s logo sucks .. looks like an budget airline logo.Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I’m thinking most fans like logos of animals or just things in general. Most of the ones on the right just have letters except for the Ravens. The ones on the left have animals. Pretty sure they mostly polled 5 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, Dcat said: So I can stop clicking on threads about uniforms or logos. Or those with obnoxious sitcom GiFs from awful shows. oh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Or you could just stop clicking on threads about uniforms or logos. But hell yea’ .... really tired of the Big Bang Theory .gifs ... Kelly, Crusher told you to knock it off once already. You have been doing it for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I think you're confusing annoying with offensive. Pretty sure no one is offended by the big bang theory gifs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: I need front office to get it together and reinvent a better version of this..the current logo is tiresome..it doesn’t have to be exactly this..just build your concept around this and make something nice. This 80s logo at least has an actual Jet. I agree with you. The team should go back to a lighter shade of green and build off of the 80s logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: Yes. Facebook is unbearable as far as teams fans talking sh*t about the Jets goes. The Patriots fans are the worst but it’s like everyone on there sounds so damn ignorant when they comment. hmm...I only thought women and teenagers used facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: hmm...I only thought women and teenagers used facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 these results make no sense. evaluating based on design also short sighted, bc identity in football is larger than that. Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Indy, KC, Chicago, Washington, NYG all in the bottom half or quarter. These are all classic logos, classic designs, but more - the history of the football clubs and the cities are the identity. and Really, the Rams? This poll is nonsense. Punishes many "classic design" teams for NOT modernizing and seemingly punishes for political purposes (Wash and KC). How the Raiders and Dallas aren't top 5 or 10 is mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said: Yes. Facebook is unbearable as far as teams fans talking sh*t about the Jets goes. The Patriots fans are the worst but it’s like everyone on there sounds so damn ignorant when they comment. Most of them are bandwagoners and don’t understand the sport so I just sit back and laugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GATA Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: hmm...I only thought women and teenagers used facebook. This is so sexist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, GATA said: This is so sexist #MeToo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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