Bruce Harper Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, bitonti said: Lawrence Thomas ran a 4.98 at 315 http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/lawrence-thomas?id=2555376 he's listed at 286 Dimitri Flowers ran a 4.83 at 248. even almost 40 pounds heavier, there's a decent chance Thomas could beat Flowers in a dead sprint. Why do you say that, because Thomas got faster or because Flowers got slower? Or is it just because you are a Thomas guy? In some of the tape, you see Flowers sprinting away from DBs. He is not that slow for a FB, and faster, with better hands, than Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Speed is overrated for a fullback. I don't think Earl Campbell ran a fast 40, but when you are being chased, you run must faster. (the second part of the sentence, I heard Earl Campbell say to Rickie Williams after Williams was drafted.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 We have a thread like this every year... Ah, forget it. I was trying to think of a flowers joke about perennials but I've got nothing. Help please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Always believed that there was two types of speed. Practice speed and Game speed. Only saw a few of his games at Oklahoma, but he seemed to play fast in those games hence Game speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: We have a thread like this every year... Ah, forget it. I was trying to think of a flowers joke about perennials but I've got nothing. Help please. You can’t lead a horticulture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: We have a thread like this every year... Ah, forget it. I was trying to think of a flowers joke about perennials but I've got nothing. Help please. Have the new mods been deflowered in the mod lounge yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thor99 said: You can’t lead a horticulture. Mid-level terrible, yet better than anything I had so far. 1 minute ago, Kleckineau said: Have the new mods been deflowered in the mod lounge yet? Ugh. We need better entries than this. And to answer your question, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: Why do you say that, because Thomas got faster or because Flowers got slower? Or is it just because you are a Thomas guy? In some of the tape, you see Flowers sprinting away from DBs. He is not that slow for a FB, and faster, with better hands, than Thomas. Thomas certainly got faster shedding 30 pounds. Anytime a guy is running sub 5.0 at 300+ that's a dancing bear. I am neither a Thomas nor a flowers guy per se but I enjoy watching that footrace and it wouldn't completely surprise me if the bigger man won. people are overrating Flowers and underrating thomas, at least in terms of athletic ability. Flowers can catch though which is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 54 minutes ago, roscoeword said: Speed is overrated for a fullback. I don't think Earl Campbell ran a fast 40, but when you are being chased, you run must faster. (the second part of the sentence, I heard Earl Campbell say to Rickie Williams after Williams was drafted.) Earl Campbell was not a full back and I think he ran 4.5 and he weighed about the same as Flowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Earl Campbell was not a full back and I think he ran 4.5 and he weighed about the same as Flowers. Maybe my favorite all time non-Jet. Dude was FAST and he could run right through you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said: Maybe my favorite all time non-Jet. Dude was FAST and he could run right through you. Freight Train! Strong and Fast!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 41 minutes ago, bitonti said: Anytime a guy is running sub 5.0 at 300+ that's a dancing bear. I never understood how this term came to mean a quick heavyweight. Do bears dance fast in the wild? Cause they’re slow as sh*t at Disneyland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: I never understood how this term came to mean a quick heavyweight. Do bears dance fast in the wild? Cause they’re slow as sh*t at Disneyland. I did not know the answer to your question but it was a good one. Watching tons of OL it's a common term. at first I thought Grateful dead or nutcracker ballet. But actually dancing bears used to be real, hundreds of years ago. They captured bears and trained them to to dance for crowds. It wasn't PETA friendly. the 1843 epic/satirical poem "Atta Troll" refers to a dancing bear who escaped his trainer and ran away. Spoiler alert: it doesn't go well for the bear. https://www.gutenberg.org/files/31305/31305-h/31305-h.htm Also, there are accounts of trained dancing bears as recently in the 1970's in Kathmandu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodeawhodat Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 meh, seems more like a baker mayfield highlight. alot of attention drawn to the qb and this guy gets the step he needs for separation. on most of his routes it is baker threading a needle and perfect ball placement. that split second he has on college level opposition will disappear at this next level. Special teams is his best bet as FB and HB are covered assuming Q is g2g. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 17 hours ago, Greenseed4 said: I never understood how this term came to mean a quick heavyweight. Do bears dance fast in the wild? Cause they’re slow as sh*t at Disneyland. I don't know about dancing, but I had a bear gaining on me on a 4 wheeler one time. Had to gun that sh*t to get outta there. That's a big freakin animal to see coming at you that fast, I had a .45 on me and still was scared sh*bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 People seem to be ceding this guy a roster spot. They put him up against Thomas and say that is it. I think it will come down to how many TEs they keep and which WRs. I am looking at this as more of an H-back/TE slot. Herndon seems to fit that role a bit. Enunwa and Sterling are sort of WR/TE tweeners. As long as they have someone they can put in the backfield to block now and then, I think they will be looking for more versatility. It will also depend on how they do on specials. Whatever FB they keep is going to have to earn his spot on specials. Marion Barber (Jr.) didn't stick around 7 years as a 2nd FB. He stayed because he was a great special teamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 On 5/30/2018 at 2:58 PM, Sperm Edwards said: We have a thread like this every year... Ah, forget it. I was trying to think of a flowers joke about perennials but I've got nothing. Help please. What were King Tuts favorite flower? Chrysanthmummies ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 NFL teams most exciting UDFA signing New York Jets: FB Dimitri Flowers 24 OF 32 Brett Deering/Getty Images Dimitri Flowers could add some zing to the fullback position in New York. The Oklahoma product flashed soft hands out of the backfield with 54 catches for 886 yards and 13 touchdowns through four seasons. He also logged four rushing scores during his senior campaign. The 22-year-old further highlighted his receiving skills when he talked to Randy Lange of the team's official website: "I never dropped a ball in college, and actually I'm tied with DeMarco Murray for receiving touchdowns by a running back at Oklahoma. It's something I've always taken pride in. I don't always get a lot of opportunities, so I have to take advantage of them." A fullback with reliable hands adds another dimension to an offense that may go overlooked during an opponent's film study. Oftentimes, it's a forgotten position outside of leading blocks for ball-carriers. Flowers has the opportunity to cause matchup issues as an occasional pass-catcher who can also take handoffs near the goal line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 On 5/30/2018 at 4:05 PM, 32EBoozer said: Freight Train! Strong and Fast!! If memory serves, the one on top where he head-butts 58 in the chest, he goes on to break another three or so tackles and score a touchdown. The guy was an absolute beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 On 5/30/2018 at 4:09 PM, Greenseed4 said: I never understood how this term came to mean a quick heavyweight. Do bears dance fast in the wild? Cause they’re slow as sh*t at Disneyland. Up here in Maine they can run 25 mph, so you dont want to meet up with one out in the open. Like this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, BUM-KNEE said: Up here in Maine they can run 25 mph, so you dont want to meet up with one out in the open. Like this.... Yeah. But can they dance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Greenseed4 said: Yeah. But can they dance? They usually prefer just waltzing in the bushes, they are old school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 10 hours ago, MaxAF said: What were King Tuts favorite flower? Chrysanthmummies ? Ugh Then again maybe it’s just that I was right, in that the pun potential is there, but the potential for funny using the pun is not lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 10 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: If memory serves, the one on top where he head-butts 58 in the chest, he goes on to break another three or so tackles and score a touchdown. The guy was an absolute beast. And in today's NFL he gets a 15 yard penalty for lowering his helmet like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 On 5/30/2018 at 7:58 PM, Sperm Edwards said: We have a thread like this every year... Ah, forget it. I was trying to think of a flowers joke about perennials but I've got nothing. Help please. Surprised no-one has yet brought up the "legend" of Little John Flowers. Is this guy any relation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 On 5/30/2018 at 7:58 PM, Sperm Edwards said: We have a thread like this every year... Ah, forget it. I was trying to think of a flowers joke about perennials but I've got nothing. Help please. Maybe he'll bloom in Bates' WCO system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFerg726 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 All I know about Flowers is that he was trusted in some of the biggest spots in the Ohio St game and he delivered. He doesn't play a sexy position, but the guy is a gamer who has produced against good competition. I am pulling for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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