CTJetsFan Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I'm not one of them, but here ya go: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2778263-trading-for-teddy-bridgewater-might-be-the-answer-for-qb-needy-teams-this-summer May29, 2018 Seth Wenig/Associated Press Josh McCown is the incumbent starter making the big bucks. Sam Darnold is the team's first top-three draft pick at the quarterback position since it took Joe Namath first overall in 1965. So it was easy to consider Teddy Bridgewater the odd man out on the New York Jets' depth chart entering organized team activities last week. Already, Bridgewater has reminded us not to overlook him or the fact that he was a first-round pick in 2014, the Pepsi NFL Rookie of the Year and a Pro Bowler in 2015. Sure, it's been a couple of years since the Louisville product has completed a regular-season pass in the NFL, but it's important to remember that Bridgewater is only 25 years old. And he's been all the rage thus far at OTAs, according to the New York Daily News' Manish Mehta, who wrote last week: "Bridgewater was the best quarterback on the field on the first day of the Jets' organized team activities, a promising sign for a guy who had a solid start to his career before a mishap in practice nearly cost him that career. He was fluid in his dropbacks without a trace of a limp. He was smooth on a designed rollout to his right on one of his nine snaps in 11-on-11 team drills." And ESPN.com's Rich Cimini reported Sunday that "the organization couldn't be happier with Bridgewater, one of the bright spots in Week 1 of OTA practices." "Not only did he perform well in the first practice, open to the media," Cimini added, "but he maintained it throughout the week." Joe Banner @JoeBanner13 It is just amazing that none of the QB needy teams signed Bridgewater as a 2 who could compete to be a 1. Huge missed opportunity. A number of teams that will regret that. I’m told he has looked outstanding. This will be a different version of Dion Lewis if he stays healthy. If Bridgewater can keep it up, he'll likely become a candidate to start in place of McCown while the team waits on Darnold. But he'd still be relegated to a stopgap role in the best-case scenario because eventually the Jets will give Darnold a chance to take the reins regardless of what his seniors do in 2018. So if he keeps performing well, Bridgewater might become the hottest commodity on the trade market. There's little risk associated with dealing for a high-potential quarterback scheduled to make just $6 million on a one-year contract, which could cause a quarterback-needy team to try hard to obtain Bridgewater's services this offseason. From the Jets' standpoint, they already have their bridge, they already have their future and they're not going to get anything for Bridgewater if he hits free agency at the conclusion of the season. The team signed Bridgewater to a prove-it deal in March, not knowing with certainty that in April they'd land a blue-chip rookie at the same position. Now that Darnold is on the roster, the only way to capitalize on what already appears to be a good investment is to flip Bridgewater to somebody who will value him more as a potential long-term solution under center. That could be a team like the Indianapolis Colts, who haven't seen their franchise quarterback throw a full-sized football in well over a year. What if Andrew Luck's balky throwing shoulder continues to keep him out well into August? It could be a team like the Miami Dolphins, who might be losing hope that Ryan Tannehill will become a bona fide franchise quarterback. Tannehill turns 30 in July, but he's missed the team's last 19 regular-season games because of a recurring knee injury, and he's never been to a Pro Bowl. Could the Dolphins pursue Teddy Bridgewater to replace or compete with Ryan Tannehill?Joel Auerbach/Getty Images It could even be a team like the New England Patriots or New Orleans Saints, who need potential successors for Tom Brady and Drew Brees, respectively, and might be willing to extend Bridgewater's contract in order to keep him on the roster for a few years. Beyond that, Bridgewater could earn the right to be viewed as a better alternative than backups such as: Matt Barkley (Cincinnati Bengals) Cody Kessler (Jacksonville Jaguars) Blaine Gabbert (Tennessee Titans) Paxton Lynch (Denver Broncos) Davis Webb (New York Giants) Colt McCoy (Washington Redskins) Jake Rudock (Detroit Lions) Brett Hundley (Green Bay Packers) Matt Schaub (Atlanta Falcons) Garrett Gilbert (Carolina Panthers) Sean Mannion (Los Angeles Rams) C.J. Beathard (San Francisco 49ers) Austin Davis (Seattle Seahawks) In other words, if the football gods decide to inflict a major injury on Andy Dalton, or Blake Bortles, or Marcus Mariota, or Case Keenum, or Eli Manning, or Alex Smith, or Matthew Stafford, or Aaron Rodgers, or Matt Ryan, or Cam Newton, or Jared Goff, or Jimmy Garoppolo or Russell Wilson, the first call that quarterback's team makes might be to Jets general manager Mike Maccagnan. Last August, the Dolphins, Colts, Panthers and Baltimore Ravens were all without their starting quarterbacks because of injuries. Chances are good at least one team will encounter that fate this summer. And when that happens, Bridgewater's $6 million salary will be enticing. He has a significantly higher ceiling than current free-agent quarterbacks like Matt Moore, Mark Sanchez and Kellen Clemens, and he wouldn't cost much more than any of them. Colin Kaepernick possesses similar potential and might be available for less money, but teams have already made their feelings about him pretty clear. If Kaepernick were in higher demand than Bridgewater, he'd be on a roster right now. Regardless of the reasons why he's not wanted, the fact is that he's not. That makes Bridgewater the most desirable signal-caller who isn't a starter or an heir apparent. Of course, Bridgewater's surgically repaired left knee is the elephant on the practice field at Florham Park. That injury is the sole reason he hasn't started a game since the 2016 preseason. Had Bridgewater's career not been derailed, the Jets likely wouldn't have been able to sign him to such a team-friendly contract. If franchises weren't sure about Bridgewater then, a few strong OTA practices won't be enough to change their minds. He'll have to show them that he can continue to make those throws against live defenses in training camp and the preseason. Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN Jets QB Teddy Bridgewater really is moving around well with his left knee in a sleeve. It's almost like this guy once started for a playoff team or something... https://t.co/UQWR2XiHcm Yours truly wrote in March that Bridgewater could be the biggest steal in free agency if he can get back to where he was before he blew out his knee just days prior to the start of the 2016 season. As I noted then, Bridgewater is only two seasons removed from a campaign in which he completed 65.3 percent of his passes and helped get the Minnesota Vikings to the playoffs. During the final four weeks of that campaign, he ranked sixth among qualified quarterbacks with a 108.5 passer rating. Bridgewater doesn't have a howitzer, but he's a smart, well-disciplined and accurate passer with a knack for delivering in big moments. He excels with the game on the line, and he shines in the red zone. In fact, among quarterbacks with at least 25 red-zone pass attempts in his 2014 rookie season, Bridgewater led the league with a completion percentage of 84.4 inside his opponent's 20-yard line, while his touchdown-to-interception ratio under those circumstances was 9-1. He has his physical limitations, and his knee will always be a concern. But if he continues to come through this offseason, he'll be in high demand later this year when other teams become desperate for an upgrade behind center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Not surprising, if Bridgewater stays healthy we will have an opportunity to recoup a draft pick that we gave up for Darnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 If he really looks good id be fine with resigning him and keeping him. Mccown is gone after this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Beerfish said: If he really looks good id be fine with resigning him and keeping him. Mccown is gone after this year. I tend to agree with this as well. If, and it’s a big if, he looks healthy and strong again give Bridgewater the McCown money next year. Now if someone gets desperate due to injury and is willing to offer some premium picks I wouldn’t pass that up. But I’m not dealing him for 3rd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Teddy will turn into a late one for us if he can stay healthy and play well till week 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTL Jet Fan Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I know we need to recoup some draft picks and he will cost us some money against the cap, but I wouldn't want to trade him. If Teddy picks up and executes Bates system well and plays like a FQB I would be against trading him. I am obviously hoping that Sam ends up better than anybody we have on our roster now or ever did, but that is a complete unknown at this point. We have been without a top QB for sometime now and I don't want to give one away until we know if Sam is the guy. We have missed on too many quarterbacks to let a possible FQB walk out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, Beerfish said: If he really looks good id be fine with resigning him and keeping him. McCown is gone after this year. I love Teddy and his ,so far, great comeback story. If he returns to his pre injury form ,outside of this year, he has no place on the Jets. Darnold will be the QB next year and I can't see Teddy signing here as a #2 if he returns to form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 The team that should be monitoring the Jets QB situation is the Jaguars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 42 minutes ago, CTJetsFan said: Now that Darnold is on the roster, the only way to capitalize on what already appears to be a good investment is to flip Bridgewater to somebody who will value him more as a potential long-term solution under center. That could be a team like the Indianapolis Colts, who haven't seen their franchise quarterback throw a full-sized football in well over a year. What if Andrew Luck's balky throwing shoulder continues to keep him out well into August? Hmm, wouldn't mind flipping Teddy for that 2nd rounder we gave up in next years draft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 minute ago, TeddEY said: The team that should be monitoring the Jets QB situation is the Jaguars. Like going to Payless shoes everyday till those sweet Doc Siders go on clearance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I don't know. I can't see a huge market for him outside of maybe the Jags, Chargers and Colts. And i'd still be hesitant to let go of a young QB who's actually showing he can play at a high level after all these years of nothing. But hey that's all you need, is one team. And especially their buddies in Indy. If they see Luck is just not coming back anytime soon, could make for a good deal on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TnT Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Scenario: Teddy starts, Teddy plays well, Darnold proves by mid/late season he can start and play well. End of season Teddy walks and signs somewhere he gets handed a starting job. Starts all 16 games, plays well. Anyone have an “idea” what we would be looking at comp pick wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 It depends. Is the team actually willing to go with Bridgewater and trade Darnold if he’s lighting it up, showing off veteran savvy and the newly increased arm strength he first showed off to the Vikes in November? They should, instead of putting thumbs and feet and the entire weightroom of equipment on once side of the scale. The goal should be winning a SB behind a QB capable enough to get us there, rather than pigeonholing itself into being Darnold-or-bust beyond Halloween 2018. It’d of course be better if it was Darnold, who’s locked in for the upcoming 4 years at $8m/year, is younger, innately has more going for him physically, and has no devastating knee injuries in his recent history. I think that attraction of Darnold panning out puts any non-Darnold futures out of their minds, so they might as well get the most they can when his value goes up over the summer. Unfortunately, often that timing is only available in hindsight, because it’s only obvious when you’ve already held on for too long but then another team unexpectedly comes in to the rescue (Sheldon for us last year, Bradford for Philadelphia the year before, etc.). At that point there’s no wondering if you should hold on a bit longer; you thank football gods for correcting your error and laugh your way to the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: I love Teddy and his ,so far, great comeback story. If he returns to his pre injury form ,outside of this year, he has no place on the Jets. Darnold will be the QB next year and I can't see Teddy signing here as a #2 if he returns to form. nick foles had no place on the eagles. kirk cousins had no place on the redskins. We re going to have 100 mill to spend, unless someone offers us a huge return makes sense to keep him imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I want Bridgewater to be the starter this season . Darnold in 2019Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 It would be great to keep Bridgewater in the fold beyond 2018 but I think if he impresses enough, his peak value to the Jets is as a trade chip. McCown seems to be entrenched as the starter until Darnold is ready, so I don't see how Bridgewater gets any legit playing time in 2018 barring an injury. I'm sure if he remains healthy throughout the season, he will want to pursue a stating job in 2019, and the Jets can't offer him that so he will be gone. Trading him in season seems like the only outcome that will benefit the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, CTJetsFan said: From the Jets' standpoint, they already have their bridge, they already have their future and they're not going to get anything for Bridgewater if he hits free agency at the conclusion of the season. The team signed Bridgewater to a prove-it deal in March, not knowing with certainty that in April they'd land a blue-chip rookie at the same position. Now that Darnold is on the roster, the only way to capitalize on what already appears to be a good investment is to flip Bridgewater to somebody who will value him more as a potential long-term solution under center. This is the thing. The Jets aren't getting anything for Bridgewater if he lasts the season, and I can't imagine a scenario outside of Bridgewater not playing well enough to land a starting job elsewhere where he resigns with the Jets. The other scenario would be Darnold kinda sucking and the Jets tagging him, but I don't see that one happening, either. You don't think the Jets tried to tack on a second-year, or a second-year option? Of course they did and, of course, Teddy and his camp refused. He's on a prove-it deal, and it's his intention to prove it and land a starting job in 2019. There's no room on this team for him with Darnold on the roster. 1 hour ago, CTJetsFan said: Bridgewater doesn't have a howitzer, but he's a smart, well-disciplined and accurate passer with a knack for delivering in big moments. He excels with the game on the line, and he shines in the red zone. In fact, among quarterbacks with at least 25 red-zone pass attempts in his 2014 rookie season, Bridgewater led the league with a completion percentage of 84.4 inside his opponent's 20-yard line, while his touchdown-to-interception ratio under those circumstances was 9-1. He has his physical limitations, and his knee will always be a concern. But if he continues to come through this offseason, he'll be in high demand later this year when other teams become desperate for an upgrade behind center. 1 And this is the other thing. He's got a lot of fine qualities, but he's always going to be limited. He doesn't have near the ceiling of a Sam Darnold. His ceiling is Alex Smith; a game manager who can win you some games but who you'll always be looking to upgrade. And with the knee, maybe his ceiling has already dropped towards Chad Pennington levels. If Darnold's the starter week one, Bridgewater is immediately expendable. If they see Darnold getting the nod before week six, they can start Bridgewater the first month or so of the season to boost his trade value further, then move him. However, if yesterday's practice is any indication, Bridgewater appears to be third when it comes to working with the starters. Bottom line, if you can get any sort of decent return for Bridgewater this year, you take it and say thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Remember for a DT we weren't going to re-sign (Richardson) we were able to get a solid WR and a low #2. Imagine what we could get for a 25 year old QB who has proven he's recovered from his injury and is playing well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 This is no surprise. Pretty much every media outlet that reported on the signing has commented that the Jets are interested in flipping Bridgewater for an asset. By far the best case scenario for the Jets is that Darnold and Bridgewater both look great in the preseason, enabling them to flip Bridgewater to get their 2019 2nd back while starting Darnold with confidence. McCown is then the vet backup for the year before retiring (or transitioning into a coaching role) and they pick up a new backup for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 The Jets should always be listening to offers and only deal him if someone is willing to overpay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, KRL said: Not surprising, if Bridgewater stays healthy we will have an opportunity to recoup a draft pick that we gave up for Darnold What's more important to you: 1. Quality play from the QB position 2. A 5th or 6th Round Draft Pick in the 2019 Draft Personally, I think it's quality QB play. Today we have an old man JAG who loses 66%+ of the games he plays in McCown. He's an expensive on-field Coach and dick-holder for Darnold, not a QB. We have Darnold. A great prospect.....who has never taken a snap in anger at the NFL level. He's a 100% unknown at the pro level, and anyone who says otherwise is projection their homerism. And we have Teddy Broke-Knee Bridgewater. A guy whose career was headed upwards, but wasn't great by any stretch and was materially carried by a strong roster, an a HOF RB. Me? If Teddy plays great, he starts over McCown and holds the job till Darnold EARNS unseating him. No handouts to Darnold, no rushing him it for PR reasons to save Macc's or Bowles ass. I don't see anyone giving a legit pick for him, and I value QB depth far more than a 5th round pick. Someone offers a 1st, maybe even a 2nd, sure, you consider it, maybe. Till you see what we tend to take in the 2nd..... One of the worst teams in the NFL at QB cannot afford the luxury of trading away QB's who are playing well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Warfish said: What's more important to you: 1. Quality play from the QB position 2. A 5th or 6th Round Draft Pick in the 2019 Draft Personally, I think it's quality QB play. Today we have an old man JAG who loses 66%+ of the games he plays in McCown. He's an expensive on-field Coach and dick-holder for Darnold, not a QB. We have Darnold. A great prospect.....who has never taken a snap in anger at the NFL level. He's a 100% unknown at the pro level, and anyone who says otherwise is projection their homerism. And we have Teddy Broke-Knee Bridgewater. A guy whose career was headed upwards, but wasn't great by any stretch and was materially carried by a strong roster, an a HOF RB. Me? If Teddy plays great, he starts over McCown and holds the job till Darnold EARNS unseating him. No handouts to Darnold, no rushing him it for PR reasons to save Macc's or Bowles ass. I don't see anyone giving a legit pick for him, and I value QB depth far more than a 5th round pick. Someone offers a 1st, maybe even a 2nd, sure, you consider it, maybe. Till you see what we tend to take in the 2nd..... One of the worst teams in the NFL at QB cannot afford the luxury of trading away QB's who are playing well. That's not a question, I'm not dealing Bridgewater for a 5th or 6th round pick. A #2 or a low #1 changes the story entirely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, KRL said: That's not a question, I'm not dealing Bridgewater for a 5th or 6th round pick. A #2 or a low #1 changes the story entirely I see no real world scenario where you're getting that kind of value for this kind of player, no matter how "great" he may look in camp or even in preseason. And if he looks THAT great.....f'sake why would we TRADE him instead of starting him and giving Kiddie Darnold time to season on the bench with his Football Daddy McCown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Unless Darnold sh*ts the bed, he will be starting at some point this season. Bridgewater has no path to starting here so getting any kind of pick for him in trade will be a plus for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Warfish said: I see no real world scenario where you're getting that kind of value for this kind of player, no matter how "great" he may look in camp or even in preseason. And if he looks THAT great.....f'sake why would we TRADE him instead of starting him and giving Kiddie Darnold time to season on the bench with his Football Daddy McCown? If someone loses their starter in the preseason, or their starter looks like dog crap, a second-rounder for a former two-year starter capable of completing 65% of his passes is probably a reasonable expectation. Bridgewater wouldn't even have to look "great," he'd just have to look healthy and competent. And you trade him because there's no way he's going to be on the team next year, and if he leaves as a free agent you'll have spent over $6M in cap space while getting nothing in return for him. Trade him and you get that pick and $6M+ more to spend next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonehands Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 There are only 30 starting jobs in the league. I don't think it is unrealistic to think that Bridgewater could see a long term advantage to being on a team that is developing a 20 year old guy as a starter and plays an offense that takes advantage of his talents. I say we keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphtrilogy Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 All it takes is one desparate team to cough up a #2... we know the league is loaded with panicked GM's on the hot seat to win now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 IF, the Jets really believe the future is with Dnarold, then we should maximize Bridgewater's playing time (obviously if healthy). No point in playing McCown if Bridgewater is looking that good in the pre-season. We could get a #1 depending on how Teddy looks throughout the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Beerfish said: If he really looks good id be fine with resigning him and keeping him. Mccown is gone after this year. I wholeheartedly agree. Why would a franchise that has been QB starved forever just trade away a really good QB, health permitting of course? Sign him, keep him and let the best QB who is not 40 years old play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, slats said: If someone loses their starter in the preseason, or their starter looks like dog crap, a second-rounder for a former two-year starter capable of completing 65% of his passes is probably a reasonable expectation. Bridgewater wouldn't even have to look "great," he'd just have to look healthy and competent. And you trade him because there's no way he's going to be on the team next year, and if he leaves as a free agent you'll have spent over $6M in cap space while getting nothing in return for him. Trade him and you get that pick and $6M+ more to spend next year. You do not trade QB assets when you're the amongst the worst team for the longest period of time at QB in the NFL. Period, end of story. Again, no one in this league is giving us a 2nd (i.e. a Hackenberg, a Devin Smith, a Jace Amaro, a Geno Smith I should remind you folks who see a 2nd as gold plated greatness) for Teddy Bridgewater. If he was that desired, someone would have given him more than 500k to sign as they're backup this past offseason. And the odds that a great QB is going down in Camp for long enough to warrant such a needed trade, is minimal. And that team has their own backups (often draft picks they like) and other veterans to choose from. Seriously, give the "oh we're totally getting a high 1st for Teddy!" homerism a break please. Fantasy Football forum is -----> Quality play at QB to help us win games in 2018 is worth 6 million in cap space. We have plenty to spare and a GM who fails to spend it, I think we'll be ok. It's better than rushing Diapers Darnold into the #1 spot to appease stupid fans before he's earned it, before he's ready. And it's materially better than playing the 66% Loser "Coach" McCown. McCown can do his Darnold-dick-holding job on the sidelines just as well. We can win games now AND work for our future. Again, presuming this flash of Teddy is more than just a flash, of course. If it's not, this entire thread is mooter than moot. If Teddy turns out to really be good again, we get first shot at resigning him, and eliminating the "he's not on our team" complaint. Darnold is cheap as chips cap wise, the only pressure to play him is in fans heads. If Darnold IS ready and better, we're in the best spot, we can resign Teddy if we want, or not, and start Darnold. Our choice. I refuse to join the loser contingent round here in their perenial acceptance of losing 10 games this year for some magic future where those losses = a Super Bowl. Try and win now AND build/develop for tomorrow. And the best way to do that is play the best players now, and make players earn their starting jobs, not give them handouts and trade away players playing better than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: If he really looks good id be fine with resigning him and keeping him. Mccown is gone after this year. If he really looks good, we won't have that option. Why would he sign another deal here to be the guy holding the spot for Darnold instead of going somewhere as the long-term starter? If he really looks good, he'll have that opportunity somewhere (NYG? SD? TB? NO? NE? CIN? BAL? MIA?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, Warfish said: What's more important to you: 1. Quality play from the QB position 2. A 5th or 6th Round Draft Pick in the 2019 Draft Personally, I think it's quality QB play. 5 minutes ago, Warfish said: Seriously, give the "oh we're totally getting a high 1st for Teddy!" homerism a break please. Fantasy Football forum is -----> 2 Why is it that you always feel the need to exaggerate other people's points when trying to make your own? No one is talking about accepting a fifth or sixth round pick for him, and no one is fantasizing about getting a high first round pick for him. A second is a reasonable expectation, and even a third would be something better than nothing - which is what they'll get if Teddy leaves the team as a free agent next year. Which he certainly would do. This is not a playoff team this year. This is a building block season for the future. Teddy has no future here. If Darnold looks like he can be the guy and you can trade Teddy for a future asset, you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Depends how good he looks, what the offer is, and if they want to max out his value or just take something solid if they can get it. Say he's the best QB, plays all season, plays well, and stay healthy. They can franchise him and his value will absolutely be higher than it would be before this season when all of that is an unknown. Then obviously a tough decision between the known commodity and Darnold - but there are avenues to get something after this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, Warfish said: What's more important to you: 1. Quality play from the QB position 2. A 5th or 6th Round Draft Pick in the 2019 Draft Personally, I think it's quality QB play. Today we have an old man JAG who loses 66%+ of the games he plays in McCown. He's an expensive on-field Coach and dick-holder for Darnold, not a QB. We have Darnold. A great prospect.....who has never taken a snap in anger at the NFL level. He's a 100% unknown at the pro level, and anyone who says otherwise is projection their homerism. And we have Teddy Broke-Knee Bridgewater. A guy whose career was headed upwards, but wasn't great by any stretch and was materially carried by a strong roster, an a HOF RB. Me? If Teddy plays great, he starts over McCown and holds the job till Darnold EARNS unseating him. No handouts to Darnold, no rushing him it for PR reasons to save Macc's or Bowles ass. I don't see anyone giving a legit pick for him, and I value QB depth far more than a 5th round pick. Someone offers a 1st, maybe even a 2nd, sure, you consider it, maybe. Till you see what we tend to take in the 2nd..... One of the worst teams in the NFL at QB cannot afford the luxury of trading away QB's who are playing well. What makes you think Bridgewater is only worth a 5th or 6th rounder? Sam Bradford was meddling in mediocrity and netted a 1st and 4th rounder, and his injury history included two torn ACLs and a torn throwing shoulder. He'd also been concussed and had ankle injuries, to boot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, TnT said: Scenario: Teddy starts, Teddy plays well, Darnold proves by mid/late season he can start and play well. End of season Teddy walks and signs somewhere he gets handed a starting job. Starts all 16 games, plays well. Anyone have an “idea” what we would be looking at comp pick wise? 2 Jet's are likely to be big spenders in the FA market, so little to nothing in the way of a comp pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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