Doggin94it Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Saw this in a longer article over at NorthJersey.com (which mostly recaps info we've seen elsewhere), and thought it was meaningful: Quote As individual drills came to an end on Tuesday, Darnold shook his head after throwing a poor pass over the middle of the field. The rotation was about to come to an end before the 20-year-old rookie fixed his mistake. But McCown, 38, immediately gave up his spot and told Darnold to take the rep again. Before Darnold made his next throw, McCown also gave him a tip on his footwork so he wouldn't make the same mistake twice. Full article is here https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/nfl/jets/2018/05/30/jets-otas-week-2-takeaways-sam-darnold-robby-anderson-jamal-adams-teddy-bridgewater/653762002/ These are the types of little things that you absolutely want a bridge-QB doing for your highly touted rookie. No chance Roethlisberger does something like that for Rudolph, and I highly doubt Bradford does it for Rosen. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers became Aaron Rodgers without any help from Favre, and if Darnold is going to be great he could probably do it without a "mentor QB" - but just because something isn't necessary doesn't mean it's not beneficial. Snark away, but that type of approach from McCown will be a very good thing for the Jets going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isired Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 If Darnold becomes our FQB and McCown has a hand in that, hire that guy for life. QB coach, special assistant, some no-show job turning on the lights, I don't care. That's awesome, love to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I knew this would happen. McCown is so lazy. 10 million and he is sitting out practice reps. Unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 That's just awesome to read. Never thought i'd say it but i'm very glad McCown is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 This make Larz happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 McCown has taken a beating from posters here. Some even insisting on referring to him as McClown, which is ridiculous and juvenile. But all the guy has done has been asset to the franchise both on and off the field. He's earned our respect and we're lucky to have him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Good catch but let's be real, McCown is just starting his next job (2019 Jet QB coach) a little early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: McCown has taken a beating from posters here. Some even insisting on referring to him as McClown, which is ridiculous and juvenile. But all the guy has done has been asset to the franchise both on and off the field. He's earned our respect and we're lucky to have him. Mccown is the absolute perfect QB for this team. He needs little, to no, practice to be game ready week 1 and isn't insecure about his role. He has no problem helping Darnold become the franchise QB but is also ready to start game 1 if Darnold or Teddy aren't ready. Worth ever dollar he is due to make this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 42 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: McCown has taken a beating from posters here. Some even insisting on referring to him as McClown, which is ridiculous and juvenile. But all the guy has done has been asset to the franchise both on and off the field. He's earned our respect and we're lucky to have him. As a starting QB he is McClown. He is just not very good, and holds the franchise back. He is a slightly better version of Fitzpatrick. He has no business starting for the Jets last year and absolutely none this year. However as a teammate, mentor, locker room guy he is light years ahead of the selfish franchise wrecker Fitzpatrick is and just Josh. If he is our #2 QB this year he will be McCown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, KRL said: Good catch but let's be real, McCown is just starting his next job (2019 Jet QB coach) a little early If they were certain Bridgewater’s knee was fine when free agency started, they would have only offered the QB Coach job to McCown. But McCown was always signed this year as the Jets were facing the unknown with Bridgewater’s knee and how the draft would play out. McCown is the safety net starter / QB Coach. McCown’s job is to coach and mentor. He’s only seeing the field if Bridgewater’s knee gives out...or if Bridgewater is traded and Darnold’s not ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 A guy who makes 10M in 2018 is not going to work just as hard, if not harder, in 2019 to make 100K. Josh McCown is going to play again for millions of dollars, or sit back and enjoy his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, TeddEY said: A guy who makes 10M in 2018 is not going to work just as hard, if not harder, in 2019 to make 100K. Josh McCown is going to play again for millions of dollars, or sit back and enjoy his family. Yeah, I'd expect him back next year as the Jets backup for @ $6M or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 McCown is a universally beloved good dude and a credit to the uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isired Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 As a starting QB he is McClown. He is just not very good, and holds the franchise back. He is a slightly better version of Fitzpatrick. He has no business starting for the Jets last year and absolutely none this year. However as a teammate, mentor, locker room guy he is light years ahead of the selfish franchise wrecker Fitzpatrick is and just Josh. If he is our #2 QB this year he will be McCown. Maybe for some of the other franchises he's played for, but certainly not for the Jets. Were you watching last year?I was against bringing him in last year, thought he was horrible and the young guys had nothing to learn from him - I was basing it on his record of bringing his teams top draft picks. I was wrong, he played well, and looks like he'll be a very good mentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 hours ago, KRL said: Good catch but let's be real, McCown is just starting his next job (2019 Jet QB coach) a little early And he is making an extra 9.8 million for it lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 38 minutes ago, T0mShane said: McCown is a universally beloved good dude and a credit to the uniform. You are so sexy when you are sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Doggin94it said: Saw this in a longer article over at NorthJersey.com (which mostly recaps info we've seen elsewhere), and thought it was meaningful: Full article is here https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/nfl/jets/2018/05/30/jets-otas-week-2-takeaways-sam-darnold-robby-anderson-jamal-adams-teddy-bridgewater/653762002/ These are the types of little things that you absolutely want a bridge-QB doing for your highly touted rookie. No chance Roethlisberger does something like that for Rudolph, and I highly doubt Bradford does it for Rosen. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers became Aaron Rodgers without any help from Favre, and if Darnold is going to be great he could probably do it without a "mentor QB" - but just because something isn't necessary doesn't mean it's not beneficial. Snark away, but that type of approach from McCown will be a very good thing for the Jets going forward. I agree. Trade Teddy for a first or second if he proves he can play to whatever contender loses their QB after weeik 8 and bring mcCown back on the cheap next year to help Sam become the man. Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Doggin94it said: Saw this in a longer article over at NorthJersey.com (which mostly recaps info we've seen elsewhere), and thought it was meaningful: Full article is here https://www.northjersey.com/story/sports/nfl/jets/2018/05/30/jets-otas-week-2-takeaways-sam-darnold-robby-anderson-jamal-adams-teddy-bridgewater/653762002/ These are the types of little things that you absolutely want a bridge-QB doing for your highly touted rookie. No chance Roethlisberger does something like that for Rudolph, and I highly doubt Bradford does it for Rosen. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers became Aaron Rodgers without any help from Favre, and if Darnold is going to be great he could probably do it without a "mentor QB" - but just because something isn't necessary doesn't mean it's not beneficial. Snark away, but that type of approach from McCown will be a very good thing for the Jets going forward. i wish if Teddy is fine we can get McCown to retire and become QB Advisor for a few million bucks a year. Save a lot on the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman10023 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 49 minutes ago, isired said: Maybe for some of the other franchises he's played for, but certainly not for the Jets. Were you watching last year? I was against bringing him in last year, thought he was horrible and the young guys had nothing to learn from him - I was basing it on his record of bringing his teams top draft picks. I was wrong, he played well, and looks like he'll be a very good mentor. we brought him in so we could suck for sam. his track record of getting teams top picks is quite good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Good nugget, thanks for posting. McCown is about as good of a bridge QB as you're going to have. Really hard to complain about bringing him back, no matter what some might say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isired Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 we brought him in so we could suck for sam. his track record of getting teams top picks is quite good.Yep. But still you'll hear Jets fans argue that it was a bad move because we would have had the 1 or 2 pick if we let Petty and Hack handle things.He was supposed to be bad, he was good. Better than the opposite, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Chad FitzCown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, TeddEY said: A guy who makes 10M in 2018 is not going to work just as hard, if not harder, in 2019 to make 100K. Josh McCown is going to play again for millions of dollars, or sit back and enjoy his family. 1 hour ago, slats said: Yeah, I'd expect him back next year as the Jets backup for @ $6M or so. Agree with you both, and if Darnold has success this year and anyone believes McCown had a hand in it at all, there will be a market for him too beyond even the Jets. While some may dismiss the idea of the presence of the veteran QB for the young guys, there are plenty of teams who have been shown to agree with it in the past. Look at a guy like Hasselbeck, who spent the last 5 years of his career doing that. While McCown does seem like the kind of guy who would one day become interested in pursuing a coaching career, he has little incentive to be in a big rush to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 5 hours ago, Doggin94it said: Yeah, Aaron Rodgers became Aaron Rodgers without any help from Favre, and if Darnold is going to be great he could probably do it without a "mentor QB" - but just because something isn't necessary doesn't mean it's not beneficial. This, this thisity THIS. Sammy D. will survive on his own merits at the end of the day. But McCown is here to make Darnold's transition smoother (and maybe start in his place for a while) and there is no downside to his presence whatsoever. Its nice to have this as an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 9 hours ago, Doggin94it said: These are the types of little things that you absolutely want a bridge-QB doing for your highly touted rookie. No. These are things you want your coordinator and coach doing. The fact that McCown is doing it makes a great story, and certainly feeds the myth of the mentor-bridge guy... but this is coaching. Our coaches should be doing this sh*t. I’m thankful for McCown, I think he’ll be a good coach eventually. I hope his over-compensation for coaches is out of desire, not out of necessity because the coaches are slackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Yea @Doggin94it! A good (and smart) gesture by McCown is a referendum on the coaching staff because really, Bates and Bowles should be the ones giving up their OTA reps to Darnold; not the McClown! Cmon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Darnold has walked into the best possible situation for his development as an NFL QB. Lets hope that the mentoring plus his natural skills translate into a legitimate franchise QB. These words are tough to utter as a long time Jets fan, but I'm "cautiously optimistic." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Heartwarming. Really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 It’s a lovely story and it made me think of some John Mayer songs, but couldn’t a coach have done the same thing without us having to waste a roster spot and $10 million for a player to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isired Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 It’s a lovely story and it made me think of some John Mayer songs, but couldn’t a coach have done the same thing without us having to waste a roster spot and $10 million for a player to do this?You want a coach to start the season opener? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isired Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 But seriously, yeah, a coach could have stepped in and said "[QBx], you hold up, Sam's going to take another rep here. Sam, try to [advice on footwork] this time" But the fact that McCown did it, without being forced to, is a sign that we've got the right 'QB who will probably start the season but might not because the QB coming off devastating injury is ready or because the rookie QB is ready but might start some eventually anyway and if not it's OK because either way he's gonna help the rook and oh yeah we've already seen he doesn't need many reps at all to be ready'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 hours ago, isired said: 4 hours ago, RutgersJetFan said: It’s a lovely story and it made me think of some John Mayer songs, but couldn’t a coach have done the same thing without us having to waste a roster spot and $10 million for a player to do this? You want a coach to start the season opener? No way. I don’t want Todd Bowles staring. But I will settle for a qb Who has a QBR of 94.5 last yr ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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