Pointdexter Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 The answer is yes. My guess is Bridgewater is traded before next draft and McCown retires/moves on. While Darnold looks to be the real deal, you don't put all your eggs into one basket. And you need depth. I think a 3rd or 4th rd QB next year makes a lot of sense. Any early favorites, Jetnation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 We don’t have a second at the present time so I don’t see Us doing that in the 3rd or 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 No way. The Jets can address the backup QB situation via free agency. No need to waste ANY pick on this in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just now, ChuckkieB said: No way. The Jets can address the backup QB situation via free agency. No need to waste ANY pick on this in 2019. There’s always serviceable backups available for cheap money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Would like to get a bit through the 2018 season before dealing with hypotheticals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: The answer is yes. My guess is Bridgewater is traded before next draft and McCown retires/moves on. While Darnold looks to be the real deal, you don't put all your eggs into one basket. And you need depth. I think a 3rd or 4th rd QB next year makes a lot of sense. Any early favorites, Jetnation? Someone will have to be the #2 (and #3) QB in the "ideal world" where Darnold is the entrenched and successful #1 QB by the 2019 season. How they acquire them is a side-issue to the fact that one (and likely two) QB's will have to acquired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 We can draft another QB, in the 6th round, in about 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Can probably get a good backup in FA. Unless they love a long term/developmental guy in the 5th or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Jets fan Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 All draft picks need to be used for players thT will help the franchise QB succeed. Even if it is too make the D better so he does not always have to play catch up. No picks should be used “in case” he is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointdexter Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Wow, so we're all good in the developmental QB dept? No need to have any young QBs on the roster in case Darnold gets hurt or fails to pan out? Just sign some more castoff-journeymen to be the back up and we're all set. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Pointdexter said: Wow, so we're all good in the developmental QB dept? No need to have any young QBs on the roster in case Darnold gets hurt or fails to pan out? Just sign some more castoff-journeymen to be the back up and we're all set. Brilliant. Wouldn't you rather take a player to help the QB we just took with that 3rd or 4th round pick? And not draft his back up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 In what world do you decide what position to pick a full year in advance? The GM is a best player available. guy. If a QB is the best available, you take him. As Roseman said, QBs are a commodity. You can get something back, if you made the right choice. OTOH, the idea that we should sit there with no 2nd and say WE MUST TAKE A !B in the 3rd or 4th is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 We need Bridgewater to blow up this year, win the starting QB job, and transition tag him & make a deal for some picks. We have the money. Be nice to get that #2 pick back & maybe a #4. It looks like for the forseeable future most teams are set now at QB. The team that might need a QB soon are the Chargers, Rivers isn't getting any younger, has a brood at home & might want to just be a Daddy soon. Miami too, but of course your trading a commodity within your own division. You have to have Belichick Balls to pull that off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jetster said: We need Bridgewater to blow up this year, win the starting QB job, and transition tag him & make a deal for some picks. We have the money. Be nice to get that #2 pick back & maybe a #4. It looks like for the forseeable future most teams are set now at QB. The team that might need a QB soon are the Chargers, Rivers isn't getting any younger, has a brood at home & might want to just be a Daddy soon. Miami too, but of course your trading a commodity within your own division. You have to have Belichick Balls to pull that off. Do you know what the meaning of transition tag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Pointdexter said: The answer is yes. My guess is Bridgewater is traded before next draft and McCown retires/moves on. While Darnold looks to be the real deal, you don't put all your eggs into one basket. And you need depth. I think a 3rd or 4th rd QB next year makes a lot of sense. Any early favorites, Jetnation? We need help at a lot of positions. Unless Darnold is a Hackenberg-scale failure or suffers a career-ending injury, we should use our picks on OL, LB, etc. For the near future, you can find a back-up in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Wouldn't you rather take a player to help the QB we just took with that 3rd or 4th round pick? And not draft his back up? Next Year's QB Roster Before FA/Draft: 1. Sam Darnold 2. Empty 3. Empty 2. and 3. will have to be filled no matter how much folks say "only players that help Darnold win". So the question is 'veteran JAG backup' or 'draft pick backup' or both. Not if, but who and how. I don't think anyone is asking for a 1st round pick to be used on a #2 QB here or some equal-prospect to Darnold to be brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 If a guy they really like "falls" to them in the later rounds I don't think it's crazy. But this team still has enough pressing needs that I think you sign your backup in FA and continue to address the offense in the draft where possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 41 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Do you know what the meaning of transition tag? No explain it to me genius & explain to me why we could use it to gain a draft pick in a trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jetster said: No explain it to me genius & explain to me why we could use it to gain a draft pick in a trade? Perhaps you should do some research before breaking out the sarcasm. You don't even need to do research. Just look at wikipedia: If another club offers a contract to a transitioned player, his original club has seven days to decide whether to match that offer or not. If the original club agrees to match, the player is forced to sign with the original club at the terms agreed to in the offer by the other club. If the original club declines to match, the player signs with the other team, and the original team is offered no compensation, as they would be if the player had received the franchise tag. I can't explain how you can use it to gain a draft pick because the transition tag simply allows a team to match any offer a player might sign in free agency. Can you? You are thinking of the non-exclusive franchise tag. That number will be higher than the transition tag, and I have posted numerous times, it will be too high for the Jets to use on Bridgewater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 38 minutes ago, Warfish said: Next Year's QB Roster Before FA/Draft: 1. Sam Darnold 2. Empty 3. Empty 2. and 3. will have to be filled no matter how much folks say "only players that help Darnold win". So the question is 'veteran JAG backup' or 'draft pick backup' or both. Not if, but who and how. I don't think anyone is asking for a 1st round pick to be used on a #2 QB here or some equal-prospect to Darnold to be brought in. Exactly, you're looking for a back up. You can find those in free agency, or trade for one with a 5th or 6th round pick. You don't need to spend a 3rd or 4th the year after, especially with no 2nd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: Do you know what the meaning of transition tag? It's the tag you use when you transition something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 2 hours ago, The Crusher said: We don’t have a second at the present time so I don’t see Us doing that in the 3rd or 4th. unless this.. ... guy is till on the board in the second ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 All of our picks need to be used to support Darnold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleDown Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 No set rule one way or the other. Evaluate the free agent quarterbacks and the draft prospects next year. If/when you see a good value, pull the trigger. Darnold is the only quarterback under contract after this season. The Jets will need to draft, sign, and/or resign two quarterbacks in 2019. The draft can certainly be a part of that solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: All of our picks need to be used to support Darnold BPA.. cheers ~ ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Interesting: Before drafting Darnold, we were told you should draft a QB every year until you find one. Now, we have Darnold, and NO WAY do you draft another QB. Listen, if a guy like Dak Prescott fell next year into the 4th round, you take him. You let him sit and learn. QB's are ALWAYS needed, and are always great bargaining chips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 35 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Perhaps you should do some research before breaking out the sarcasm. You don't even need to do research. Just look at wikipedia: If another club offers a contract to a transitioned player, his original club has seven days to decide whether to match that offer or not. If the original club agrees to match, the player is forced to sign with the original club at the terms agreed to in the offer by the other club. If the original club declines to match, the player signs with the other team, and the original team is offered no compensation, as they would be if the player had received the franchise tag. I can't explain how you can use it to gain a draft pick because the transition tag simply allows a team to match any offer a player might sign in free agency. Can you? You are thinking of the non-exclusive franchise tag. That number will be higher than the transition tag, and I have posted numerous times, it will be too high for the Jets to use on Bridgewater. Then why do we hear "2nd round tender" being used sometimes? Did they change the transition tag at some point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Jetster said: Then why do we hear "2nd round tender" being used sometimes? Did they change the transition tag at some point? http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000785958/article/what-to-know-about-nfl-franchise-tag-designations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 31 minutes ago, The Crusher said: It's the tag you use when you transition something. Oh the possibilities for mayhem this line could inspire are endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jetster said: Then why do we hear "2nd round tender" being used sometimes? Did they change the transition tag at some point? I think the only changes to the transition tag were to make it guaranteed and to make "poison pills" illegal. Neither relate to what you are talking about. 2nd round tender refers to restricted free agents. Bridgewater will not be a restricted free agent, An RFA has 3 accrued seasons. Bridgewater was already deemed unrestricted this year, though it was in doubt for a bit based on the games he missed due to injury. NFL restricted free agency: Rules, tender amounts, and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Back on topic. I would love it if Bridgewater blew up and won the job in TC. Just to drive up the cost it would take other teams to get him. Who are we kidding though? It's the Jets. They would be lucky if they get a 7th rounder for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 42 minutes ago, The Crusher said: It's the tag you use when you transition something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, JetFaninMI said: Back on topic. I would love it if Bridgewater blew up and won the job in TC. Just to drive up the cost it would take other teams to get him. Who are we kidding though? It's the Jets. They would be lucky if they get a 7th rounder for him. I find it hard to believe that if healthy Teddy isn't a better QB than Josh at this point in their careers. McCown was NOT good last year in the short passing arena. Sure, he had a lot of completions but his inaccuracy forced receivers to adjust too much & limited YAC. Teddy is much quicker getting the ball out in the WCO & is very accurate in the short game. McCowns gonna have his hands full holding off a healthy Bridgewater. Teddy is a legitimate QB, unlike Petty & Hackenberg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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