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2 hours ago, southparkcpa said:

I ran 5 miles in DC this morning before my flight home.  Felt fantastic. 

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Nice.  I ran the Queens 10K this weekend with a pretty bad cold that my daughter gave me as a birthday/Father’s Day present.  I looked a bit like you did after.

I was never a real drinker, so no need to quit, but training for long runs makes it kind of obsolete.

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I've gone on the wagon before ... But I have never had a problem drinking and love to drink socially. I probably have the equivelant of a 6 pack every two weeks.

I can't credit those with an addiction being able to kick it... Cheers to you and good luck !

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5 hours ago, NJ said:

And it takes a big person to own stuff like you just did JW. 

I drank for years, my share and a whole bunch of other peoples. I had some good times associated with it but as time went on and the more I drank -  I had less good times and more bad to really bad experiences. As drinking/using to enhance or create a good time or to relieve stress and relax becomes an MO - you covet it strongly and your mind sets up defenses to justify and sustain the behavior. Stevie Ray Vaughn sang about it from first hand knowledge in his song The Wall of Denial and it's simply a fact.

Having been on both sides of the coin and now 24 years clean and sober, I can share from experience how hard it is to look at a life without drinking or using from the partying side and seeing it as anything fun or something I would have wanted to do. I couldn't have been more wrong in my thinking.

Alcoholism and drug addiction flat out ruins lives and unfortunately not just of the afflicted individual, but it ripples out and also ruins many lives of those close. 

Glad to hear JE1 is giving it a shot. As others have shared if drinking/using is bringing negativity into your life - wander into an AA meeting or spend an hour with a qualified therapist. You may end up getting an unexpected gift of a lifetime like I did.

I love hearing from guys who have lived it. Thanks brother. I feel better, my wife is super happy, and I feel "in control" outside of work and dont feel the need to justify grabbing a beer. 

 

I know l'll hit temptation, but Ive been avoiding specific triggers and I explained to my Father (my usual best drinking buddy) whats up and hes all in. Its a common issue in our family, so he gets it. 

Thanks guys. Going on 3 weeks and I feel good about my choice.

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3 hours ago, southparkcpa said:

I ran 5 miles in DC this morning before my flight home.  Felt fantastic. 

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Doing pretty good, old man! LOL. Nice. 

 

I envy you, after knee and ankle surgery, running days are over for this old Grunt.

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9 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Doing pretty good, old man! LOL. Nice. 

 

I envy you, after knee and ankle surgery, running days are over for this old Grunt.

One thing I used to do when I had a bit more time was go to a rock climbing gym.  Less impact on the lower body and a lot of the same benefits.  Plus most gyms are super friendly and welcoming.  Worth checking out if you’re looking for a healthy outlet.

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On 6/16/2018 at 12:10 PM, T0mShane said:

Weed is amazing for my anxiety, but the downside is it puts me right to sleep, usually, so I rarely do it. I also feel like a moron sneaking under the oven vent and stuffing a little glass pipe with rank shrubbery like some degenerate teen, stinking up the entire place like a gross Hookah den. I realize this is vestigial shame borne of Nancy Reagan’s “Just Say No” crap that was burned into my brain as a youth, but it is what it is. When I was in Colorado last year, some dude was using a vape pen that delivered 98% THC, with no odor and almost no smoke. That’s the future right there.

I had the same exact feeling about weed as you. Never liked the feeling of smoking or the side effects (dry eyes, dry mouth, feeling brain dead, etc). However, a few months ago I was introduced to edibles and it's been a game changer for me. I buy the edibles (branded "Grateful Gummies") that are made in California, and they're just fantastic. I sleep way better now and drink way less than I did previously, and get a completely different (better) high than when I smoke.

It's obviously not as social as drinking beer, but if you're looking to relax at the end of the day without having a hangover for the next day or two, it's the way to go. Also, a 30mg gummy (which is roughly two servings/highs for me) is roughly $6 each, so it's way more economical than drinking. I live in Manhattan and can drink $100 of booze in a couple of hours, easy.

I still drink socially, but during the week if I'm home and looking for a relatively guilt-free reprieve, I'm taking an edible for sure.

 

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10 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Doing pretty good, old man! LOL. Nice. 

 

I envy you, after knee and ankle surgery, running days are over for this old Grunt.

 

1 hour ago, TeddEY said:

One thing I used to do when I had a bit more time was go to a rock climbing gym.  Less impact on the lower body and a lot of the same benefits.  Plus most gyms are super friendly and welcoming.  Worth checking out if you’re looking for a healthy outlet.

A weird thing.. my college roommate lives in Rochester and we lost touch. He called me out of the blue last night.   He was always in good shape but drank like the rest of us. He told me he hasn't had a beer in 10 years and he is now 175 pounds with solid muscle and he is almost 59.  But we had a long discussion about why do we as "guys" drink.  

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On 6/10/2018 at 9:09 AM, RutgersJetFan said:

Yup, but weed being legalized (and insanely amazing in 2018) made the switch easy. If I recall correctly though you’re a fireman, so that’s not an option for you. 

Same here. I only drink light beer, and smoke weed errry day. I couldn’t live a sober life but that combo is what works for me. 

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Fell off the wagon yesterday. Feel terrible about it. Did a ton of Yard work in about 100* heat. Neighbor walked over with cold beers and I figured what the heck, I worked my ass off, its hot, and its only a beer..... Woke up feeling like sh*t and my wifes disappointment.  I recognize that it was a slip, a moment of bad judgement, but I need to stay at zero. None. Day 1 on the clock.

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1 hour ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Fell off the wagon yesterday. Feel terrible about it. Did a ton of Yard work in about 100* heat. Neighbor walked over with cold beers and I figured what the heck, I worked my ass off, its hot, and its only a beer..... Woke up feeling like sh*t and my wifes disappointment.  I recognize that it was a slip, a moment of bad judgement, but I need to stay at zero. None. Day 1 on the clock.

Mistakes happen.  Keep moving forward.  You got this.

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Weed isn't legal anywhere, the feds have allowed some states to decriminalize recreational use 

You'll know its legal when pilots and truck drivers can smoke it lol

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8 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Fell off the wagon yesterday. Feel terrible about it. Did a ton of Yard work in about 100* heat. Neighbor walked over with cold beers and I figured what the heck, I worked my ass off, its hot, and its only a beer..... Woke up feeling like sh*t and my wifes disappointment.  I recognize that it was a slip, a moment of bad judgement, but I need to stay at zero. None. Day 1 on the clock.

It's great that you're owning it and committed to the process. I've been in that scenario many a time; putting in a hard day's work and "rewarding" myself with a couple of beers. Thing is, that couple of beers turns into a 12-pack and a rough morning the next day. 

There's a good group of people here and we can help hold each other accountable in situations like this. We're here if you need support or encouragement. Good luck to you. 

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1 hour ago, Bombdirt said:

It's great that you're owning it and committed to the process. I've been in that scenario many a time; putting in a hard day's work and "rewarding" myself with a couple of beers. Thing is, that couple of beers turns into a 12-pack and a rough morning the next day. 

There's a good group of people here and we can help hold each other accountable in situations like this. We're here if you need support or encouragement. Good luck to you. 

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16 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Fell off the wagon yesterday. Feel terrible about it. Did a ton of Yard work in about 100* heat. Neighbor walked over with cold beers and I figured what the heck, I worked my ass off, its hot, and its only a beer..... Woke up feeling like sh*t and my wifes disappointment.  I recognize that it was a slip, a moment of bad judgement, but I need to stay at zero. None. Day 1 on the clock.

Tell your neighbor you are working hard at staying sober. If he is a good guy he will support your choice by not bringing you alchohol.

Addiction is a SOB. There are always experiences and underlying issues in our lives that can cause some of us to self medicate with drugs and alcohol. It is a way of masking, hiding from the uncomfortable emotions. A 12 step program and a good therapist could help you take this to the next level.

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18 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said:

Fell off the wagon yesterday. Feel terrible about it. Did a ton of Yard work in about 100* heat. Neighbor walked over with cold beers and I figured what the heck, I worked my ass off, its hot, and its only a beer..... Woke up feeling like sh*t and my wifes disappointment.  I recognize that it was a slip, a moment of bad judgement, but I need to stay at zero. None. Day 1 on the clock.

Admittedly I have no first-hand or off-hand experience with any of this, but:

(1) if the goal is to stay 100% sober, then as you said, you recognize this was a slip and that it’s going to happen. The key is whether or not you can pick yourself back up and get right back to it.

(2) is the goal to be 100% sober, or is it to become responsible with it? Because if I’m reading this correctly, one beer once every couple of weeks seems perfectly responsible. Sometimes I feel like there’s such a stigma within society that you may feel that you have to go from one extreme to another by trying to stay completely dry, when maybe it’s just about learning moderation? Hope you’re not beating yourself up over just one beer for the first time in 3 weeks!

Either way, best of luck!

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On 6/24/2018 at 12:37 PM, Jet_Engine1 said:

Fell off the wagon yesterday. Feel terrible about it. Did a ton of Yard work in about 100* heat. Neighbor walked over with cold beers and I figured what the heck, I worked my ass off, its hot, and its only a beer..... Woke up feeling like sh*t and my wifes disappointment.  I recognize that it was a slip, a moment of bad judgement, but I need to stay at zero. None. Day 1 on the clock.

Just like in most aspects of sports .. it's a process. Get back up on the horse and ride my brother. 

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13 minutes ago, BUM-KNEE said:

I guess I will add my thoughts/story.

I drank like a fish since I was 17 or so, unfortunately in rural Maine theres not an overabundance to do. I had run ins with the law.................

 

A sincere thank you for sharing that. Be aware you are not alone in your experiences. Very similar psychological traumas are experienced by many of us myself included. 

At an early age I was taught by example that it was ok to drink every day till drunk and to be psychologically and physically abusive to family. It took me quite a few years to realize the damage that was done to all of us. I have come to understand why dad was the way he was. He saw horrible things as a combat vet in WW2 and used booze to self medicate. I have chosen to forgive him. I stopped booze and drugs years ago and have recaptured my life. 2 of my siblings are not as lucky.

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3 minutes ago, Kleckineau said:

A sincere thank you for sharing that. Be aware you are not alone in your experiences. Very similar psychological traumas are experienced by many of us myself included. 

At an early age I was taught by example that it was ok to drink every day till drunk and to be psychologically and physically abusive to family. It took me quite a few years to realize the damage that was done to all of us. I have come to understand why dad was the way he was. He saw horrible things as a combat vet in WW2 and used booze to self medicate. I have chosen to forgive him. I stopped booze and drugs years ago and have recaptured my life. 2 of my siblings are not as lucky.

It was very liberating to get that off my chest actually, and Im glad I did. Its good to have a venue here to talk about stuff like this.

My Dad was a drunk most of my younger years, he was a marine in the Korean War. His Dad was a marine in Japan in WW2, and had trouble dealing with his family till his passing.

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44 minutes ago, BUM-KNEE said:

I guess I will add my thoughts/story.

I drank like a fish since I was 17 or so, unfortunately in rural Maine theres not an overabundance to do. I had run ins with the law, blew out my knee, tore my shoulder up good too along the way. At age 36 I quit cold turkey in 2006, and felt pretty good about things. My health was better thats for sure, along with my wallet. I got my life in order for the most part.

Then in the fall of 2014 my best friend killed himself, and the factory I worked at closed in the spring of 2015, thus ending my job. I thought about drinking heavily, but always talked myself out of it. I went to college for free because of the outsourced job, and was in my first semester of a business administration degree at age 45. Then my wife walked out, having a midlife crisis. 15 years of marriage thrown out the window. Then my father passed away 6 months later. I broke down into a deep depression and started drinking again, slowly picking up the intensity. Last winter I ran head on into a white birch tree on my snowmobile going roughly 70 mph while drinking. I thought I was dead, or at least busted up in good shape. But... I had no broken bones. My sled was nearly folded in half though.

I now wonder how the hell I even made it this far in life. I took so many risks through the years while drinking, stupid risks. So much bad could have happened, and I reflect upon it often.

I have now greatly moderated my booze intake, and feel like I could quit cold turkey again if needed. I slip back down the ladder once in awhile, thinking of my Dad and my effing wife. But..... I wont stop moving forward, and I wont stop trying to have a better life. I graduated college with honors, and was the oldest in my class. I did that for me, to prove a point to myself. I wanted to plant my flag in the mound of BS that I was dealing with at the time.  MY FLAG MFer!

There are many ways people can screw up, its all in how you learn from the mistakes. Nothing is going to stop you but yourself, and nothing feels sweeter than achieving your goal, whatever that may be. If you let booze control you, its nearly impossible for your mind to make good decisions. I know you are on the right track, you just gotta fine tune the carbs a bit to get optimum mileage.

MAN HUG

 

 

Hell of a story man. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like you’ve been through some tough stuff but came out better for it on the other side.

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13 minutes ago, Bombdirt said:

Hell of a story man. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like you’ve been through some tough stuff but came out better for it on the other side.

Well it remains to be seen if its better, but it has potential LOL

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There arent any magic pills or easy answers to anything. Bum, if you ever need to shoot the sh*t with a stranger, let me know. I'm using this forum for my own accountability, but I welcome any who need a place to vent about this kind of stuff. Things that were funny at 25 get real sad at 45. Thanks for the share, brother.

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3 hours ago, Kleckineau said:

Take a hike you jackass.

It was a genuine question. I don't drink much either now.

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On 6/16/2018 at 11:10 AM, T0mShane said:

Weed is amazing for my anxiety, but the downside is it puts me right to sleep, usually, so I rarely do it. I also feel like a moron sneaking under the oven vent and stuffing a little glass pipe with rank shrubbery like some degenerate teen, stinking up the entire place like a gross Hookah den. I realize this is vestigial shame borne of Nancy Reagan’s “Just Say No” crap that was burned into my brain as a youth, but it is what it is. When I was in Colorado last year, some dude was using a vape pen that delivered 98% THC, with no odor and almost no smoke. That’s the future right there.

Vape pens are great. But if you're getting knocked out then it sounds like you should be trying a different strand.

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On 6/20/2018 at 7:28 AM, TeddEY said:

One thing I used to do when I had a bit more time was go to a rock climbing gym.  Less impact on the lower body and a lot of the same benefits.  Plus most gyms are super friendly and welcoming.  Worth checking out if you’re looking for a healthy outlet.

They just pointed their fingers and laughed when I showed up. Probably just picked the wrong one. 

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On 6/28/2018 at 7:07 PM, BUM-KNEE said:

I guess I will add my thoughts/story.

I drank like a fish since I was 17 or so, unfortunately in rural Maine theres not an overabundance to do. I had run ins with the law, blew out my knee, tore my shoulder up good too along the way. At age 36 I quit cold turkey in 2006, and felt pretty good about things. My health was better thats for sure, along with my wallet. I got my life in order for the most part.

Then in the fall of 2014 my best friend killed himself, and the factory I worked at closed in the spring of 2015, thus ending my job. I thought about drinking heavily, but always talked myself out of it. I went to college for free because of the outsourced job, and was in my first semester of a business administration degree at age 45. Then my wife walked out, having a midlife crisis. 15 years of marriage thrown out the window. Then my father passed away 6 months later. I broke down into a deep depression and started drinking again, slowly picking up the intensity. Last winter I ran head on into a white birch tree on my snowmobile going roughly 70 mph while drinking. I thought I was dead, or at least busted up in good shape. But... I had no broken bones. My sled was nearly folded in half though.

I now wonder how the hell I even made it this far in life. I took so many risks through the years while drinking, stupid risks. So much bad could have happened, and I reflect upon it often.

I have now greatly moderated my booze intake, and feel like I could quit cold turkey again if needed. I slip back down the ladder once in awhile, thinking of my Dad and my effing wife. But..... I wont stop moving forward, and I wont stop trying to have a better life. I graduated college with honors, and was the oldest in my class. I did that for me, to prove a point to myself. I wanted to plant my flag in the mound of BS that I was dealing with at the time.  MY FLAG MFer!

There are many ways people can screw up, its all in how you learn from the mistakes. Nothing is going to stop you but yourself, and nothing feels sweeter than achieving your goal, whatever that may be. If you let booze control you, its nearly impossible for your mind to make good decisions. I know you are on the right track, you just gotta fine tune the carbs a bit to get optimum mileage.

MAN HUG

 

 

Wow that's nuts but awesome story 

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