Patriot Killa Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Jets’ Leonard Williams is not worried about contract situation The Jets have had some high-profile contract situations with defensive linemen in recent years. What to do with Muhammad Wilkerson, Sheldon Richardson and Damon Harrison were all big decisions for general manager Mike Maccagnan. All three of those players are now gone — Wilkerson after a contract extension did not work out, Richardson after getting traded and Harrison being allowed to walk in free agency. The next big contract decision Maccagnan faces is Leonard Williams. But don’t expect the fourth-year player to make a big issue out of getting a new deal. “The contract’s going to come,” Williams said Tuesday. “There’s no pressure for it. I’m not like thirsty for it or anything like that. I just want to keep working hard and keep focusing on year by year and just making myself the best possible and helping my team be the best possible, and the money will come.” Williams is under contract through the 2019 season after the Jets picked up his fifth-year option this spring, so there’s no rush. But players are permitted to get extensions after their third year in the league, so Williams could start squawking now about a new deal. That is not Williams, though. Williams was asked Tuesday what his approach is to what could be a contract year if the Jets decide to extend him before next season rather than let him hit free agency in 2020. “I’m approaching it the same way I approach every year. I’m not really in it for the money,” Williams said. “I’m in it for the personal growth, personal accolades and stuff like that. I think when you’re focusing on football and what you have to get done, the money and the contracts come with it. If I’m focusing on what I can do to help my team in the best way possible and if I’m focusing on how I can get our team to the next level, get our team to the playoffs and championships and stuff like that, the money comes along the way.” Williams is coming off a 2017 season that could be viewed as a disappointment, at least statistically. Williams managed just two sacks, though he did have plenty of quarterback pressures and played well against the run. He has been working to improve those sack numbers this offseason. Getting better, not getting paid, occupies Williams’ thoughts. “It’s one of my goals to be one of the best players, one of the best defensive linemen,” Williams said. “When that comes, I think the money comes with it.” How close is he to being one of the best? “I think I still have some work,” Williams said. With veterans like Wilkerson, Richardson and David Harris no longer around, Williams has tried to be more of a vocal leader this year. “He’s become a lot more vocal,” coach Todd Bowles said. “Obviously, that comes with growing of age and I would say confidence as well. I would say he’s become more of a leader.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Phew good thing the media is concerned for him, and will keep reminding him every day they get a chance to talk to him, those media guys, and gals are such great people looking out for Leo, and his possible future earnings while Leo doesn’t worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Watch your ass, Williams, or you’ll wind up on a contending team in the NFC North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Barring a phenominal year, id let him walk. Not worth the money he is going to want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Barring a phenominal year, id let him walk. Not worth the money he is going to want. Oh boy these Jet fans. *Complains about non-existent talent on roster* *Wants to let talented player walk* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Oh boy these Jet fans. *Complains about non-existent talent on roster* *Wants to let talented player walk* Franchise tag for DE’s is roughly $15 mil per. If Williams goes out and gets six sacks this year, are you comfortable giving him 4 years, $65 mil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Barring a phenominal year, id let him walk. Not worth the money he is going to want. Yes because the Jets gotta make sure they have enough to give McCown 20 million next year to be the defacto QB coach who can play if needed, and save the other 80 million for the next 3 years of giving Josh McCown another raise after each season until he is 45 at which point the Jets then need to open up The wallet to pay Adams, and Maye Franchise QB $$$$$$$ because safeties. Definitely lets not sign a guy who is 2 weeks shy of turning 24 (he is younger then our 3rd round pick this year in Nathan Shepherd think about that), and already has 3 years of experience with no major injury history to an early eventual team friendly deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Franchise tag for DE’s is roughly $15 mil per. If Williams goes out and gets six sacks this year, are you comfortable giving him 4 years, $65 mil? Very, he will be 28 when that contract expires, Nathan Shepherd will be a year older looking to cash in on his 2nd contract at the same time if he turns out to be good, so now that I think about it make it 6 for 95 mil, last 2 years non guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Franchise tag for DE’s is roughly $15 mil per. If Williams goes out and gets six sacks this year, are you comfortable giving him 4 years, $65 mil? Posts like these show your complete lack of the foosball knowledge. I'm embarrassed for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I’m not saying that we should not sign Leo since it would be foolish with all the cap space that we have that we can’t waste and lose after the 4 year cap rollover period. I just think we are building a 3-4 ass backwards even since the Rex Ryan days. The lineman need to be space eaters and the line backers need to be the strength of the 3-4. We actually had a situation where our d-line was “stacked” for a 3-4 with the sons of anarchy AND Leo. What did that do? Completely underperformed and still couldn’t get any pass rush even with a “dominant” d-line. It was a misuse of draft resources and I’m happy we all got to see first hand that even with the stars aligning and having the “perfect” d-line, it didn’t mean jack sh**. We need a stud pass rusher that’s worth paying any price for and maybe 1 solid 3-4 DE like Leo that we can pay and a good nose tackle. No need to repeat history again and I’m hoping that’s why we dumped Mo, Sheltard and Snacks so quickly after that botched experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Maccagnan’s going to wait until fifteen minutes before the 2020 league year starts and then pay him 120% of what he’s worth. I wouldn’t be worried either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 We have 70 trillion dollars over the this year and next to sign other teams mid grade free agents unless they are corners. If you have good players you sign your own guys 1st. Williams has been hampered by sh*tty lazy teammates on the dline and a sh*tty coach that has no clue on how to isolate his best players against other teams weak players. I'd feel a lot better giving williams big money than i ever did giving mo wilk big money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Macc is the bizarro Midas when it comes to DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Leo is yet to earn the big money contract. He needs to earn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: Franchise tag for DE’s is roughly $15 mil per. If Williams goes out and gets six sacks this year, are you comfortable giving him 4 years, $65 mil? That’s what, 40% more than what McCown’s averaged? So yeah probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Don't pay 3-4 ends 17 mill per. They don't get sacks and eat up blockers. Thats pass rusher money, not 6-8 sack money if he has a fantastic year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said: Barring a phenominal year, id let him walk. Not worth the money he is going to want. Oh yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I’m a firm believer in paying your good players, especially when you have an abundance of cap. I’d rather us front load Leo’s deal rather than try to buy a bunch of outside FAs. Leo has been the perfect embodiment of what we want our team to be about. If he can continue to get better I think it would be foolish not to pay the guy. I also think we have too much money to actually spend in FA for the amount of talent that will actually want to come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I honestly dont know what they should pay this guy. He is certainly not a jag but in my mind not a top 10 D lineman either. When I look at him play, his body build, strength, height etc. and cant help wondering how this kid would do if he played end instead of tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Leo seems to understand he has work to do before demanding a big contract. Let’s see what he does this year playing on a line without Mo asleeperson next to him. Maybe kid draws less double teams he will be able to show what he is worth. Seems like a genuinely nice kid and a solid dude. I want to see him come back strong this year. No money yet though. I’m rooting for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 pretty much a non-story. leo is right. he shouldn't be worried about his contract. he'll be rewarded for his play and it's not like he's making chump change right now. he's pretty much set for life if he walks away today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 9 hours ago, T0mShane said: Franchise tag for DE’s is roughly $15 mil per. If Williams goes out and gets six sacks this year, are you comfortable giving him 4 years, $65 mil? Good argument for trying to get it done now, with Leo coming off an off-year, and the team still being flush in cap space. Williams seems like a level-headed kid who isn't going to quit the moment he gets paid. Right now is the time where you might be able to sign him to a team-friendly deal. Instead of what he's actually going to do: 8 hours ago, dbatesman said: Maccagnan’s going to wait until fifteen minutes before the 2020 league year starts and then pay him 120% of what he’s worth. I wouldn’t be worried either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Williams production would need to expand materially for him to worth anything meaningful in an extension tbqh. As of now, he basically a JAG. A disappointment, production wise, as a top 10 draft pick to-date, especially under a so-called Defensive Coach in Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Leo strikes me as one of those players who if he played for a coach that actually gets the most out of his players and puts them in position to succeed, he'd be one of the best in the league. Instead, he's stuck playing for the most demotivating coach in the league who forces him to play in a box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 2 hours ago, bla bla bla said: Leo has been the perfect embodiment of what we want our team to be about. 11 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: “I’m in it for the personal growth, personal accolades and stuff like that.” Hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Why should he be worried? Macagnan already has the $140 million extension drawn up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, JiF said: Leo strikes me as one of those players who if he played for a coach that actually gets the most out of his players and puts them in position to succeed, he'd be one of the best in the league. Instead, he's stuck playing for the most demotivating coach in the league who forces him to play in a box. I would love to see a lot of our defensive players under a different coach just to know if they are actually good. Right now, everyone is underperforming or not playing anywhere near what their draft hype said they would play. We actually drafted the right guys on defense according to a lot of people so I think coaching is a real issue on this team. We the fans are hard on these players but they need to be seen under a new coach before final judgement. I hope for nothing more than Bowles being fired. Last year’s success was only due to an offense that really exceeded expectations and he went and fired the coordinator. He...has....to...go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: I would love to see a lot of our defensive players under a different coach just to know if they are actually good. Right now, everyone is underperforming or not playing anywhere near what their draft hype said they would play. We actually drafted the right guys on defense according to a lot of people so I think coaching is a real issue on this team. We the fans are hard on these players but they need to be seen under a new coach before final judgement. I hope for nothing more than Bowles being fired. Last year’s success was only due to an offense that really exceeded expectations and he went and fired the coordinator. He...has....to...go. Kacy Rodgers must give one hell of a blow job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 8 hours ago, BurnleyJet said: Don't pay 3-4 ends 17 mill per. They don't get sacks and eat up blockers. Thats pass rusher money, not 6-8 sack money if he has a fantastic year. The Wilkerson contract was beyond dumb. Ofcourse Mac will make the same mistake again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: I would love to see a lot of our defensive players under a different coach just to know if they are actually good. Right now, everyone is underperforming or not playing anywhere near what their draft hype said they would play. We actually drafted the right guys on defense according to a lot of people so I think coaching is a real issue on this team. We the fans are hard on these players but they need to be seen under a new coach before final judgement. I hope for nothing more than Bowles being fired. Last year’s success was only due to an offense that really exceeded expectations and he went and fired the coordinator. He...has....to...go. Are they really underperforming tho? I just don’t see where the talent is on our defense despite all the first round picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, JiF said: Leo strikes me as one of those players who if he played for a coach that actually gets the most out of his players and puts them in position to succeed, he'd be one of the best in the league. Instead, he's stuck playing for the most demotivating coach in the league who forces him to play in a box. Leo is a good 3-4 DE nothing more. He’s not JJ Watt not even close he’s Sheldon minus the problem child attitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, Philc1 said: Leo is a good 3-4 DE nothing more. He’s not JJ Watt not even close he’s Sheldon minus the problem child attitude When Mo and Sheldon played for a coach that knew how to get the most out of them, they were 5x the player of Leo. And I love Leo. Hell, Mo was literally bagging it in, didnt give a **** and didnt play the last 3 games, still out produced Leo in every single measurable category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Are they really underperforming tho? I just don’t see where the talent is on our defense despite all the first round picks I’m really not sure and just trying to be hopeful because it feels like we are the only team that never gets 1st round picks right and with all these top 10 picks, there has to be another issue. Again, as I’ve stated before, I would draft completely differently based on positional value and different types of players but I think the picks that we made should be doing much better. They weren’t “terrible” picks. Can’t be missing on every pick. At some point it has to be poor coaching and call me crazy but Todd Bowles doesn’t strike me as someone that has any idea what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Kleckineau said: I honestly dont know what they should pay this guy. He is certainly not a jag but in my mind not a top 10 D lineman either. When I look at him play, his body build, strength, height etc. and cant help wondering how this kid would do if he played end instead of tackle. I'm in the same boat. He's good, but I thought he would be elite. He's not. You don't want to pay him elite money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 14 hours ago, T0mShane said: Franchise tag for DE’s is roughly $15 mil per. If Williams goes out and gets six sacks this year, are you comfortable giving him 4 years, $65 mil? Absolutely... are you kidding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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