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3 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said:

I don't know...the Browns are pretty persuasive liars.

Well your right about that.  

Still I happened to go into the Cleveland papers out of curiosity, and unlike Darnold , Mayfield didn't get a single rep with the one's during mini camp.  The Brown's are still going with the "It's Taylor's team" line.  Seems like most of the fans, and the scribes are sitting good with it.

  

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5 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said:

One would think that if he were showing tremendous talent, that would be out there by the media.  He seems to be the only QB of the five not getting any buzz.

Word was that the Browns felt that bringing a franchise out of the dumps was "too big for Sam" to handle.  Meanwhile, there are several offensive coaches at USC that can thank Sam for saving their jobs, and the season. Twice. 

To tell you the truth I thought the Jets were going to get Mayfield, and I was good with it.   Two reasons......

 

I was sure Darnold was not going to make it to 3, so didn't really consider him that much.

The turnover ratio worried me.  Still does.

Since Darnold has been here he seems to have won everyone who has seen him  over, including the NYC hack scribes.  That's amazing.  I'm very happy the Jets got Darnold at this point.  Think between his demeanor, and physical talent, if he gets the turnovers under control has a chance to be elite.

Only downside is he'll probably save Bowles job also.  :) 

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On 6/15/2018 at 8:46 AM, Ohio State NY Jets fan said:

Every Jets fans loves to hear these reports, we Thank the FO's of Brown and Blue for this gift

even SOJF are letting a little hope back in their fandom

Nah sojf have still been debating me how much more talented the browns are like they did last year prior that monster breakout 0-16 year they had 

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1 hour ago, HelenOfTroy said:

I don't know...the Browns are pretty persuasive liars.

Perhaps they changed their minds. 

Or they thought they could get baker and rb and that was better than Sam and top cb. 

They thought giants would take Sam.  I understand that rational. 

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9 hours ago, ChuckkieB said:

By what we've seen and heard so far about Darnold and Mayfield post draft, the Jets definitely got the right guy.  The Browns ineptitude is the gift that keeps on giving. 

I think they were hoping the giants took Sam so they could get stud rb.  Calculated gamble that didn’t work. 

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3 hours ago, flgreen said:

To tell you the truth I thought the Jets were going to get Mayfield, and I was good with it.   Two reasons......

 

I was sure Darnold was not going to make it to 3, so didn't really consider him that much.

The turnover ratio worried me.  Still does.

Since Darnold has been here he seems to have won everyone who has seen him  over, including the NYC hack scribes.  That's amazing.  I'm very happy the Jets got Darnold at this point.  Think between his demeanor, and physical talent, if he gets the turnovers under control has a chance to be elite.

Only downside is he'll probably save Bowles job also.  :) 

We all have our preferences, Mayfield was the last QB I would have chosen,  I liked Rosen after Sam (I admit my opinion of Sam is colored by homerism, so doesn't count!), I did hear a lot of great stuff about Josh Allen a year before the draft, Jordan Palmer raved about his talent, which we heard via Jordan's FIL, who is part of our tailgate/season ticket group.

I hope Sam cleans up the fumble issues, but I think there will always be INT due to his gunslinger mentality. 

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15 minutes ago, batman10023 said:

Perhaps they changed their minds. 

Or they thought they could get baker and rb and that was better than Sam and top cb. 

They thought giants would take Sam.  I understand that rational. 

Of course they did.....their right to do so, it's not exactly as if they are this prized franchise that can afford to have any whispers of them going back on their word.  It's a two way street, come free agency time, it may cause a needed player to choose another franchise because they can't be trusted.

One thing you learn talking to NFL players is, they talk to each other, and they certainly discuss negatives about certain franchises.

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9 hours ago, HelenOfTroy said:

We all have our preferences, Mayfield was the last QB I would have chosen,  I liked Rosen after Sam (I admit my opinion of Sam is colored by homerism, so doesn't count!), I did hear a lot of great stuff about Josh Allen a year before the draft, Jordan Palmer raved about his talent, which we heard via Jordan's FIL, who is part of our tailgate/season ticket group.

I hope Sam cleans up the fumble issues, but I think there will always be INT due to his gunslinger mentality. 

Allen is going to be a HUGE disappointment.  With rare exceptions, you can't fix inaccuracy.

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30 minutes ago, Bruce Harper said:

Allen is going to be a HUGE disappointment.  With rare exceptions, you can't fix inaccuracy.

Will he be as big a disappointment as Baker?

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9 hours ago, HelenOfTroy said:

We all have our preferences, Mayfield was the last QB I would have chosen,  I liked Rosen after Sam (I admit my opinion of Sam is colored by homerism, so doesn't count!), I did hear a lot of great stuff about Josh Allen a year before the draft, Jordan Palmer raved about his talent, which we heard via Jordan's FIL, who is part of our tailgate/season ticket group.

I hope Sam cleans up the fumble issues, but I think there will always be INT due to his gunslinger mentality. 

The guy keeps plays alive and always has his eyes looking downfield.  He makes plays after other QBs have given up the down.  Might that cause him to take a chance and get burned?  Sure

But he will also allow his receivers to get open and throw TDs.  If he has 40 TDs and 15 INTs id be fine with that.

Brett Farve did Ok being a bit of a gun slinger

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3 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said:

The guy keeps plays alive and always has his eyes looking downfield.  He makes plays after other QBs have given up the down.  Might that cause him to take a chance and get burned?  Sure

But he will also allow his receivers to get open and throw TDs.  If he has 40 TDs and 15 INTs id be fine with that.

Brett Farve did Ok being a bit of a gun slinger

Gun slinging is Darnold’s game.  His ability to improvise out of the pocket made him the best qb prospect in this year’s draft by far

 

If you want 2 yard passes and 0 INTs yeah Teddy is your guy

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11 hours ago, kevinc855 said:

Nah sojf have still been debating me how much more talented the browns are like they did last year prior that monster breakout 0-16 year they had 

LOL - I have not seen much of that since the draft, I don't think you can find a SOJF who would trade QB rooms with the Browns

Sam, Teddy and Uncle Josh >>>  Tyrod, Baker and Drew "we hardly knew ya" Stanton

now Myles Garrett would look good in green :)

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33 minutes ago, Bowles Movement said:

The guy keeps plays alive and always has his eyes looking downfield.  He makes plays after other QBs have given up the down.  Might that cause him to take a chance and get burned?  Sure

But he will also allow his receivers to get open and throw TDs.  If he has 40 TDs and 15 INTs id be fine with that.

Brett Farve did Ok being a bit of a gun slinger

You nailed it.  He was never flustered, would come back the next series and make a spectacular play.   Sam was so fun to watch...

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25 minutes ago, HelenOfTroy said:

You nailed it.  He was never flustered, would come back the next series and make a spectacular play.   Sam was so fun to watch...

I think that’s a really good sign we keep hearing about Sam bouncing back from mistakes at practice 

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14 hours ago, HelenOfTroy said:

Of course they did.....their right to do so, it's not exactly as if they are this prized franchise that can afford to have any whispers of them going back on their word.  It's a two way street, come free agency time, it may cause a needed player to choose another franchise because they can't be trusted.

One thing you learn talking to NFL players is, they talk to each other, and they certainly discuss negatives about certain franchises.

i think you are taking the decision to not take Sam first overall very hard.   This stuff happens all the time.  

Free agents are going to go to where the most money is, for the most part. 

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38 minutes ago, batman10023 said:

i think you are taking the decision to not take Sam first overall very hard.   This stuff happens all the time.  

Free agents are going to go to where the most money is, for the most part. 

Like Cousins?

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17 hours ago, flgreen said:

Well your right about that.  

Still I happened to go into the Cleveland papers out of curiosity, and unlike Darnold , Mayfield didn't get a single rep with the one's during mini camp.  The Brown's are still going with the "It's Taylor's team" line.  Seems like most of the fans, and the scribes are sitting good with it.

  

One scribe also put out a report that Baker didn't look good enough to even compete with Taylor for the top spot so might not be a comparable scenario.  

 

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So I'm at the batting cage in my Jets gear today and one guy says, "hey you got your quarterback" I of course down play it because of all the scars and the guy tells me he's a giants fan and then spends 5 minutes convincing me that Darnold is going to be great. 

There is another guy listening, saying nothing, and the first guy says, "hey aren't you a Jets fan too?"

Of course the other Jets fan says it's too early to tell blah blah blah 

**** it 

No more letting the scars win, we have our guy, let's enjoy it!!!!! 

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Darnold has been back out West for a couple weeks now.  I think I saw a video of him throwing footballs around Huntington Harbor.  It looked familiar because I fell off a damn standup paddle board in that harbor last year. lol

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I really like Hansen’s initiative and hopefully work ethic since he packed on muscle. He knows that having chemistry with the franchise QB will go along way for him since the coaches will want to make Sam as comfortable as possible. Chad seems really serious....or just loaded up on PEDs....or both? 

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On 6/22/2018 at 9:01 AM, flgreen said:

Well your right about that.  

Still I happened to go into the Cleveland papers out of curiosity, and unlike Darnold , Mayfield didn't get a single rep with the one's during mini camp.  The Brown's are still going with the "It's Taylor's team" line.  Seems like most of the fans, and the scribes are sitting good with it.

  

Hue Jackson is a master of self preservation. This way when he can't win with Taylor and switches to Mayfield, he'll have the built-in excuse of "well, after an off season of getting first-team reps, Mayfield will shine next year, give me another year."

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