JetNation Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Well, it turns out that former Jets general manager John Idzik wasn’t just great at passing on quality players come draft time, but he’s also adept at passing the buck when looking back at his abhorrent drafts during his time with the Jets. In sharing some of his thoughts on the current state of the Jets and how they got where they are, Rich Cimini of ESPN New York shared a bit of inside info on Idzik’s reflections on failure. If at first you don’t succeed: Zack Martin‘s monster contract extension with the Dallas Cowboys this week served as the latest painful reminder for Jets fans on how their team botched the 2014 draft. Martin is one 13 players with multiple Pro Bowls from that talent-rich draft, one of the best in recent memory. With 12 selections, the Jets should’ve made a killing, but only one has become a productive player — wide receiver Quincy Enunwa (sixth round). Privately, former general manager John Idzik, the mastermind of the debacle, has told people his picks weren’t properly developed. That’s what you call passing the buck. So, according to Idzik, it’s not that Dee Milliner, Geno Smith, Oday Aboushi, William Campbell, Tommy Bohannon, Calvin Pryor, Jace Amaro, Dexter McDougle, Jalen Saunders, Shaq Evans, Jeremiah George, Brandon Dixon, IK Enemkpali, Tajh Boyd and Trevor Reilly aren’t quality players. That wasn’t it at all. What hurt his legacy is that the teams who have worked with these players don’t know how to develop talent. You know, teams like the Saints, Patriots, Cowboys, Buccaneers, Seahawks, Jaguars and Chiefs, to name a few clubs who have at one point or another employed the Idizk All-Stars after their time with Gang Green. The post Cimini: Former Jets GM Faults Others for his Failures appeared first on JetNation.com (NY Jets Blog & Forum). Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 He picked 12 random players one year just to make Manish look like an a**hole. While it didn't pan out, I respect the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 He had 12 picks that he could have made into 7 quality picks by trading up. That bufoon Rex had influence too. He could have had a hobo pick the players for MD 20/20 a pop and we would have had a better draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 On 5/29/2018 at 11:00 AM, JetNation said: Even if there is no playoff mandate for 2018, there should absolutely be a “play better” mandate as the personnel has grown and been upgraded. If the moves don’t lead to improved on-field results, it could result in a move for a new head coach. just gonna leave this here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 If only there was some other proof that Rex was a cancerous, meddling lesion who readily sabotaged the careers of other general managers, so much so that he can’t get another interview in the NFL ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 On 12/11/2016 at 9:26 PM, AFJF said: You know who should be most concerned about this? No Jets fan ever. He's gone. He won four road playoff games here..hope you enjoyed them because he's gone. J-E-T;S JETS! JETS! JETS! On 12/4/2016 at 7:28 PM, AFJF said: This is some fans have been reduced to? Laughing at the fact that the Bills may only win twice as many games as the Jets? When is the draft? On 7/17/2015 at 1:40 PM, AFJF said: It's Rex...some Jets fans care about his every move. also leaving these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, dbatesman said: just gonna leave this here Yes, but will it be a good six and ten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 These articles usually come with a quote, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 52 minutes ago, T0mShane said: If only there was some other proof that Rex was a cancerous, meddling lesion who readily sabotaged the careers of other general managers, so much so that he can’t get another interview in the NFL ever again. Your love for Idzik, still continues. He makes Trader Mike look like Ozzie Newsome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, JetNation said: Well, it turns out that former Jets general manager John Idzik wasn’t just great at passing on quality players come draft time, but he’s also adept at passing the buck when looking back at his abhorrent drafts during his time with the Jets. In sharing some of his thoughts on the current state of the Jets and how they got where they are, Rich Cimini of ESPN New York shared a bit of inside info on Idzik’s reflections on failure. If at first you don’t succeed: Zack Martin‘s monster contract extension with the Dallas Cowboys this week served as the latest painful reminder for Jets fans on how their team botched the 2014 draft. Martin is one 13 players with multiple Pro Bowls from that talent-rich draft, one of the best in recent memory. With 12 selections, the Jets should’ve made a killing, but only one has become a productive player — wide receiver Quincy Enunwa (sixth round). Privately, former general manager John Idzik, the mastermind of the debacle, has told people his picks weren’t properly developed. That’s what you call passing the buck. So, according to Idzik, it’s not that Dee Milliner, Geno Smith, Oday Aboushi, William Campbell, Tommy Bohannon, Calvin Pryor, Jace Amaro, Dexter McDougle, Jalen Saunders, Shaq Evans, Jeremiah George, Brandon Dixon, IK Enemkpali, Tajh Boyd and Trevor Reilly aren’t quality players. That wasn’t it at all. What hurt his legacy is that the teams who have worked with these players don’t know how to develop talent. You know, teams like the Saints, Patriots, Cowboys, Buccaneers, Seahawks, Jaguars and Chiefs, to name a few clubs who have at one point or another employed the Idizk All-Stars after their time with Gang Green. The post Cimini: Former Jets GM Faults Others for his Failures appeared first on JetNation.com (NY Jets Blog & Forum). Click here to read the full story... McDougle was a gem. Coaching staff fail . “ Free Idzik!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: If only there was some other proof that Rex was a cancerous, meddling lesion who readily sabotaged the careers of other general managers, so much so that he can’t get another interview in the NFL ever again. Rex’s next gig - salesman for women’s shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Idziot is comparable only to Matt Millen. They are the Rich Kotite's of the GM world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Boyish said something like "There's no way that Idzot could be dumb enough to draft 12 players in one year.". Sometimes when you win, you lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, BurnleyJet said: Your love for Idzik, still continues. He makes Trader Mike look like Ozzie Newsome. Idzik’s front office resume: —Young and talented Bucs team full of future HOFers that wins Super Bowl —Young and talented Seahawks team full of future Hall of Famers that wins Super Bowl —Locked in impossible management circumstance by Woody with idiot-in-exile manchild Rex Ryan who got three GMs fired in eight years, which is a record. —Young and freakishly talented Jaguars team that is contending for a titles with Blake Bortles as their QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 The idzik draft truly was a cfl development draft. Yet another, jarvis harrison is playing for Saskatchewan. That was a heinous awful draft and idzik deserved to be canned as a result, everything else he did okay imo. Got lots of picks, jettisoned dead wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 How to Fail in the corporate world in 12 easy steps!! By John Idzik Forward by Rex Ryan "An absolute must read!!" - Mike Tannenbaum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Idzik’s front office resume: —Young and talented Bucs team full of future HOFers that wins Super Bowl —Young and talented Seahawks team full of future Hall of Famers that wins Super Bowl —Locked in impossible management circumstance by Woody with idiot-in-exile manchild Rex Ryan who got three GMs fired in eight years, which is a record. —Young and freakishly talented Jaguars team that is contending for a titles with Blake Bortles as their QB He was basically in the business office in all of those spots, never drafted a single player before or after his Jets gig. He has as much to do with those teams successes as the Janitor at One Patriot Place does with the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: How to Fail in the corporate world in 12 easy steps!! By John Idzik Forward by Rex Ryan "An absolute must read!!" - Mike Tannenbaum But what does Eric Mangini say about the book? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 John Idzik LOL if it werent for he NY Jets he would have never been an NFL GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: John Idzik LOL if it werent for he NY Jets he would have never been an NFL GM. That was a fun spring when nobody would even interview for the job because nobody wanted to get stuck babysitting Rex Ryan while dealing with his sycophantic media homies ripping the GM via “anonymous sources” that coincidentally spoke exactly like Rex Ryan. Then Rex goes up to Buffalo and tried pulling that nonsense with the old school beat guys there who bitch smacked him from day one. It got so bleak that one of the papers hired the execrable Kim Martin to come up there to write fluffy Rex stories and she lasted two months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Thank you Korn/Ferry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, T0mShane said: That was a fun spring when nobody would even interview for the job because nobody wanted to get stuck babysitting Rex Ryan while dealing with his sycophantic media homies ripping the GM via “anonymous sources” that coincidentally spoke exactly like Rex Ryan. Then Rex goes up to Buffalo and tried pulling that nonsense with the old school beat guys there who bitch smacked him from day one. It got so bleak that one of the papers hired the execrable Kim Martin to come up there to write fluffy Rex stories and she lasted two months. Rex Ryan would her been a better GM than John Idzik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Rex Ryan would her been a better GM than John Idzik. Yes. A team stocked with Quentin Copleses and Scotty McKnights would have owned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC36 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Yes. A team stocked with Quentin Copleses and Scotty McKnights would have owned Seth Ryan would be catching passes alongside Santonio Holmes from mark Sanchez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, JoeC36 said: Seth Ryan would be catching passes alongside Santonio Holmes from mark Sanchez I’m still shocked he never got his boy drafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Rex Ryan would her been a better GM than John Idzik. The equipment manager sitting alone in the Draft Room with a copy of Street and Smiths DRAFT GUIDE AND RANKINGS!! (Who's RISING?! WHO'S Falling?!) magazine would have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, JoeC36 said: But what does Eric Mangini say about the book? He does the afterforward..."It'th a Protheth" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 34 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said: Thank you Korn/Ferry. As soon as they saw that idziks dad coached the Jets in the 70s, I bet they started selling woody on the connection Old head hunting tactic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 idzik gets far too much discredit. he was basically cleaning the team out. no telling if rex pulled a passive aggressive tantrum to sabotage the players idzik brought in. of course none are tearing it up anywhere else so it's not like he did and exceptional job of drafting either. here's to hoping that mac learns from his and idzik's mistakes to put a good team together. so far it's pretty iffy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, rangerous said: idzik gets far too much discredit. he was basically cleaning the team out. no telling if rex pulled a passive aggressive tantrum to sabotage the players idzik brought in. of course none are tearing it up anywhere else so it's not like he did and exceptional job of drafting either. here's to hoping that mac learns from his and idzik's mistakes to put a good team together. so far it's pretty iffy. Remember when Rex got mad that Idzik wouldn’t sign DRC so Rex chose to humiliate Antonio Allen (who ran a 4.7/40) by starting him at corner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Remember when Rex got mad that Idzik wouldn’t sign DRC so Rex chose to humiliate Antonio Allen (who ran a 4.7/40) by starting him at corner? hindsight being 20-20, rex really did screw the team up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, rangerous said: hindsight being 20-20, rex really did screw the team up. Would you like to see one of my favorite statistics in the history of sport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, rangerous said: idzik gets far too much discredit. he was basically cleaning the team out. no telling if rex pulled a passive aggressive tantrum to sabotage the players idzik brought in. of course none are tearing it up anywhere else so it's not like he did and exceptional job of drafting either. here's to hoping that mac learns from his and idzik's mistakes to put a good team together. so far it's pretty iffy. Agreed to a point. He did free up cap space but left the team nearly complete devoid of talent by missing in drafts that were stocked with talent.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Just now, T0mShane said: Would you like to see one of my favorite statistics in the history of sport? sure. rex got far too much credit. he should've been launched when idzik was hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, rangerous said: sure. rex got far too much credit. he should've been launched when idzik was hired. If Woody dumps Rex when he dumped Tannenbaum, Idzik never even gets to the interview stage here. Rex was a massive deterrent toward recruiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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