Patriot Killa Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BigO said: This the NFL not LSU. He’s not even the best safety on this team. That honor easily goes to Maye who has been subtly overlooked because of the hype of Adams mouth ? This entire board believes that Maye is better because he got two interceptions..and that’s literally IT. We really can pull up stats if you want to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 What a mind numbing argument. I can't tell if you guys are just talking past one another or if there are people here who actually believe Jamal Adams was worth the 6. He can be a solid player with good intangibles but still not worth the 6, both can be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 14 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: This entire board believes that Maye is better because he got two interceptions..and that’s literally IT. We really can pull up stats if you want to? LOL ? No that’s not why. Maye had better positioning, was an outstanding tackler, had numerous deflections and was better prepared in Bowles defensive schemes. And he let his actions speak. And he barely missed out on several other interceptions besides the 2 he notched. I know you desire Adams to be elite but he’s far from Cam Chancellor, Collins, or the greats like Troy, Houston, Smith, Lynch etc. For a guy who thinks he can change the position, he’s got a lot to prove to even be mentioned in this conversation. So give it a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just now, BigO said: LOL ? No that’s not why. Maye had better positioning, was an outstanding tackler, had numerous deflections and was better prepared in Bowles defensive schemes. And he let his actions speak. And he barely missed out on several other interceptions besides the 2 he notched. I know you desire Adams to be elite but he’s far from Cam Chancellor, Collins, or the greats like Troy, Houston, Smith, Lynch etc. For a guy who thinks he can change the position, he’s got a lot to prove to even be mentioned in this conversation. So give it a break. Adams statistics showed that he was a better player in every department you just brought up!! In fact the only reason you like Maye more IS because he isn’t as mouthy...that’s why you intentionally put “and he let his actions speak” ... lol that’s why all of you don’t like Adams. It’s you that needs to give it a break...guy isn’t even in his second year yet and you think he’s a bust. its obnoxious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 Maye: Adams: like really? How is this even still a debate, man? Just admit you don’t like Adams colorful personality..because that’s all this truly is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Adams statistics showed that he was a better player in every department you just brought up!! In fact the only reason you like Maye more IS because he isn’t as mouthy...that’s why you intentionally put “and he let his actions speak” ... lol that’s why all of you don’t like Adams. It’s you that needs to give it a break...guy isn’t even in his second year yet and you think he’s a bust. its obnoxious. You must be speaking about yourself. Go get a room with your hero. Adams ‘stats’ you speak of are reflective of Bowles positioning him in the box. Bowles knows Adams has limited range to cover. He’d get burned more than a redhead on the equator if he played Maye’s role. So ‘your’ constant stat argument/ equation, like you, is beyond irrelevant. As Parcells used to say, ‘Lets not put this guy in the Hall of Fame just yet’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Maye: Adams: like really? How is this even still a debate, man? Just admit you don’t like Adams colorful personality..because that’s all this truly is. PFF HAAAAA ? USELESS grading system. Is that all you got? That’s like saying Madonna was a better singer than Lady GaGa because she sold more albums. AGAIN, Adams has done NOTHING to distinguish himself as a premier elite safety or warrant being picked 6th. Yes he’s a newbie, 1 year under his belt. But that rationale does not give credence to annotating him the next coming of Troy Polamalu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, BigO said: You must be speaking about yourself. Go get a room with your hero. Adams ‘stats’ you speak of are reflective of Bowles positioning him in the box. Bowles knows Adams has limited range to cover. He’d get burned more than a redhead on the equator if he played Maye’s role. So ‘your’ constant stat argument/ equation, like you, is beyond irrelevant. As Parcells used to say, ‘Lets not put this guy in the Hall of Fame just yet’. So Bowles doesn’t know how to position players to succeed any other time but since you don’t like Adams, now Bowles magically has the ability to do so. Okkkkkkkkkkk. And yes as Parcells said don’t put him in the Hall Of fame just yet but you also shouldn’t mark him as a bust yet lol. 6 minutes ago, BigO said: PFF HAAAAA ? USELESS grading system. Is that all you got? That’s like saying Madonna was a better singer than Lady GaGa because she sold more albums. AGAIN, Adams has done NOTHING to distinguish himself as a premier elite safety or warrant being picked 6th. Yes he’s a newbie, 1 year under his belt. But that rationale does not give credence to annotating him the next coming of Troy Polamalu. PFF is actually pretty legit. Idk why the hate for PFF? Because it proves you wrong? What do you have to support your idea that Maye is better than Adams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: So Bowles doesn’t know how to position players to succeed any other time but since you don’t like Adams, now Bowles magically has the ability to do so. Okkkkkkkkkkk. And yes as Parcells said don’t put him in the Hall Of fame just yet but you also shouldn’t mark him as a bust yet lol. PFF is actually pretty legit. Idk why the hate for PFF? Because it proves you wrong? What do you have to support your idea that Maye is better than Adams? I watch the games ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just now, BigO said: I watch the games ? I do too.??♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 There is so much wrong in this thread and not really sure how so many Jet fans can go full stupid when it comes to Adams. History shows picking top 5 or 10 in a draft does not equate to hall of fame. The bust rate is so high for first rounders that all teams picking high are trying to find the player that is least likely to bust. It's always the safe pick unless it's a QB. So maybe temper expectations because Adams is not going to the hall of fame after one season. Who the hell has proven anything in the top 10 that was drafted last season. 2017 top ten picks. Garrett, Myles Trubisky, Mitchell Thomas, Solomon Fournette, Leonard Davis, Corey Adams, Jamal Williams, Mike McCaffrey, Christian Ross, John Mahomes, Patrick Not one person in the world had Adams not in the top 10 pre-draft. Every redraft after one year has Adams going top ten. Since when do combine numbers guarantee success? Landon Collins finished 3rd in DPOY for 2016. His combine numbers were 4.53 40, 35 INCH VERT, 120.0 INCH BROAD, 7.38 SEC 3 CONE , 4.33 SEC 20 SHUTTLE , 11.94 SEC 60 SHUTTLE Adams combine 4.56 40 18 REPS BENCH 31.5 INCH VERT 120 INCH BROAD 6.96 SEC 3 CONE 4.13 SEC 20 SHUTTLE 11.92 SEC 60 SHUTTLE Combine means sh*t but Collins is doing fine with his testing numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BigO said: I watch the games ? And btw you can’t use madonna and Gaga as an example or compare them to PFF when music is subjective as hell. No one can prove who is “better” in music...that’s for the listener to decide. Adams is factually better than Maye right now. This is not a subjective conversation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: There is so much wrong in this thread and not really sure how so many Jet fans can go full stupid when it comes to Adams. History shows picking top 5 or 10 in a draft does not equate to hall of fame. The bust rate is so high for first rounders that all teams picking high are trying to find the player that is least likely to bust. It's always the safe pick unless it's a QB. So maybe temper expectations because Adams is not going to the hall of fame after one season. Who the hell has proven anything in the top 10 that was drafted last season. 2017 top ten picks. Garrett, Myles Trubisky, Mitchell Thomas, Solomon Fournette, Leonard Davis, Corey Adams, Jamal Williams, Mike McCaffrey, Christian Ross, John Mahomes, Patrick Not one person in the world had Adams not in the top 10 pre-draft. Every redraft after one year has Adams going top ten. Since when do combine numbers guarantee success? Landon Collins finished 3rd in DPOY for 2016. His combine numbers were 4.53 40, 35 INCH VERT, 120.0 INCH BROAD, 7.38 SEC 3 CONE , 4.33 SEC 20 SHUTTLE , 11.94 SEC 60 SHUTTLE Adams combine 4.56 40 18 REPS BENCH 31.5 INCH VERT 120 INCH BROAD 6.96 SEC 3 CONE 4.13 SEC 20 SHUTTLE 11.92 SEC 60 SHUTTLE Combine means sh*t but Collins is doing fine with his testing numbers. Would you rather have Landon Collins or Jamal Adams right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 minute ago, T0mShane said: Would you rather have Landon Collins or Jamal Adams right now? Some players take a little longer to come into themselves in the pros. I don’t see where you asking this question matters..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Some players take a little longer to come into themselves in the pros. I don’t see where you asking this question matters..? Would you rather have Jamal Adams or Tredavious White right now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Some players take a little longer to come into themselves in the pros. I don’t see where you asking this question matters..? Same applies to members on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: And btw you can’t use madonna and Gaga as an example or compare them to PFF when music is subjective as hell. No one can prove who is “better” in music...that’s for the listener to decide. Adams is factually better than Maye right now. This is not a subjective conversation... Thats your opinion. Many on here think otherwise. In FACT, many on here, who are far more experienced than you in football matters, are already considering Adams a 1st round reach/bust. PFF LOL Pure Fictional Fantasy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Would you rather have Jamal Adams or Tredavious White right now? Jamal Adams, we got our corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, BigO said: Thats your opinion. Many on here think otherwise. In FACT, many on here, who are far more experienced than you in football matters, are already considering Adams a 1st round reach/bust. PFF LOL Pure Fictional Fantasy Age doesn’t equate to football knowledge, that’s your first error. your second is thinking your eyes are more credible than PFF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Age doesn’t equate to football knowledge, that’s your first error. Your age equates to your impetuousness mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Jamal Adams, we got our corners. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Would you rather have Jamal Adams or Tredavious White right now? You wasting your time trying to be logical with Paperboy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Age doesn’t equate to football knowledge, that’s your first error. your second is thinking your eyes are more credible than PFF No my first error was trying to even debate this with a youngin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, BigO said: Your age equates to your impetuousness mindset. Oh but the irony of that sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted June 28, 2018 Author Share Posted June 28, 2018 25 minutes ago, T0mShane said: The more appropriate question for you to ask would be who do I prefer out of Pryor or Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: The more appropriate question for you to ask would be who do I prefer out of Pryor or Adams. Who is Pryor, my bro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: The more appropriate question for you to ask would be who do I prefer out of Pryor or Adams. Even more appropriate would be Adams or Pryor, Tre'Davious White, John Johnson, and Rashaan Evans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Would you rather have Landon Collins or Jamal Adams right now? Landon Collins, great player. Rather have Adams because he's a Jet and after one season, I'm sure he's not a finished product. Just like Collins wasn't a finished product after his rookie season. But I guess you knew he would end being a top 5 defensive player after his 112 combine tackle, 1 pick, no sack rookie season. Also Collins came into the league as a "box safety" but was voted a top 3 DPOY. Hows that for impact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Another stupid thing Adams haters like to point out is Anthony Fasano beat Adams for a TD. Fasano has 35 other career TD catches. I'm sure those were only made against the scrubs of the NFL, and not against other quality defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: Landon Collins, great player. Rather have Adams because he's a Jet and after one season, I'm sure he's not a finished product. Just like Collins wasn't a finished product after his rookie season. But I guess you knew he would end being a top 5 defensive player after his 112 combine tackle, 1 pick, no sack rookie season. Also Collins came into the league as a "box safety" but was voted a top 3 DPOY. Hows that for impact When you say that Adams isn’t a “finished product,” can you clarify whether or not you’ve ever seen him before he got to the Jets? Because this is what he is, and that’s it. He can’t cover anyone, he’s not an elite athlete, and he’s on the smaller side. He got drafted high because he’s a legacy with a good attitude. What do us think he’s going to become? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 minute ago, RESNewYork said: Another stupid thing Adams haters like to point out is Anthony Fasano beat Adams for a TD. Fasano has 35 other career TD catches. I'm sure those were only made against the scrubs of the NFL, and not against other quality defenders. Fasano TD Truthers. Peak JN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, RESNewYork said: Rather have Adams because he's a Jet You could have just written this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 6 hours ago, T0mShane said: He was not the best DB at LSU. Maybe he wasn't the best, but he was the leader! 5 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: Maye: Adams: like really? How is this even still a debate, man? Just admit you don’t like Adams colorful personality..because that’s all this truly is. 4 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: PFF is actually pretty legit. Idk why the hate for PFF? Because it proves you wrong? What do you have to support your idea that Maye is better than Adams? If you like Adams so much, maybe PFF isn't the grade you want to use. Notice the little box where he grades as "above average?" That says he was the 34th best safety in the NFL. Obviously worth #6 overall, right? More importantly, I don't want to go find my post, but at least 3 rookie safeties graded higher. Probably more, and certainly several players that play more important positions, including CB Tre'Davious White. 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: Would you rather have Landon Collins or Jamal Adams right now? Don't get me started on Landon Collins. Another "leader." How is a guy getting credited for leadership when his own position group staged a mutiny and had like 4 separate suspensions during the season. WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: When you say that Adams isn’t a “finished product,” can you clarify whether or not you’ve ever seen him before he got to the Jets? Because this is what he is, and that’s it. He can’t cover anyone, he’s not an elite athlete, and he’s on the smaller side. He got drafted high because he’s a legacy with a good attitude. What do us think he’s going to become? Got it. He sucked at LSU, he sucked his rookie year, and he will suck going forward. He got drafted high because he's a legacy with a good attitude. What is a legacy? Didn't realize these players get drafted high because of their good attitude. When you read that back, does that still make sense to you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: Fasano TD Truthers. Peak JN! 1. Make a stupid idiotic claim about Adams 2. When someone calls you out on your stupidity, try and come up with something that equally dumb fans will think is clever 3. Repeat. This is your contribution to this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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