TuscanyTile2 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I'm not saying to rate them based on their PS week 1 performance but rather your overall take on these guys now that we've actually had a chance to see them. If you could redo the draft rankings right now where would you rank the 4? I'll go with: Darnold Mayfield Allen Rosen Mayfield looked very good but I still would rather have Darnold. I listed Rosen 4th because of arm strength, lack of mobility and injury concerns. Josh Allen on the other hand is a very intriguing QB. He's a good runner and wow is his arm strong. Check out the throw at 8:05. Almost 40 yards off his back foot and it was a strike. I hope he starts this year because it'll be fun to see the guy play. Having Darnold and Allen in the AFC East are both nice additions rather than having Tom Brady as the only QB in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I think your rankings are spot on. I had Rosen as my #2 QB behind Darnold for the last year plus, as many did. But Rosen was easily the least impressive of the Top 4 guys this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 This is homerism. Darnold looked good, but Mayfield looked like he’s been in the league for ten years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: This is homerism. Darnold looked good, but Mayfield looked like he’s been in the league for ten years. Yep. Sam looked great finding his way. Baker looks like he’s already been there. Happy with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: Yep. Sam looked great finding his way. Baker looks like he’s already been there. Happy with either. Only because Sam missed 3 days of camp. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, BROOKLYN JET said: Only because Sam missed 3 days of camp. ? I think it has more to do with Bakers coach calling him out on not getting up early enough for practice. Both played like rookies with upside but Baker had a side order of FU Coach . Dude played angry good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, T0mShane said: This is homerism. Darnold looked good, but Mayfield looked like he’s been in the league for ten years. Yes he did look like he was in his early thirties. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, T0mShane said: This is homerism. Darnold looked good, but Mayfield looked like he’s been in the league for ten years. Are you saying that if the Browns offered you Baker for Darnold right now, you'd do it? I would not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Pre-draft I favored Mayfield most due his intangibles were higher, on field I saw them about equal. Since his signing the reaction of teammates to Darnold makes me believe Sam’s intangibles were under rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said: I'm not saying to rate them based on their PS week 1 performance but rather your overall take on these guys now that we've actually had a chance to see them. If you could redo the draft rankings right now where would you rank the 4? I'll go with: Darnold Mayfield Allen Rosen Mayfield looked very good but I still would rather have Darnold. I listed Rosen 4th because of arm strength, lack of mobility and injury concerns. Josh Allen on the other hand is a very intriguing QB. He's a good runner and wow is his arm strong. Check out the throw at 8:05. Almost 40 yards off his back foot and it was a strike. I hope he starts this year because it'll be fun to see the guy play. Having Darnold and Allen in the AFC East are both nice additions rather than having Tom Brady as the only QB in the division. Rosen looked better than Allen. It's not his fault he literally had to scoop every low snap off the turf. Or that he had 1.3 seconds to find an open man (who were not getting any separation).... I thought besides the one throw where he'd nearly got pick-sixed, he was OK. Not great, but OK. Allen was far more erratic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Paradis said: Rosen looked better than Allen. It's not his fault he literally had to scoop every low snap off the turf. Or that he had 1.3 seconds to find an open man (who were not getting any separation).... I thought besides the one throw where he'd nearly got pick-sixed, he was OK. Not great, but OK. Allen was far more erratic. So are your ratings Darnold, Mayfield, Rosen, Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: So are your ratings Darnold, Mayfield, Rosen, Allen? Sure. I think Darnold and Mayfield were pretty interchangeable in their postive play. Both handled themselves at QB1 levels. Both showed an advanced grasp. We shall see what week 2 holds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Paradis said: Sure. I think Darnold and Mayfield were pretty interchangeable in their postive play. Both handled themselves at QB1 levels. Both showed an advanced grasp. We shall see what week 2 holds! Reasonable choices. I'd love to poll everyone on here at various intervals of the season. I'm sure the ratings will change over time. It's interesting to see how they'll move though. I have to admit I thought the Browns were nuts to take Mayfield. I thought he was the 4th best QB of the 4. So far I have to admit that he does seem pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Reasonable choices. I'd love to poll everyone on here at various intervals of the season. I'm sure the ratings will change over time. It's interesting to see how they'll move though. I have to admit I thought the Browns were nuts to take Mayfield. I thought he was the 4th best QB of the 4. So far I have to admit that he does seem pretty good. I thought, generally speaking, they all looked exactly as advertised - though Darnold was more polished and decisive than I expected. Baker looked like OU simply switched Jerseys, Allen did his "watch this" routine with 60 yard bombs that land in receivers hands about 50% of the time, and Rosen was Rosen; takes what the defense gives him. If there's one thing about Rosen that's a knock in my books, it's that he goes to sleep for a 1-2 quarters at a time. When the light bulb goes on, there's no one better, but it's not automatic - seems need to spark or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 lamar jackson has looked good as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Mayfield looked fantastic. Darnold looked good but Mayfield looked like he hasn’t missed a beat since college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2018 may have been a wicked qb draft class. Time will tell... it will be funny if the jets and browns become dominant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Baker, Darnold, Jackson, Allen, Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 years, not making any predictions till then...too many QBs have looked great in pre-season, or their rookie year, only to fall flat on their faces and out of the league in a few years, or become career back ups. that's why you get your degree and save your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 40 minutes ago, CotcheryifyouCan said: lamar jackson has looked good as well Not really Everyone already knew that Jackson can run. But through two pre-season games he’s completing like 35% of his passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1. Mayfield 2. Darnold 3. Allen 4. Rosen (OL not best) That is all........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Hate to admit it but Josh Allen looked better than expected and a few of the throws he made even if they weren't for a completion were incredible he can throw the ball clear across the field. If he can fix his accuracy up a bit and buffalo gets their hands on a fast receiver they can be dangerous...happy with darnold. Mayfield looks good. Rosen who I love didn't impress me as much as I would have liked. Haven't seen anything from Lamar Jackson that makes me think he is going to dethrone flacco anytime soonSent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 46 minutes ago, CotcheryifyouCan said: lamar jackson has looked good as well Didn't know WR's were included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 This is dumb but, I'll go: 1. Mayfield 2. Darnold 3. Rosen 4. Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, CotcheryifyouCan said: lamar jackson has looked good as well If Lamar Jackson can stay healthy he can be a force to be reckoned with. While I don't think he'll be able to survive as a runner in the NFL (and if he doesn't run then I think i takes away a major strength of his) I'd love to see how good he can be. Imagine if he can stay healthy for even 2 years?! He can be an absolute difference maker. Baltimore has been kind of a boring offensive team for years now. He could single handedly make them electrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Darnold just turned 21 yrs old. Mayfield is 24 I think and has a lot more game experience than Darnold. Imagine Darnold at age 24 vs Mayfield now. Yes I like Mayfield but I like the grandson of Dick Hammer more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, southtown24th said: This is dumb but, I'll go: 1. Mayfield 2. Darnold 3. Rosen 4. Allen So if you were offered Mayfield for Darnold straight-up, you'd do that trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 hours ago, T0mShane said: This is homerism. Darnold looked good, but Mayfield looked like he’s been in the league for ten years. That would explain 5 of 12 at the half, barely over 50% for the game and more off target throws than on target. He completed 11 passes, at least three were off their mark and cost him YAC. But then again, i cant figure out what games some were watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Villain The Foe said: Baker, Darnold, Jackson, Allen, Rosen. I would have switched Allen and Rosen, but yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HelenOfTroy Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Nixhead said: Darnold just turned 21 yrs old. Mayfield is 24 I think and has a lot more game experience than Darnold. Imagine Darnold at age 24 vs Mayfield now. Yes I like Mayfield but I like the grandson of Dick Hammer more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 They all showed what they’re known for Allen has a cannon. If buffalo gets a speed demon and better oline Allen will make huge plays but he’s going to miss a lot and get picked. Darnold is a leader, calm, reads the d and controls the game. Mayfield is a playmaker but will have plenty of mistakes Rosen = Pennington Jackson runs like Vick and throws like sh*t. He’s not winning games and I doubt he’ll last a full season. So far I’d take Darnold then Mayfield and Allen then trade down for a lineman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Allen has the best arm strength I’ve ever seen Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 9 hours ago, freestater said: I would have switched Allen and Rosen, but yeah Both would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Would mainly rank as: 1) Darnold 2) Mayfield 3) Rosen 4) Allen Darnold's throw running to the left without setting and with pinpoint accuracy is something the other QBs probably can't do since only Rodger's is the only other QB in the league and maybe 1 or 2 others that can do that. Also, at the Goal line usually those 10 yard backup penalties cause a FG and Darnold willed his team into the EZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 16 hours ago, JetsFanatic said: Yes he did look like he was in his early thirties. Lol I can't wait to see how good Sam is after playing 2 NFL seasons & then being Mayfields age now ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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