Gas2No99 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Starting RG Brian Winters OUT for REST of Preseason. Will not Play until Week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Kinda knew that. Alarmed me when I didn't read it that carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 That's it. Darnold should NOT open the season as the starter. A shoddy OL is the only thing that can mess this up. THERE IS NO RUSH TO PLAY HIM. At least wait until whatever 5 guys are on the OL have some games to gel. It doesnt happen on a whim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 Jets RG Winters not expected to play til Wk 1 Jets RG Brian Winters (abdomen) isn't expected to play this preseason but anticipates being ready for Week 1. Winters tore his abdominal and abductor muscles in Week 2 last season but played through it before needing surgery at the end of the year. He's believed to be at or near 100 percent, but the Jets aren't pushing the veteran in meaningless preseason games. Winters signed a multi-year deal in January 2017. Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter Aug 15 - 1:23 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 The Jets' offensive line is the source of growing concern. Backup swing tackle Ben Ijalana was placed on injured reserve Wednesday after hurting a shoulder in joint practices with the Redskins. Starting LT Kelvin Beachum (foot) already is out and likely will miss the remainder of the preseason, leaving Brent Qvale as the current starter. He started last week's game, but he doesn't have the athleticism to play the left side. If he doesn't play well Thursday night, the Jets might have to shop for left-tackle insurance or maybe move Dakota Dozier to left tackle. By the way, RG Brian Winters is expected to miss the preseason with an undisclosed injury, the NFL Network reported. Imagine if this line has to protect a rookie QB. Uh, oh. To fill Ijalana's roster spot, the Jets signed veteran C Gino Gradkowski. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 I had to read that more carefully. I thought it said the rest of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 14 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: Jets RG Winters not expected to play til Wk 1 Jets RG Brian Winters (abdomen) isn't expected to play this preseason but anticipates being ready for Week 1. Winters tore his abdominal and abductor muscles in Week 2 last season but played through it before needing surgery at the end of the year. He's believed to be at or near 100 percent, but the Jets aren't pushing the veteran in meaningless preseason games. Winters signed a multi-year deal in January 2017. Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter Aug 15 - 1:23 PM So he'll be good to go for the season opener in Detroit then? This is just precautionary and injury wasn't reaggravated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Cockface. I ******* read it wrong. I was seeing a tombstone with Darnold name on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Let's be real. I'd put the odds at 50% he plays in one of the first two games this regular season. This just doesn't sound good. It was like hearing Carson Wentz's comments on NFL Network yesterday, "I'm pretty sure I'll be ready for Week 1." Yeah.....right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 People were complaining about Darnold going underneath too much and his low Y/A vs. Atlanta, bit this is why. He’s got to get rid of the ball quickly with the O line hurting. I expect a lot of bootleg passes tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 Dont worry fellas according to some fans there will be a gaggle of starting O lineman available after cuts are made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, Tony MaC said: So he'll be good to go for the season opener in Detroit then? This is just precautionary and injury wasn't reaggravated? Just percautionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Cockface. I ******* read it wrong. I was seeing a tombstone with Darnold name on it. It's my fault YOU ARE Illiterate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 25 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Let's be real. I'd put the odds at 50% he plays in one of the first two games this regular season. This just doesn't sound good. It was like hearing Carson Wentz's comments on NFL Network yesterday, "I'm pretty sure I'll be ready for Week 1." Yeah.....right I agree. It's not a good sign and indicates he may have this as a lingering issue that will nag him throughout the season. He played THROUGH the pain ALL of last season, that CAN'T be good for his body's long-term prospects, surgery be damned. 2/5 of the starting OLine are injured, one is a new FA signing, and the LG is an ill-fit for the scheme. DEFINITELY expose Darnold to 3 early games (one on MNF) behind WHATEVER the Oline ends up being spackled into by Opening Night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: Dont worry fellas according to some fans there will be a gaggle of starting O lineman available after cuts are made. that's how we landed Pete Kendall & Dave Szott back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted August 15, 2018 Author Share Posted August 15, 2018 40 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: By the way, RG Brian Winters is expected to miss the preseason with an undisclosed injury, the NFL Network reported. Imagine if this line has to protect a rookie QB. Uh, oh. To fill Ijalana's roster spot, the Jets signed veteran C Gino Gradkowski. 24 minutes ago, Tony MaC said: So he'll be good to go for the season opener in Detroit then? This is just precautionary and injury wasn't reaggravated? Cimini says he IS injured. Jets are "SAYING" it's "precautionary" the SAME way Terrell Pryor's ankle surgery in the Spring was a "cleanup" and not because it was "Broken" (per Pryor's statements tot the press and at the IRKING of Bowles) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 23 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: It's my fault YOU ARE Illiterate? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Brian Winters has been and is a total waste of time. Almost always hurt, and not that good when hes not. Looks the part, nothing more. Wasted pick. Matt Slauson was twice the player Winters is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Good let the backups get reps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Gas2No99 said: The Jets' offensive line is the source of growing concern. Backup swing tackle Ben Ijalana was placed on injured reserve Wednesday after hurting a shoulder in joint practices with the Redskins. Starting LT Kelvin Beachum (foot) already is out and likely will miss the remainder of the preseason, leaving Brent Qvale as the current starter. He started last week's game, but he doesn't have the athleticism to play the left side. If he doesn't play well Thursday night, the Jets might have to shop for left-tackle insurance or maybe move Dakota Dozier to left tackle. By the way, RG Brian Winters is expected to miss the preseason with an undisclosed injury, the NFL Network reported. Imagine if this line has to protect a rookie QB. Uh, oh. To fill Ijalana's roster spot, the Jets signed veteran C Gino Gradkowski. Unfortunately Your correct. Qvale played pretty well against the Falcons, but your right he just isn't athletic enough to play LT. He's also a guy, like Carpenter, who might be negatively affected by the switch to a zone blocking scheme. He's more of a mauler. The O L is becoming very concerning. IMO the original starters were good enough to be an average group. With the injuries it's getting scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Attention Mike Maccagnan The NY Jets need OL help and a pass rusher. GET TO WORK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Brian Winters has been and is a total waste of time. Almost always hurt, and not that good when hes not. Looks the part, nothing more. Wasted pick. Matt Slauson was twice the player Winters is. Exactly! What was he a 5th round pick? Shell a 5th or 6th also? Way to invest in the all important O line. Then we pick a project O lineman in the second round - Ducasse and he's starting for another team. Any AAU team or high School in Florida build their teams starting with the O Lineman. Not the Jets. I think they are just realizing now the importance of having a solid line - now that they have a 30million dollar asset to protect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 54 minutes ago, flgreen said: Unfortunately Your correct. Qvale played pretty well against the Falcons, but your right he just isn't athletic enough to play LT. He's also a guy, like Carpenter, who might be negatively affected by the switch to a zone blocking scheme. He's more of a mauler. The O L is becoming very concerning. IMO the original starters were good enough to be an average group. With the injuries it's getting scary. Not saying he will be just like him but Jason Fabini wasn’t athletic and was moved from RT to LT and played well for a period of time. Qvale and Fabini are similar body types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Took the caps out of the title because a few people, myself included, misread it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I know it doesn’t fit the youth movement narrative, but if it came down to it, there are some “last leg” players we could sign for the year: Khalif Barnes, Will Beatty, Eric Winston, Chris Hairston, Luke Joeckel, Jahri Evans, Alex Boone, Joe Berger, Zane Beadles... there’s others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 It is a little concerning that they signed a guy Could be Bowles is full of it Wouldn't surprise me if the stupid injury lingers again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, Larz said: It is a little concerning that they signed a guy Could be Bowles is full of it Wouldn't surprise me if the stupid injury lingers again Signed a guy to take Ijalanas roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, Greenseed4 said: Signed a guy to take Ijalanas roster spot. ^ a C that Dennison is familiar with; maybe Swanson could kick out to OT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: Signed a guy to take Ijalanas roster spot. I thought he was a career interior guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, Larz said: I thought he was a career interior guy Maybe the new center is the goods? Dennison would know, he coached him for two years. I misspoke above, I meant to say Travis Long, the dude is 6’5, 320... maybe he could kick out to tackle in a pinch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Greenseed4 said: ^ a C that Dennison is familiar with; maybe Swanson could kick out to OT? Swanson is a career center Maybe the Jets don't like the center group like at all lol Neither guy has ever played tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Just now, Greenseed4 said: Maybe the new center is the goods? Dennison would know, he coached him for two years. I misspoke above, I meant to say Travis Long, the dude is 6’5, 320... maybe he could kick out to tackle in a pinch? Swanson is also tall, but never played out there I think Dennison just hates Harrison and Swanson lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 I think Ben Braden either steps up at LT, they try Qvale or go get a guy in the minidraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Larz said: Swanson is also tall, but never played out there I think Dennison just hates Harrison and Swanson lol Yep. I just looked it up, neither new guy has experience (college, or pros) at OT. We’re doomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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