faba Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 All indications are he can handle it- do not expect perfection though so if and when he makes mistakes live with it as learning experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar38 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 On 8/23/2018 at 6:10 AM, Jet Nut said: What's you're criteria for beating him out? You're at every practice? There isn't a clear cut reason to start Teddy. This is Darnolds team and he's done nothi to lose his job. Bowles isn't getting fired if the team plays hard and smart and loses a few more games because of "rookie growing pains" at QB. This team isn't expected, nor should it be, to win this season. Let Darnold go through those growing pains, let him learn and be on his way when the team is more complete next season. It's fans and teams with your mind set are why most highly drafted QBs fail. You say it's his team? How? He is a rookie! When did this team become his? When he was drafted? Because he showed you he knows the playbook in a football camp?Really? How about beating the people in front of him out for the job and winning football games. You and people like you want to put the weight of a bad team on the shoulders of a rookie who has done nothing in the NFL yet and expect him to be your savior. This is why by far most highly drafted QBs fail. Just because he showed a little here and there in football practice and two vanilla games you have gifted him the team. Good luck with that.I don't like gifting rookie QBs the starting spot.Especially on a team that has had not much success in a long time,it's just to much to put on a rookie. Of coarse this fan base has already penciled him in as being a future great so they already know he can handle it. So did all the other fan bases with failed high picks who were gifted starting jobs,they thought the same thing and only a small few of them turned out to be right. I don't like those odds. Give me a healthy already proven Teddy who can win games now, who knows,he did take the losing vikings to the playoffs maybe he can do the same. I think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, omar38 said: It's fans and teams with your mind set are why most highly drafted QBs fail. You say it's his team? How? He is a rookie! When did this team become his? When he was drafted? Because he showed you he knows the playbook in a football camp?Really? How about beating the people in front of him out for the job and winning football games. You and people like you want to put the weight of a bad team on the shoulders of a rookie who has done nothing in the NFL yet and expect him to be your savior. This is why by far most highly drafted QBs fail. Just because he showed a little here and there in football practice and two vanilla games you have gifted him the team. Good luck with that.I don't like gifting rookie QBs the starting spot.Especially on a team that has had not much success in a long time,it's just to much to put on a rookie. Of coarse this fan base has already penciled him in as being a future great so they already know he can handle it. So did all the other fan bases with failed high picks who were gifted starting jobs,they thought the same thing and only a small few of them turned out to be right. I don't like those odds. Give me a healthy already proven Teddy who can win games now, who knows,he did take the losing vikings to the playoffs maybe he can do the same. I think so. Teddy Bridgewater, the 32nd pick of his respective draft, started 12 games his rookie season. According to you, he turned out fantastic! Yet, somehow, a QB selected #3 overall (widely considered to be the top prospect in the draft) will potentially fail if he starts on opening day. Interesting take. You think Teddy gets the Vikings to the playoffs in his second season if he doesn't start three-quarters of his rookie season? I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 On 8/23/2018 at 5:41 AM, Dunnie said: Yes but Teddy has been better. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Playing against third stringers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar38 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, slats said: Teddy Bridgewater, the 32nd pick of his respective draft, started 12 games his rookie season. According to you, he turned out fantastic! Yet, somehow, a QB selected #3 overall (widely considered to be the top prospect in the draft) will potentially fail if he starts on opening day. Interesting take. You think Teddy gets the Vikings to the playoffs in his second season if he doesn't start three-quarters of his rookie season? I don't. Teddy was not gifted the starting job that is why he has 12 games his rookie year and not 16. As I said it's very rare for a highly drafted QB to succeed, the chips are further stacked against them when they are gifted starting jobs especially on bad teams. I'm not making this up just look at history. For every Cam Newton there are ton of other guys who fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 14 minutes ago, omar38 said: Teddy was not gifted the starting job that is why he has 12 games his rookie year and not 16. As I said it's very rare for a highly drafted QB to succeed, the chips are further stacked against them when they are gifted starting jobs especially on bad teams. I'm not making this up just look at history. For every Cam Newton there are ton of other guys who fail. You're sorta making it up. The last decade or so, top drafted QBs are doing pretty damn well. And you didn't answer my question: Do you think Bridgewater gets the Vikes to their one & done playoff performance in his sophomore season if he didn't have those 12 starts under his belt as a rookie? Darnold is the future of this team. That's pretty obvious. If the Jets are gonna compete for a playoff spot in 2019, when Teddy is long gone, they're going to need Darnold playing at a high level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 1 hour ago, slats said: Teddy Bridgewater, the 32nd pick of his respective draft, started 12 games his rookie season. According to you, he turned out fantastic! Yet, somehow, a QB selected #3 overall (widely considered to be the top prospect in the draft) will potentially fail if he starts on opening day. Interesting take. You think Teddy gets the Vikings to the playoffs in his second season if he doesn't start three-quarters of his rookie season? I don't. All these doomsayers never talk about all the QBs who were thrown right into it and had great success. Just the ones who struggled. Says something about the personality of the poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 3 hours ago, omar38 said: It's fans and teams with your mind set are why most highly drafted QBs fail. You say it's his team? How? He is a rookie! When did this team become his? When he was drafted? Because he showed you he knows the playbook in a football camp?Really? How about beating the people in front of him out for the job and winning football games. You and people like you want to put the weight of a bad team on the shoulders of a rookie who has done nothing in the NFL yet and expect him to be your savior. This is why by far most highly drafted QBs fail. Just because he showed a little here and there in football practice and two vanilla games you have gifted him the team. Good luck with that.I don't like gifting rookie QBs the starting spot.Especially on a team that has had not much success in a long time,it's just to much to put on a rookie. Of coarse this fan base has already penciled him in as being a future great so they already know he can handle it. So did all the other fan bases with failed high picks who were gifted starting jobs,they thought the same thing and only a small few of them turned out to be right. I don't like those odds. Give me a healthy already proven Teddy who can win games now, who knows,he did take the losing vikings to the playoffs maybe he can do the same. I think so. Because that rookie had outplayed your guy. Because he had more talent. Because his leg isn't guaranteed to make it through a handful of games. Because he was drafted to lead this team, not backup Teddy. Need more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 NEW YORK JETS Jets QB report card after training camp: How did Sam Darnold, Teddy Bridgewater, Josh McCown perform? Posted August 23, 2018 at 07:00 AM | Updated August 23, 2018 at 07:08 AM By Darryl Slater | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com The Jets on Wednesday concluded training camp, so let's bring you our final quarterback report card of camp, including Sam Darnold, Josh McCown and Teddy Bridgewater. How did they perform? Let's take a look. MCCOWN'S FINAL STATS 279 reps 243 with starters 107-of-155 passing (69 percent) Seven touchdowns Two interceptions MCCOWN'S HIGHLIGHTS He was his usual steady, reliable self. Didn't have a lot of miscues in training camp. But the Jets obviously wanted to give a lot more reps to Darnold, since they have invested a ton in him as their potential future franchise quarterback. MCCOWN'S LOWLIGHTS Unless Darnold is a complete disaster against the Giants, or he gets hurt, McCown isn't going to start in Week 1, really through no fault of his own. At his age (39), he just can't make a lot of the sideline throws that Darnold can. Darnold is simply better and younger and an actual part of the Jets' future (which isn't the case with McCown). McCown's reps have basically been non-existent in practice lately. MCCOWN'S FINAL CAMP GRADE GRADE: B+ ANALYSIS: We can't crush him over not being the starting quarterback (or presumptive starting quarterback). He did a fine job in this training camp. And he has been a solid mentor for Darnold, which is important. BRIDGEWATER'S FINAL STATS 497 reps 94 with starters 172-of-269 passing (63.9 percent) 10 touchdowns Three interceptions BRIDGEWATER'S HIGHLIGHTS He answered any questions about his surgically repaired knee. While scrambling and getting hit (in preseason games), he has looked plenty steady. He proved that he can still play at this level, with some degree of success, at least. Overall, this was a very positive camp for Bridgewater. BRIDGEWATER'S LOWLIGHTS He had some hiccups earlier in training camp, in terms of accuracy. And he just doesn't have the zip to the sideline with his passes that Darnold has. Bridgewater can still be a serviceable starter in the NFL, but he probably isn't a star. Not to say Darnold definitely will be a star, but he has more upside, clearly. BRIDGEWATER'S FINAL CAMP GRADE GRADE: A- ANALYSIS: Bridgewater did his part. He proved that he could still play at this level. Now, the Jets just need a starting quarterback to get hurt elsewhere, in order to drive up the trade demand price for Bridgewater. It doesn't make much sense for the Jets to trade Bridgewater for backup quarterback-level compensation. DARNOLD'S FINAL STATS 479 reps 234 with starters 164-of-258 passing (63.6 percent) 21 touchdowns Five interceptions DARNOLD'S HIGHLIGHTS He wasn't flawless in this training camp. But he was composed and reacted well under pressure for a 21-year-old rookie. He doesn't look lost. Far from it. He throws well on the run, particularly on roll-out plays to his right. So expect the Jets to make that a large part of their offense with him as the starting quarterback. DARNOLD'S LOWLIGHTS One of the big questions left with Darnold: Can he consistently and accurately throw the deep ball? The Jets' West Coast offense under Jeremy Bates might not demand a lot of this from him. But it is a lingering question about Darnold, since he hasn't really shown the ability to do this often and well in the preseason so far. DID DARNOLD SHOW PROGRESS? Absolutely. He showed up and hit the ground running despite missing the first three training camp practices. He impressed Bates with his ability to master the playbook so quickly. And when he made a mistake, he rebounded quickly. That is huge for any rookie quarterback — how he responds to adversity and hectic situations. IS HE ON TRACK TO START IN WEEK 1? Yes. Unless Darnold gets hurt Friday night against the Giants or lays a huge egg, he likely will be the Jets' starting quarterback in Week 1 at the Lions. DARNOLD'S FINAL CAMP GRADE GRADE: A- ANALYSIS: Again, not flawless. But pretty darn impressive. Darnold, so far, has lived up to his draft status. Now, let's see him do it when it actually matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, omar38 said: Teddy was not gifted the starting job that is why he has 12 games his rookie year and not 16. As I said it's very rare for a highly drafted QB to succeed, the chips are further stacked against them when they are gifted starting jobs especially on bad teams. I'm not making this up just look at history. For every Cam Newton there are ton of other guys who fail. So he couldn't beat out M Cassel or C Ponder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, slats said: You're sorta making it up. The last decade or so, top drafted QBs are doing pretty damn well. And you didn't answer my question: Do you think Bridgewater gets the Vikes to their one & done playoff performance in his sophomore season if he didn't have those 12 starts under his belt as a rookie? Darnold is the future of this team. That's pretty obvious. If the Jets are gonna compete for a playoff spot in 2019, when Teddy is long gone, they're going to need Darnold playing at a high level. This is the year to get the kinks out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Instead of neg repping everything answer @omar38. Did Teddy beat out Cassel? Ponder? What? You neg rep a pasted article of the QB stats from camp? Are you this lame in real life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar38 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: Instead of neg repping everything answer @omar38. Did Teddy beat out Cassel? Ponder? What? You neg rep a pasted article of the QB stats from camp? Are you this lame in real life? No need to feel butt hurt it's just a down vote on a forum. I didn't agree with you that's all. They allow us to do that here. No need to resort to name calls. Why so serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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