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Herald: Mangini not ready

By Craig Thomas

Date: Jan 15, 2006

Michael Felger covers the New England Patriots for the Boston Herald. He knows a lot more about Eric Mangini than reporters in New York who are annointing him the next big thing.

"Is Eric Mangini ready? Is he even that good? wrote Felger about the leading candidate for the Jets opening. "How would anyone from the outside have any idea?

"The uncertainty surrounding the Patriots young defensive coordinator is considerable, but that

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The Pats defense even last night looked pretty good. But for 2 special teams fumbles and Brady pissing the bed, the defense would've come close. And unless Mangini is violating Bellichick's rules neither of these guys has spoken to Mangini at length. You have to keep in mind that as successful as the pats have been Bellichick and the Pats treat the media like a communicable disease. Sometimes after having 5 years of Sperm feed Canizzaro twinkies for 2 hours a day instead of doing his job we forget that real coaches generally operate closer to the Pats model.

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There have been guys that are prepared until they are 55 that wind up being terrible HC's. Then there are guys that are great at 35 without very little training. It is like promoting a super worker to supervisor. They are two totally different positions. The super worker does everything himself - that's why he is super. The super supervisor is a master at delegating his work and motivating.

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The Pats defense even last night looked pretty good. But for 2 special teams fumbles and Brady pissing the bed, the defense would've come close. And unless Mangini is violating Bellichick's rules neither of these guys has spoken to Mangini at length. You have to keep in mind that as successful as the pats have been Bellichick and the Pats treat the media like a communicable disease. Sometimes after having 5 years of Sperm feed Canizzaro twinkies for 2 hours a day instead of doing his job we forget that real coaches generally operate closer to the Pats model.

Ill take it one step further and say the Pats defense was excellent lastnight. They stiffled the denver running game and had horrible field position all night. All of the Broncos scores were setup by turnovers in the Pats zone and the asante samuel PIT call was brutal.

Lastnight was exactly what i wanted to see; a pats loss and their defense/mangini impress me.

THe Pats D was certainly good enough to win lastnight.

Yea, Mangini may not be ready and Tice, Fassell, Sherman and Haslett all suck.

Ill take my chances.

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When the game was still in play, the 2 Broncos' TD drives traveled around 41 yards, 30+ of such yards aided by the phantom Samuel call. They stopped the Broncos first several drives cold.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/drivechart?gameId=260114007

This was a pretty solid job. Not their fault that Brady made a mess. And think of the adujustements they made week to week-they went blitz happy last week vs. the Jags, barely blitzed at all last night.

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How can you say the Pats D looked good last night? Yes, the Pats turned the ball over several times, but did the Pats D stop them when they needed to?

Sounds to me like some of us are trying to build a case for Mangini more than anything.

1 score was set up by baileys INT return to the 1. Its pretty hard to ask a defense to stop a top notch offense 4 times from the 1 wouldnt you say?

Another scores was set up by a brutal PIT call on asante samuel that set up another easy, 1 yard score.

Another score was set up by troy browns fumble somewhere around the 20? I cant remember.

Thats 21 points for you right there.

The Broncos were nvver able to sustain a long drive on the pats lastnight, and there were a lot of times they received good field position and the pats forced them to punt or got a turnover.

Considering the circumstances, the Pats D played very well lastnight.

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QUICK SHOTS

Is Eric Mangini ready to be an NFL head coach?

January 15, 2006

NICK CAFARDO

Eric Mangini was born to be a head coach. Forget his age (35 as of Thursday). He's wise beyond his years. Anyway, coaches have told me that you're never completely ready for your first job, whether you're 35 or 55. It's trial and error until you develop your system and organizational philosophy. Everything is in place for him to succeed with the Jets. One of his best friends is Jets capologist Mike Tannenbaum. He can hire Rob Ryan, whose contract expired in Oakland, as defensive coordinator. There's not much rebuilding to be done. Unless he's been promised the Patriots job in a year or two, taking this job would be a no-brainer.

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Sure. Take Eagles head coach Andy Reid as an example. He's done OK for himself, but when he was hired in 1999, he had exactly zero years as an NFL coordinator on his resume. It's not so much holding the coordinator position as much as it is being an integral part of a successful system. Just as Reid was part of the successful Mike Holmgren coaching tree, Mangini has learned from one of the best coaches in the game, Bill Belichick. Ten years under Belichick has to count for something. While it won't necessarily make Mangini a great head coach, it certainly qualifies him as ready if the Jets offer him the job.

DAN SHAUGHNESSY

Why not Mangini? It's not as if he'll be following Amos Alonzo Stagg in Jetland. Other teams no doubt want to take a piece of the Patriots' magic; we saw it with Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis getting head jobs last year. Same with Scott Pioli. None of us knows whether Mangini is ready, but a lot of guys who are supposed to be ready manage to fail in the NFL. This won't be the last time rivals try to harvest New England's brainpower. Think how much Patriots assistants would be in demand if they were allowed to speak.

RON BORGES

It is impossible to know how effective any coach will be once he ascends to a head position in the NFL. Mangini is considered one of the brightest young minds in coaching, but his lack of experience running a full operation would complicate the job's inherent difficulties. So it might well be a bit too soon for him to take that step. Having said that, it should be noted that in 1969 a 32-year-old guy with no head coaching experience in the NFL or at a major college program named John Madden became head coach of the Oakland Raiders. In his first year, he went 12-1-1 and won a division title and Coach of the Year honors.

JEROME SOLOMON

Without question, Eric Mangini isn't ready to be an NFL head coach. After one year leading a defense, he hasn't been in charge long enough to be ready to face the challenges a head coach does on a daily basis. Plus, he is such a good coach that taking his hands off, which is what will happen as a head coach, wouldn't be the best use of his skills. That said, ready or not, Mangini will do well as a head coach. It'll take him some time to get accustomed to the position, but he's a smart guy, he knows how to get effort from players, and he has had the best example of how to get it done by working next to Bill Belichick for so long.

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How can you say the Pats D looked good last night? Yes, the Pats turned the ball over several times, but did the Pats D stop them when they needed to?

Sounds to me like some of us are trying to build a case for Mangini more than anything.

Not for nothing, but the Broncos had two drives start at the Pats one yard line, and got away with ten points. That kinda skews things. The Broncos had two long drives of 60 yards in the fourth. Which only got them ten points.

To say the Pats D didn't show up is laughable. While they didn't have their best game, they had a damn good one yet. It kind of reminds me of the Jets, from earlier in the season, where the offense just couldn't get anything done, and the defense, eventually, broke.

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Like much of Bsoton sportwriters, Ron Borges hates Bellichick and the Pats. Dan Shaughnessy is a frizzy-haired loser. I have nothing to add about Jerry Solomon.

Anything written by Ron Borges and Nick Carfardo should be thrown out with the garbage.

Mangini is 35 years old. He has one year of DC under his belt. These things will be said. It's a risk, but a good one, IMO. Jets must be certain to get a seasoned OC, however. Mangini has never done anything without BB....and, I think, he will need to lean on someone with a lot of NFL experience.

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