PatsFanTX Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Smizz, potential starter? Where? If Minny starts Cowart, God help them. All this does is keep us from cutting Cowart. Zero value, pimp-juice. And based on the Jets success rate over the last 10 years with their 7th round selections it comes out to exactly the same thing. Zero value, pimp-juice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Nonsense. That's Jets FO talk. If you are giving a potential starter away ,he's got value,a little anyway. The Pats could trade a fart and get 4th rd pick for it. The Jets can't get 75 Cents on the dollar. Our farts smell better though. The Vikes can see Barton, Vilma and Hobson as the Jets future and Cowart being less and less of a factor everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxJet Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Jets | Seventh-round Selection Acquired for Cowart - from www.KFFL.com Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:37:22 -0800 Updating previous reports, the Minnesota Vikings sent a seventh-round draft selection in the 2005 NFL Draft to the New York Jets in exchange for MLB Sam Cowart. Vikings | Team Steals Cowart with Seventh-round Pick - from www.KFFL.com Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:32:45 -0800 Updating previous reports, the Minnesota Vikings sent a seventh-round draft selection in the 2005 NFL Draft to the New York Jets in exchange for MLB Sam Cowart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormshadow19 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Cowart wasn't going to do much in New York, except complain, so it's a good deal. And, it should put some cap relief on to sign more free agents. That being said, I think if you think the Jets are going to sign anyone huge, you're off your rocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 18, 2005 Author Share Posted March 18, 2005 Smizz, potential starter? Where? If Minny starts Cowart, God help them. All this does is keep us from cutting Cowart. Zero value, pimp-juice. For the Vikes. The guy was the starter here untill he got hurt,to say he's not starter material is again ,bullsh!t. He was 5x's better than Mo & Marvin and they started for 2 years to many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 For the Vikes. The guy was the starter here untill he got hurt,to say he's not starter material is again ,bullsh!t. He was 5x's better than Mo & Marvin and they started for 2 years to many. Hey Smizz, I just got off the phone with BB and said he offered the Jets a 3rd rounder for Cowert because of the Pats LB problems. He said Bradway said "Screw you, the last thing that I want to see happen is Cowert go to the Pats, make the Pro Bowl and get a Super Bowl ring". :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscott Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 7th round pick? what the hell is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 7th round pick? what the hell is that? The pick after the 6th round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscott Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 The pick after the 6th round. thanks for clearing that up einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 7th round pick? what the hell is that? At least it was not an 8th round pick, that would have been embarassing. If it makes you feel better, the Patriots once drafted the same player twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4HCrew Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 I do not care what his value is to the Jets, it is what you are giving the Vikes. Pure stupidity..at least get a 5th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YJF Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Cowart is a backup MLB who is 30 years old coming off an injury, who is scheduled to make 1.5 million and get a roster bonus in June. It was either CUT COWART IN JUNE OR GET A DRAFT PICK FOR HIM. Those were the options. The Jets killed a few birds with one stone. They got rid of Cowart and his salary, got a draft pick in return and kept him out of the division. Did The Saints get anything for Tebucky Jones? When teams know that you are going to cut somebody. It's very hard to get anything back. Pats could have held on To Ty Law and tested the market to see if any teams would cough up a couple of picks. They just cut bait completely. Jets cut bait and got themselves an extra pick. No biggie here. Cowart was a goner. Either way, you slice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Cowart is a backup MLB who is 30 years old coming off an injury, who is scheduled to make 1.5 million and get a roster bonus in June. It was either CUT COWART IN JUNE OR GET A DRAFT PICK FOR HIM. Those were the options. The Jets killed a few birds with one stone. They got rid of Cowart and his salary, got a draft pick in return and kept him out of the division. Did The Saints get anything for Tebucky Jones? When teams know that you are going to cut somebody. It's very hard to get anything back. Pats could have held on To Ty Law and tested the market to see if any teams would cough up a couple of picks. They just cut bait completely. Jets cut bait and got themselves an extra pick. No biggie here. Cowart was a goner. Either way, you slice it. Now that is what you call an outstanding, fact-based post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 18, 2005 Author Share Posted March 18, 2005 Now that is what you call an outstanding, fact-based post. Did you expect anything less from the kid? YJF is one of the more reasonable posters around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YJF Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Thanks TX and Smizz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted March 18, 2005 Share Posted March 18, 2005 Cowart is about as expendable as any player we had. Goodbye, you sucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimfire Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I sort of agree with the kid. If it frees up $$$$ terry is probaly waiting to pick up a biggie roster cut later on after eveybody has spent their money. We'll swoop in and land a stud. They always come late and we never seem to be in a position to do anything. Maybe Terrys getting clever. I'm goona give him the benefit of the doubt on this one till it all shakes out. He may know of someone thats gonna be cut. Then again they are the jets........... not sure where we stand on the salary cap.... young stud have the numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxJet Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Jets | Vilma Made Cowart Expendable - from www.KFFL.com Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:58:29 -0800 Rich Cimini, of the New York Daily News, reports former New York Jets LB Sam Cowart - who was traded to the Minnesota Vikings - became expendable because of the emergence of MLB Jonathan Vilma. Vilma took over his starting job due to a knee injury and never looked back. Jets | Cowart Leaves Dead Money against Cap - from www.KFFL.com Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:58:17 -0800 Rich Cimini, of the New York Daily News, reports the New York Jets will carry $2.4 million in "dead money" against their 2005 salary cap as a result of trading MLB Sam Cowart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonEJet Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Jets | Cowart Leaves Dead Money against Cap - from www.KFFL.com Sat, 19 Mar 2005 08:58:17 -0800 Rich Cimini, of the New York Daily News, reports the New York Jets will carry $2.4 million in "dead money" against their 2005 salary cap as a result of trading MLB Sam Cowart. At that point, when he costs us that much dead space, why not keep him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 an article said that he was supposed to make 2.9 towards the cap in 2005, this deal makes it 2.4 dead money towards the cap so we save .5 million a 7th rd pick for a starting middle linebacker who is only 30 years old, good deal terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 an article said that he was supposed to make 2.9 towards the cap in 2005, this deal makes it 2.4 dead money towards the cap so we save .5 million a 7th rd pick for a starting middle linebacker who is only 30 years old, good deal terry A 30 year old LB who had 2 horrible seasons after rupturing his achilles and then followed that up by lasting 2 games before getting injured again. While you may think he's worth something more, the fact is he isn't. He is and has been a mere shell of his old self in BUF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomShane Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Sounds to me like they're clearing the house of people who aren't with Donnie's program. IMO, that's the reason you see this type of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 A 30 year old LB who had 2 horrible seasons after rupturing his achilles and then followed that up by lasting 2 games before getting injured again. While you may think he's worth something more, the fact is he isn't. He is and has been a mere shell of his old self in BUF. nevertheless, the vikings said he will START at middle linebacker, a starting middle linebacler is worth more than aa 7th rd pick and it wasn't even the vikings highest 7th rd pick they got from the raiders, we got the vikings original 7th rd pick!! :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
124 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 We get back more cap room to hopefully sign a June 1st cut CB / OT or possibly even Ty Law. We also get a 7th round pick which yes it is a 7th round pick but Jason Ferguson was picked in the 7th was he not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 We get back more cap room to hopefully sign a June 1st cut CB / OT or possibly even Ty Law. We also get a 7th round pick which yes it is a 7th round pick but Jason Ferguson was picked in the 7th was he not? So we get cap room to sign Ty law??? the ****ing guy who can't even walk yet? No thanks. Anybody who thinks ty law will retun to form is mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 nevertheless, the vikings said he will START at middle linebacker, a starting middle linebacler is worth more than aa 7th rd pick and it wasn't even the vikings highest 7th rd pick they got from the raiders, we got the vikings original 7th rd pick!! :twisted: 31 other teams in the NFL had absolutely zero interest in the guy. Fat Teddy has an infatuation with him so let it be. He may start for the Vikes, but that really isn't saying much. If he starts full time he'll last about 2 games or he'll play like a mediocre LB. again, there was zero interest from any other team!! None, zip, nada. The only man on the planet willing to lobby to give up picks is Ted Cotrell. Not one other DC in the league did that. We either get a 7th, or we cut him before the bonus was due. Take what you can get for a has been injury prone LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 31 other teams in the NFL had absolutely zero interest in the guy. Fat Teddy has an infatuation with him so let it be. He may start for the Vikes, but that really isn't saying much. If he starts full time he'll last about 2 games or he'll play like a mediocre LB. again, there was zero interest from any other team!! None, zip, nada. The only man on the planet willing to lobby to give up picks is Ted Cotrell. Not one other DC in the league did that. We either get a 7th, or we cut him before the bonus was due. Take what you can get for a has been injury prone LB. How do you know that? Mediocre?? He led the team in tackles and carried Mo and Marvins sorry asses all while playing out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 How do you know that? Mediocre?? He led the team in tackles and carried Mo and Marvins sorry asses all while playing out of position. I doubt 30 year old LBers who have missed significant portions of two of the previous four seasons draw much interest. The Vikings did you a favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 I doubt 30 year old LBers who have missed significant portions of two of the previous four seasons draw much interest. The Vikings did you a favor. I doubt it too but we will never know for sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PFSIKH Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I doubt it too but we will never know for sure? I know one thing, Jeter sucks. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 19, 2005 Author Share Posted March 19, 2005 & Schilling is a drama queen , Bullsh!t artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 I doubt 30 year old LBers who have missed significant portions of two of the previous four seasons draw much interest. The Vikings did you a favor. why are you dissing rosey colvin?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boozer76 Posted March 20, 2005 Share Posted March 20, 2005 I doubt it too but we will never know for sure? We could have found out for sure. Release him before the cap hit, and watch as MIN is the only one to pursue him actively. Would other teams had interest in him as a FA, sure. But they ould have looked at him as a back up. And they would have paid much less for him than we were about to. The 7th rounder was the best we were going to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetgreen13 Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 I know one thing, Jeter sucks. :wink:schilling is the biggest gloryhound in baseball. (no wink!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smizzy Posted March 21, 2005 Author Share Posted March 21, 2005 We could have found out for sure. Release him before the cap hit, and watch as MIN is the only one to pursue him actively. Would other teams had interest in him as a FA, sure. But they ould have looked at him as a back up. And they would have paid much less for him than we were about to. The 7th rounder was the best we were going to get. They just demoted Ej Henderson and gave Cowart the starting job in minny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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