kelly Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 The Worst Trade For Every NFL Team In History https://nflmocks.com/2018/09/06/the-worst-trade-for-every-nfl-team-in-history/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 8, 2018 Author Share Posted September 8, 2018 re Trade dept. - Is it realistic for Jets to make a run at Le'Veon Bell ? http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/77270 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RoadFan Posted September 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2018 I think the "trading back 20 spots" plus or minus whatever it was for Doug Jolley is arguably worse than sending Vilma to New Orleans. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Trading up for mark Sanchez 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetsFanatic Posted September 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2018 All this pales in comparison to 1976 when the Jets let Hall Of Famer John Riggins go for nothing. Part stupidity; part bad luck. There was no Free agency in the NFL till 1993 except for 1976. The NFLPA and NFL were in a prolonged contract dispute, since there was no CBA a judge ruled that any player without a contract was a free agent. Unfortunately John Riggins was one of those players. Weeb Eubank was a good HC (but a cheap GM) who retired as HC after the 1973 season but stayed on as GM till 1976. Ewbank refused to budge and the Redskins signed Riggins. That by far was the worst personnel move in Jets history. Much worse than O'Brien over Marino or any other poor draft decision because we had Riggins for 4 seasons and knew how good he was! 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Doug jolley. Hahahahaha. Vilma was a limited player who could only excell is a certain scheme. We didnt run that scheme anymore so I dont agree with that being a bad trade. You csnt judge these trades in a vacuum. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted September 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2018 Vilma trade should not be in the discussion. In addition to Jolley, here are a couple that come to mind. - Dewayne Robertson. Two 1s and a 4. For Robertson. Vilma is not even if the same stratosphere as this one. - Lam Jones. Two 1s for a track star who could not run routes and had bad handls. - 1997 trading back out of 1 overall and taking James Farrior. Nice player (for Pittsburgh), but we traded back from 1 to 6 and again to 8. And all we added were some 3s and 4s. HOFer Orlando Pace went 1. HOFer Walter Jones went 6. We ended up with Farrior, Terry Day, Dedric Ward and Leon Johnson. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 59 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Trading up for mark Sanchez While Sanchez did work out for us, the facts are that we didn't trade all that (to move up) much for him. So this hardly falls under the worst trades ever banner. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Although not a trade or blown draft pick but the early 2000's bothered me. To lose and let Kareem McKenzie walk as a FA was a criminal act only for him to then win two SB rings with our resident neighbors from 2005-2011. Imagine us with him during our 2009-2010 run(s). Also early 2000's (03') to lost both of Laveranues Coles and Randy Thomas to the "Jetskins" (Morton/Hall) felt criminal only to then have to trade away our electric Santana Moss in a trade for Coles in return? I absolutely hated those Front Office moves surrounding Chad Pennington and Curtis Martin. And Curtis Conway (2003) was an epic drop of the ball. And to save the worst for last of the early 2000's it bothered me knowing how drafted James Farrior 8th overall of the 199 draft only to see him instantly become a Steelers household name and Pittsburgh legendary LB throughout 2002-2011. Imagine having James Farrior amd Kareem McKenzie during 2009 we would've beaten that Indianapolis Colts team up and spit then out with physicality. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, LIJetsFan said: While Sanchez did work out for us, the facts are that we didn't trade all that (to move up) much for him. So this hardly falls under the worst trades ever banner. I would definitely say he didn’t worked out for us. We had the number 1 D in nfl, one of best OL, good recieving corps, only thing holding us back was piss poor qb play.. Imagine if we signed a jag to equal his play and use that number 6 pick on say a pass rushing stud, ect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RoadFan Posted September 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Trading up for mark Sanchez I knew somebody would erroneously mention this. Mark didn't pan out. But the Jets gave up basically nothing to move up to #5, and it was well worth the attempt to acquire a franchise QB. 6 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, RoadFan said: I knew somebody would erroneously mention this. Mark didn't pan out. But the Jets gave up basically nothing to move up to #5, and it was well worth the attempt to acquire a franchise QB. What nothing did we give up to move from 18? to 6th? We basically threw away a prime 1st and whatever picks we have to move up, for a raw rookie qb Who needed to be carried by a very win now team. So yes factor in we could have signed ANYONE to play Better and just ride the best D, rushing team in nfl and use those picks on supplemented immediate impact players. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Jetsplayer21 said: What nothing did we give up to move from 18? to 6th? We basically threw away a prime 1st and whatever picks we have to move up, for a raw rookie qb Who needed to be carried by a very win now team. So yes factor in we could have signed ANYONE to play Better and just ride the best D, rushing team in nfl and use those picks on supplemented immediate impact players. They moved up 12 spots from #17 to #5 by giving up a late 2nd round pick and three useless players. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Doesn't the fact that nobody agrees with you drop a hint that something is amiss? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beerfish Posted September 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2018 The trade up for Sanchez was one of the best trades of all time, the player himself sucked but what we gave up to move up to 5 was brilliant. 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 14 hours ago, RoadFan said: They moved up 12 spots from #17 to #5 by giving up a late 2nd round pick and three useless players. You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Doesn't the fact that nobody agrees with you drop a hint that something is amiss? Lol riggght.. says you roadboy. You really honestly think mark Sanchez was a good Trade ? I have yet to see “ everyone “ disagree with me as you wrongly claim ?♂️ 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElBarrioJets Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Lol riggght.. says you roadboy. You really honestly think mark Sanchez was a good Trade ? I have yet to see “ everyone “ disagree with me as you wrongly claim ?♂️ I agree, your point is truly dumb. Sanchez was a swing and a miss in 2009. Put together a few good years and fizzled out. They gave up nothing to get him and were universally praised for doing so. In the grand scheme of Jets' moves, that's a rarity. Babe Ruth to Boston that trade was not. With such a long history of sh*t, you're going to crap all over the time we came pretty damn close to getting it right? Dumb. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bla bla bla Posted September 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Lol riggght.. says you roadboy. You really honestly think mark Sanchez was a good Trade ? I have yet to see “ everyone “ disagree with me as you wrongly claim ?♂️ To roll the dice on a franchise QB that was a deal I’d make 100x over. There is literally zero reason to be upset with that trade. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 48 minutes ago, ElBarrioJets said: I agree, your point is truly dumb. Sanchez was a swing and a miss in 2009. Put together a few good years and fizzled out. They gave up nothing to get him and were universally praised for doing so. In the grand scheme of Jets' moves, that's a rarity. Babe Ruth to Boston that trade was not. With such a long history of sh*t, you're going to crap all over the time we came pretty damn close to getting it right? Dumb. Well we swung and missed. That is the point. You proved the stupidity of your post. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 19 hours ago, Lith said: Vilma trade should not be in the discussion. In addition to Jolley, here are a couple that come to mind. - Dewayne Robertson. Two 1s and a 4. For Robertson. Vilma is not even if the same stratosphere as this one. - Lam Jones. Two 1s for a track star who could not run routes and had bad handls. - 1997 trading back out of 1 overall and taking James Farrior. Nice player (for Pittsburgh), but we traded back from 1 to 6 and again to 8. And all we added were some 3s and 4s. HOFer Orlando Pace went 1. HOFer Walter Jones went 6. We ended up with Farrior, Terry Day, Dedric Ward and Leon Johnson. Say what you want about the genius of Parcells, but the man flat out STUNK at drafting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 44 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: To roll the dice on a franchise QB that was a deal I’d make 100x over. There is literally zero reason to be upset with that trade. Lol aw another mark Sanchez fan boy ? we were a “win now “ team with a short window. That was reality. Most fans live in “ fantasy” I agree any other years besides 09/10 you roll the dice on a franchise qb. Since we have had very few “ win now “ teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 20 hours ago, RoadFan said: I think the "trading back 20 spots" plus or minus whatever it was for Doug Jolley is arguably worse than sending Vilma to New Orleans. If we had just stayed put, we could have had Heath Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenWhite Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 The Doug Jolley trade was compounded by the fact they took a kicker with one of their 2nd round picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Riggins was easily worst trade for Jets!!Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, CanadaSteve said: Say what you want about the genius of Parcells, but the man flat out STUNK at drafting. He was a outstanding coach, one of best ever. But like most coaches he had no business playing pretend gm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenWhite Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 15 hours ago, Beerfish said: The trade up for Sanchez was one of the best trades of all time, the player himself sucked but what we gave up to move up to 5 was brilliant. 2-8 that year were busts Jason Smith Tyson Jackson Aaron Curry Mark Sanchez Andre Smith Heyward Bey Eugene Monroe Cleveland actually made out trading back twice and ending up with Alex Mack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 22 hours ago, JetsFanatic said: Much worse than O'Brien over Marino or any other poor draft decision because we had Riggins for 4 seasons and knew how good he was! Man was he good for us. To this day my favorite memory as a Jets fan was watching Riggins turn upfield. For most of his career in washington, he was already a larry czonka fullback type; with us, he was young and fast and could turn the corner too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, roscoeword said: Man was he good for us. To this day my favorite memory as a Jets fan was watching Riggins turn upfield. For most of his career in washington, he was already a larry czonka fullback type; with us, he was young and fast and could turn the corner too. I was so pissed when we lost him, other than Namath, he was a favorite of mine. BTW, I remember the real Rosco Word!! He was a CB for us and, briefly, a bit of a phenom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 5 hours ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Lol aw another mark Sanchez fan boy ? we were a “win now “ team with a short window. That was reality. Most fans live in “ fantasy” I agree any other years besides 09/10 you roll the dice on a franchise qb. Since we have had very few “ win now “ teams. Could care less about Sanchez, you roll the dice on a QB for what we gave up. Who would have been our QB? I hate Josh Allen but if we were sitting at #17 and we were offered that trade to take him at #5 then I do it all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 8 hours ago, JetsFanatic said: I was so pissed when we lost him, other than Namath, he was a favorite of mine. BTW, I remember the real Rosco Word!! He was a CB for us and, briefly, a bit of a phenom. Riggo ROCKS ! ?.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 31 minutes ago, kelly said: ..in the middle ? 5 hours ago, bla bla bla said: Could care less about Sanchez, you roll the dice on a QB for what we gave up. Who would have been our QB? I hate Josh Allen but if we were sitting at #17 and we were offered that trade to take him at #5 then I do it all day. This class of 4 were all far superior than mark sanchez. He played 1 yr ? With a Allstar cast? I know our level for success was very bad. But that was our window, for a win. Now qb. Not a franchise qb Who may turn out to be a turd. Which he did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 58 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: This class of 4 were all far superior than mark sanchez. He played 1 yr ? With a Allstar cast? I know our level for success was very bad. But that was our window, for a win. Now qb. Not a franchise qb Who may turn out to be a turd. Which he did Who would you have had as our QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/8/2018 at 1:54 PM, Jetsplayer21 said: What nothing did we give up to move from 18? to 6th? We basically threw away a prime 1st and whatever picks we have to move up, for a raw rookie qb Who needed to be carried by a very win now team. So yes factor in we could have signed ANYONE to play Better and just ride the best D, rushing team in nfl and use those picks on supplemented immediate impact players. We gave up an extra second rounder and a xoupke filler players who mangini liked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Vilma trade should not be in the discussion. In addition to Jolley, here are a couple that come to mind. - Dewayne Robertson. Two 1s and a 4. For Robertson. Vilma is not even if the same stratosphere as this one. - Lam Jones. Two 1s for a track star who could not run routes and had bad handls. - 1997 trading back out of 1 overall and taking James Farrior. Nice player (for Pittsburgh), but we traded back from 1 to 6 and again to 8. And all we added were some 3s and 4s. HOFer Orlando Pace went 1. HOFer Walter Jones went 6. We ended up with Farrior, Terry Day, Dedric Ward and Leon Johnson.Dewayne was in a draft class which was abnormally stacked with dt’s too. Just to add to it. The parcels opening draft trade back for chump change was the worst. He could have gotten a lifetimes ransom but nope. Derrick ward Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlancemehlot Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Always hated the justin mccareins for a 2nd rounder trade. The jets would just trade for whatever player torched them in the past. Mccareins are us up the season prior. Jolley was the same scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, chirorob said: We gave up an extra second rounder and a xoupke filler players who mangini liked. Thanks. I. Know as jet fans we are so use to throwing away 2nd round picks, but for rest of nfl 2nd founders are very valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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