chirorob Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 10 hours ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Thanks. I. Know as jet fans we are so use to throwing away 2nd round picks, but for rest of nfl 2nd founders are very valuable. No, they are valuable picks. At the time, giving up just 1 second rounder to move that far up in the draft I didn't think was a bad trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 10, 2018 Author Share Posted September 10, 2018 13 hours ago, bla bla bla said: Who would you have had as our QB ? cheers ~ ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruby2 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 So many years of just inept managing, it is hard to pick one. Gun to head im going Moss for Coles. We had both players but neither one in their primes, if that isn't Jets football, I dont know what is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 re TRADE dept. - NFL trade rumors : 9 players who could be moved next | Steelers' Le'Veon Bell ? Buccaneers' Jameis Winston ? http://s.nj.com/c03iQKD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 On 9/8/2018 at 1:04 PM, Jetsplayer21 said: Trading up for mark Sanchez No because we gave up nothing and garbage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: No because we gave up nothing and garbage agreed !.. pretty much ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 hour ago, UnitedWhofans said: No because we gave up nothing and garbage I know we are so use to our gms pissing away 2nd round picks but to the rest of nfl they are quite valuable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 17 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: I know we are so use to our gms pissing away 2nd round picks but to the rest of nfl they are quite valuable. Still not enough to call it the worst trade ever. You're not winning this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Still not enough to call it the worst trade ever. You're not winning this point I’m factoring a real player we could have picked at five, instead of garbage. So did you forget we gave up a 2nd ? Or really view 2nd round picks as “ nothing “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Just now, Jetsplayer21 said: I’m factoring a real player we could have picked at five, instead of garbage. So did you forget we gave up a 2nd ? Or really view 2nd round picks as “ nothing “ It's not enough. Mark Sanchez was not garbage anyway. Ryan Leaf was garbage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Didn't Riggins retire then unretire? I was almost certain it was going to be Farrior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayRay Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 How about trading away Pro-Bowl wide receiver Rob Moore for a first round pick in 1995, which was used to draft Hugh Douglas, who a few years later was stupidly traded away for second and fifth round picks by Bill Parcells. Douglas racked up 80 sacks in his career and went to multiple Pro-Bowls for the Eagles. Bill Parcells was a great field coach, but he was a disaster as Jets GM and his personnel decisions, both in the front office and the roster, and his continued influence over Woody Johnson have had a negative impact on the Jets for two decades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 re our TRADE dept. - NFL trade rumors : Should Jets deal for Steelers' Le'Veon Bell ? Pros, cons, analysis http://s.nj.com/OvQSQb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Jets rebuild has come too far to mess it up by trading for Le'Veon Bell https://usat.ly/2MZPrcG via @thejetswire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 Sources : Steelers listen to offers for RB Bell http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24770741 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 Rich Cimini ESPN Staff Writer The Jets should leave Le'Veon Bell to his jet skiing. A trade for the disgruntled star makes little sense, especially since he could be a one-year rental — a ridiculously expensive rental. They'd be better served by rolling that $11 million into next year's cap. Bell could help a win-now team; the Jets aren't a win-now team. The called the Steelers out of due diligence, always looking for a fire sale. If they can get him for a fifth-round pick, sure, they'd be interested. But a third rounder ? They won't give up that much. Plus, if Bell doesn't want to play for the Steelers on the franchise tag, why would he want to play for the Jets ? The more likely scenario is them making a run at him in March as a free agent, but even that avenue would come with risk. He's a "me" player with a lot of miles on his odometer — not worth a mega contract. > http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 NFL trade rumors : Steelers' Le'Veon Bell, Seahawks' Earl Thomas on the block ? 11 players who could be moved next http://s.nj.com/c03iQKD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 NFL trade rumors : Jets reach out to Steelers about Le'Veon Bell ? Pros, cons, analysis http://s.nj.com/OvQSQb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 Jets should not trade for Le'Veon Bell in 2018 https://thejetpress.com/2018/09/25/new-york-jets-should-not-trade-leveon-bell/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 On 9/8/2018 at 11:44 AM, kelly said: re Trade dept. - Is it realistic for Jets to make a run at Le'Veon Bell ? http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/77270 I just posted a thread discussing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 hour ago, kelly said: Plus, if Bell doesn't want to play for the Steelers on the franchise tag, why would he want to play for the Jets ? He grew up a Jets fan and his father has been a lifelong Jets fan. Not that that guarantees anything, but I think if the Jets are close money wise he would sign. Big risk though, and not sure if it is worth it unless Steelers are willing to take a third rounder or less, plus a player for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Ex-Rex said: He grew up a Jets fan and his father has been a lifelong Jets fan. Not that that guarantees anything, but I think if the Jets are close money wise he would sign. Big risk though, and not sure if it is worth it unless Steelers are willing to take a third rounder or less, plus a player for him. Rich Cimini ESPN Staff Writer The Jets should leave Le'Veon Bell to his jet skiing. A trade for the disgruntled star makes little sense, especially since he could be a one-year rental — a ridiculously expensive rental. They'd be better served by rolling that $11 million into next year's cap. Bell could help a win-now team; the Jets aren't a win-now team. The called the Steelers out of due diligence, always looking for a fire sale. If they can get him for a fifth-round pick, sure, they'd be interested. But a third rounder? They won't give up that much. Plus, if Bell doesn't want to play for the Steelers on the franchise tag, why would he want to play for the Jets? The more likely scenario is them making a run at him in March as a free agent, but even that avenue would come with risk. He's a "me" player with a lot of miles on his odometer — not worth a mega contract. > http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted September 26, 2018 Author Share Posted September 26, 2018 Top 3 suitors for Le'Veon Bell trade : Colts, ? Jets ? and Bucs https://www.yahoo.com/sports/top-3-suitors-leveon-bell-trade-colts-jets-bucs-053132082.html?.tsrc=fauxdal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 9:24 AM, CanadaSteve said: Say what you want about the genius of Parcells, but the man flat out STUNK at drafting. yes and no. he did draft chad, ellis and abraham. not such bad players. he also drafted thomas, fabini, ferguson, young, coles and leon johnson. so in 4 years he drafted 9 bona fide starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 NFL trade rumors : Eagles interested in Steelers' Le'Veon Bell ; 11 players who could be moved next | Earl Thomas, Nick Foles http://s.nj.com/c03iQKD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted October 1, 2018 Author Share Posted October 1, 2018 Jets should steer clear of Steelers' steep asking price for Le'Veon Bell https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2018/10/01/jets-should-steer-clear-of-steelers-steep-asking-price-for-leveon-bell/ via @thejetswire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 Le'Veon speaks : Expectations, message to teammates, trade talk http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/28863 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 On 9/18/2018 at 12:33 PM, BroadwayRay said: How about trading away Pro-Bowl wide receiver Rob Moore for a first round pick in 1995, which was used to draft Hugh Douglas, who a few years later was stupidly traded away for second and fifth round picks by Bill Parcells. Douglas racked up 80 sacks in his career and went to multiple Pro-Bowls for the Eagles. Bill Parcells was a great field coach, but he was a disaster as Jets GM and his personnel decisions, both in the front office and the roster, and his continued influence over Woody Johnson have had a negative impact on the Jets for two decades. Jets took Moore in the supplemental draft in the 1st round, forfeiting the #1 the next season; the Favre draft. GM Dick Steinberg and Asst. GM Ron Wolf managed get back into things, but Falcons took Favre in front of the Jets, Jets settled on Nagle. Wolf get the Packers GM the next season and picks Jerry Glanville's pocket for Favre, who like partying in Atlanta a bit too much for the Falcons. Lots of odd history, most of it bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Antonio Brown or Leonard Williams trade ? Where Jets offseason goes from here https://nypost.com/2019/01/21/mike-maccagnan-has-to-get-first-steps-of-jets-offseason-right/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site buttons&utm_campaign=site buttons via @nypostsports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 re Trade dept. - Barnwell's trade grades : The NFL's 30 most impactful of last year http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25864947/2018-nfl-trade-grades-30-most-impactful-365-days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Island Leprechaun Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 9/9/2018 at 11:16 PM, Jetsplayer21 said: Thanks. I. Know as jet fans we are so use to throwing away 2nd round picks, but for rest of nfl 2nd founders are very valuable. I think it's safe to say that you're not winning your argument. I haven't seen anyone here agree that it was a bad deal for the Jets. It was, as Beerfish already noted, an outstanding deal for the Jets. The question remains whether the real problem was that the Jets tried to force Sanchez onto the field too quickly and crippled his career. We'll never know for sure, but I'd wager he would have been a much more solid QB if he had been given at least a year to get his feet on the ground. He had all of 16 games at USC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 Jets have enough chips to be active in trade market ( Antonio Brown ? ) http://www.espn.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/78989 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted February 4, 2019 Share Posted February 4, 2019 I think it's safe to say that you're not winning your argument. I haven't seen anyone here agree that it was a bad deal for the Jets. It was, as Beerfish already noted, an outstanding deal for the Jets. The question remains whether the real problem was that the Jets tried to force Sanchez onto the field too quickly and crippled his career. We'll never know for sure, but I'd wager he would have been a much more solid QB if he had been given at least a year to get his feet on the ground. He had all of 16 games at USC.Sanchez's biggest flaw is that we let all his weapons leave and did not replace them. The team litterally crumbled around him and instead of fixing it we just pointed fingers and said Geno Smith and Tim Tebow are the answer.Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share Posted February 4, 2019 1 hour ago, bealeb319 said: Sanchez's biggest flaw is that we let all his weapons leave and did not replace them. The team litterally crumbled around him and instead of fixing it we just pointed fingers and said Geno Smith and Tim Tebow are the answer. Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app gm's matter ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly Posted February 5, 2019 Author Share Posted February 5, 2019 Jets don't plan on trading Leonard Williams : 'It would be stupid' https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sports-leonard-williams-jets-gregg-williams-20190205-story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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