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TRADE dept. : WORST Trade for every NFL team... the WORST trade for the jets ? ? ?


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On 2/4/2019 at 10:33 AM, bealeb319 said:

Sanchez's biggest flaw is that we let all his weapons leave and did not replace them. The team litterally crumbled around him and instead of fixing it we just pointed fingers and said Geno Smith and Tim Tebow are the answer.

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If only he could go to a team with weapons, like LeSean McCoy, Zach Ertz,, Jeremy Maclin, Darren Sproles and Jordan Matthews, he would surely excel! 

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Rich Cimini    ESPN Staff Writer 

One of Adam Gase's most important goals in his first season should be to establish a culture of team and accountability. Trading for Antonio (I Don't Need Football) Brown doesn't fit into that equation. While the talent is tempting, the baggage is a turn-off. So is the compensation it would take to make a trade. And, oh, yes, he wants a new contract, too. If the Jets are thinking of getting into the Brown sweepstakes... don't.

>  http://www.espn.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets

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2 hours ago, kelly said:

Clearly Tyler Greenwalt read my Wild Scenario post and added the Falcons to the list of potential trade partners.  I hadn't read a single thing about trading with Atlanta until now.  

Seriously though, I think if Mac trades out of #3 he will likely try to get a veteran starter (e.g., Grady Jarrett) in the deal.  If he gets 2-3 picks and a key starter, he would have done well.

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Rich Cimini   ESPN Staff Writer 

Ideal draft scenarios for the Jets: 1. They drop one spot to four, swapping places with the Raiders. The Jets would get the Raiders' second-round pick (35), filling a void on their draft card. They'd have to send their second third-rounder (93) to Oakland in the trade, based on the trade chart. The Raiders are said to be smitten with NT Ed Oliver, and perhaps they'd be willing to jump a spot, thinking the Jets might take him. At four, the Jets would have a choice of DT Quinnen Williams or LB Josh Allen AND they'd have a pick in each of the first four rounds. 2. DE Nick Bosa unexpectedly falls to them at three. 3. The Jets stay at three and draft Allen. (This is my choice. My hunch is they'd prefer Williams over Allen.)

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There is much speculation over Mike Maccagnan’s desire to trade out of the No. 3 overall pick in the draft. With plenty of holes still to fill in a defense-rich draft, it would make sense for the Jets to move back, acquire more picks and still put themselves in position to grab a solid player.But, it would be wise for the Jets to wait until after the first two picks have been made before trading back.If the board falls the way many predict – with Kyler Murray and Nick Bosa going Nos. 1 and 2, respectively – the Jets will absolutely look to trade out of the No. 3 pick. However, there are a few scenarios where the Jets would be better off holding onto their pick if Murray and/or Bosa are still available.

Firstly, the Jets need to hold out before trading the pick in case Nick Bosa falls to the third pick. If Bosa is there for the taking, there’s almost no chance they pass on the player believed to be the best prospect in the entire draft. Bosa is a phenomenal talent on the edge and he’d immediately make an impact on the Jets defense.Something similar to this happened in the 2018 draft with the Broncos. Before they went on the clock with the fifth pick on draft night, the Broncos reportedly had a deal in place with the Bills to swap first-round picks. But when edge rusher Bradley Chubb became available after the Browns took Denzel Ward fourth overall, the Broncos canceled the trade and took the player they wanted all along. 

This could happen to the Jets if the two teams ahead of them pass on Bosa.Another scenario is if Murray is still on the board when the third pick comes up. No, that’s not to suggest the Jets could take Murray. But the third pick would become immensely more valuable than it is today with Murray available. Every team looking for a franchise quarterback would want to move up and take him, and the Jets could start a nice bidding war for their pick.The Bosa falling scenario is a little more likely than Murray falling, but both are reasons for the Jets to wait until the second pick is in before trading back.

Last season, the Jets traded up to the third pick more than a month before the draft to scout potential quarterbacks, which ended up being Sam Darnold. This season, however, the Jets are in a strange position where they aren’t in desperate need of any one player. Obviously, they don’t need a quarterback, but they could certainly use a nice edge rusher like Josh Allen or Montez Sweat, or a defensive tackle like Quinnen Williams or Ed Oliver.There are many ways the draft board could fall, but if the Jets want to maximize the value of their first-round pick, they should wait before trading back. They could be in line to take a future star or get a better trade package should a more-coveted prospect fall in the draft.

>   https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/04/23/jets-shouldnt-trade-down-until-they-see-the-first-2-picks/

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Rich Cimini   ESPN Staff Writer 

Lot of chatter about a Jets-Redskins trade. What could the Jets command in a deal that drops them from three to 15? Based on the Titans-Rams and Browns-Eagles trades in 2016, when the latter teams jumped up for Jared Goff and Carson Wentz, respectively, the Jets should demand Washington's first- and second-round picks this year (15 and 46), plus first- and second-rounders next year. That, at least, should be the foundation. Just remember: The trade chart goes out the window when a QB is involved. In last year's Jets-Colts trade, the Jets "overpaid" by 900 points to move up three spots. The Redskins reportedly want QB Dwayne Haskins. The Jets might re-think if DE Nick Bosa falls to three, I'm told.

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On 9/9/2018 at 8:24 AM, Jetsplayer21 said:

Lol aw another mark Sanchez fan boy ? we were a “win now “ team with a short window. That was reality. Most fans live in “ fantasy” I agree any other years besides 09/10 you roll the dice on a franchise qb. Since we have had very few “ win now “ teams.

Ok - who could we have gotten to run that team at QB that year?

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3 minutes ago, peebag said:

Ok - who could we have gotten to run that team at QB that year?

Well Josh McCown was in his 8th season at that point so a seasoned vet.

Fitzpatrick was just onto his 2nd team at that point and would have been another good option.

Man it would have been nice to have seen either of them play in a Jets uniform.

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Jets should take advantage of Redskins’ desire to move up in draft

The New York Jets have made no secret of their willingness to trade down in the NFL Draft, and they should take full advantage of some desperation from the Washington Redskins.

It’s crazy to think how the tides have turned in New York in the last year. The Jets boldly traded up in the 2018 draft, sending three second round picks to the Indianapolis Colts for the right to eventually draft Sam Darnold, and this year they sit at No. 3 again.This time around the Jets have hinted that they want to trade down, allowing General Manager Mike Maccagnan to recoup some draft capital to help the organization properly build for the long term. There hadn’t been much of an interest in teams going up in the draft with a weaker quarterback crop, but the Washington Redskins may have other ideas.

Just talked to a Redskins source who told me Dan Snyder has "taken over the first round of the draft."The last time that happened the Redskins traded two future No. 1's and a No. 2 to move up for Robert Griffin.

.@MikeGarafolo reports @nflnetwork the Redskins have explored moving into the top-5.#UpToTheMinute

In summary, the Redskins are exploring moves into the top five of the draft and Dan Snyder has taken over the war room, so they may have identified a quarterback they believe can be a franchise guy. With the Giants sitting at No. 6, the Redskins may need to be bold to go up near the top of the draft to land their guy and prevent him from landing with Big Blue.This is exactly what the Jets have to be hoping for, as a desperate Dan Snyder may be willing to overpay to jump from No. 15 all the way to the Jets’ slot at three. Moving back 12 spots in a draft where the Jets are guaranteed a premium defender if they stay put should cost a lot, and the Redskins could make Maccagnan an offer he can’t refuse.

Any deal would have to start with a second round pick, which the Jets lack after sending theirs to Indianapolis, and Washington’s 2020 first rounder. There would likely be additional picks coming the Jets’ way in this scenario, and if Snyder is desperate to land a guy like Dwayne Haskins he may part with more premium choices to ensure he gets the quarterback he wants.The Jets haven’t traded down in the draft in a long time, but doing so here would be a prudent move for a franchise that needs a lot of talent to build a long term contender. Missing out on a guy like Quinnen Williams or Josh Allen would sting, but the Jets could end up filling several needs by pulling off a deal like this.

If Washington gives the Jets a second rounder this year and next year’s first round pick, the Jets should run to the podium to announce this trade. Even though the Jets should be improved this season, the goal remains to be in position to take over the AFC East after Tom Brady retires, and this kind of deal could put them in a better position to do just that.

https://fansided.com/2019/04/24/nfl-draft-rumors-jets-redskins/

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4 hours ago, peebag said:

Ok - who could we have gotten to run that team at QB that year?

 

Your arguement is, qbs were so bad back in 09 we couldn’t do better ?? I don’t have a list of the teams backups, I’m sure 3/4 would have been better. Trade for a starter who’s team was out of playoff contention ?  When your team is setup To win everywhere else, and your rookie qb is getting benched multiple times due to poor play, you do anything you can to bring in a decent qb. Jets didn’t even try. 

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2019 NFL draft : Jets should trade into 2nd round

Day one of the NFL Draft is complete. The Jets acquired a star player in Quinnen Williams. They failed to acquire a second-round pick via trade, but it’s not too late to make a deal.

The New York Jets failed to find a trade partner on day one, and they will go into day two with no second round pick. Plenty of big names are still available heading into the second round.The Jets have the ammunition to do it, and should aggressively pursue a trade that gets them back into round two.There are still glaring holes across the roster. Quinnen Williams is a star talent, but didn’t fill a big hole on the Jets’ defense. Moves still have to be made for spots to be filled. They still have holes at cornerback, edge rusher, and the offensive line. They can easily fill at least one of these holes if they move back into round two.

Top Tier Talent Still on the Board

The second round is filled with talented cornerbacks.Names like Byron Murphy,Greedy Williams & Julian Love are still on the board heading into day two, and all 3 of these corners would compete for a starting role in the Jets’ secondary.Any of these names would be a huge boost for New Jack City.Arguably the best prospect available at this point is Jawaan Taylor, who has been mocked as high as the top 10 in some scenarios. He fell all the way to round two, and will be an absolute steal for whoever gets their hands on him. He’ll likely go early in round two, but if the Jets can maneuver their way into the top five, they may luck out.There are several other offensive lineman left who are worthy of trading up for. Cody Ford is still on the board, who can potentially become a long term starter at offensive tackle. Eric McCoy is also still available, which would fill arguably the biggest hole on the roster at center. The Jets need to build a wall for Sam Darnold, and trading up for one of these prospects would be a step in the right direction.

What it Would Take

The Jets don’t have much draft stock. They only have five picks left, which is very low, especially for a rebuilding team. That being said, it’s tough to give up draft picks in a draft where you don’t have many. This is the biggest factor holding the Jets back from making a trade.However, the Jets have one big asset they can package into a deal for a second round pick. Darron Lee. The Jets have been shopping Lee for awhile, and tomorrow is the perfect time to strike a deal. It’s probably the last shot the Jets have at getting anything valuable out of a trade involving Lee.

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Jets were shopping LB Darron Lee tonight in a package deal to try and get into the 2nd round tomorrow. At least 1 NFC team has expressed interest

A deal that involves Darron Lee and a mid round pick for a second rounder would be tough to pass on. The Jets need talent badly, and talent is calling their names. It’s up to Mike Maccagnan to be aggressive on day two and strike a deal to put himself back in the second round.

https://thejetpress.com/2019/04/26/2019-nfl-draft-jets-trade-second-round/

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The Jets didn’t go the trade route Thursday, but they might just take that path Friday. But instead of moving down, the talk will be focused on whether the Jets move up.Speculation swirled prior to the start of the 2019 NFL Draft that a number of teams were interested in the Green & White’s No. 3 overall selection. Jets general manager Mike Maccagan made it clear that he would listen to offers and he did just that all the way up until taking Alabama DL Quinnen Williams.“When you’re sitting there at 3, there are definitely some teams we talked to before and a few teams we talked to when we are on the clock,” Maccagnan said. “But there was never an offer or deal that we felt good enough to move back from.”The 6’3”, 303-pound Williams, who had 18.5 tackles for loss and seven sacks last season for the Crimson Tide, followed chalk atop the draft in Nashville. The Arizona Cardinals took Oklahoma QB Kyler Murray with the No. 1 overall selection and the San Francisco 49ers grabbed arguably the top edge rusher in the draft in Ohio State’s Nick Bosa at No. 2. The Jets entertained conversations, but they were happy to stay put and land a dynamic interior force.

“Quite frankly we were very happy with the player that was available. We felt like there was a good chance he’d be there and from our standpoint — as we said before — best player available at that point in the draft not only from a playing standpoint but from a character standpoint,” Maccagnan said. “We feel really good about him and a young player too with a bright future.”The Jets will head into Day 2 with a pair of selections in the third round but without a second-rounder. Maccagnan and the personnel department will huddle up tonight and tomorrow to discuss an attempt to get into Round 2.“I think we’ll probably look into it,” Maccagnan told reporters. “I think it’s one of those ones where it really depends on how the board unfolds. Obviously there are a lot of picks to go through today and we’ll kind of, like a lot of teams do, we’ll huddle, and we’ve done a lot of work on trying to project where guys will go.”Depending on what trade chart you use, the Jets’ two third-rounders (No. 68 and No. 93) could be packaged into a low- or middle-round second-rounder.

“If there is a player or two we feel is worthy of going up and chasing, we’ll look into doing that,” Maccagnan said. “I’m not going to sit up here and say we’ll absolutely do that, but I think every team does that more or less.”

https://www.newyorkjets.com/news/will-the-jets-try-to-move-up-into-round-2

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In the weeks prior to the 2019 NFL draft, it was widely speculated the Jets would trade back. Saddled with the No. 3 overall pick, a bevy of roster needs and no second-round selection, it made sense for general manager Mike Maccagnan to find a team willing to trade up.But, as we saw on draft night, no trade took place and the Jets drafted Alabama defensive tackle Quinnen Williams with the third overall pick. Maccagnan claimed later the Jets weren’t actively seeking to trade out of the pick, but they were open to one should a solid package be offered.

“We actually felt very comfortable being there [at No. 3],” Maccagnan told NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport. “We said very publicly we were going to get a very good player at 3. But we went through our process in talking to teams.”

Maccagnan went on to say the decision whether or not to trade back came while the Jets were on the clock. During the 10 minutes before New York needed to submit its selection, Maccagnan said the Jets were talking to teams about a trade, but nothing piqued their interest enough.“There was never really a trade offer that we felt was strong enough to make us move,” he said. “We were very happy to take what we felt was one of the top players in the draft at that spot and went forward with it.”Williams is considered by many to be the top prospect in the entire draft, so getting him at No. 3 is tremendous value for the team. However, the Jets didn’t pick again until the 68th overall selection when they drafted Florida edge rusher Jachai Polite. For a team with so many holes, it may have been more prudent to trade out of the pick and gather more assets rather than stay at No. 3 and take a marquee player.

If the Jets truly didn’t receive any good offers for the third pick, then refraining from trading back was the smart move. Williams will be a powerhouse on the defensive line and a stabilizing force in the middle of the defense. The issue is that after Williams, the Jets didn’t really get any better overall unless Polite or the rest of the Jets’ picks outperform their draft slots. There was a lot of good defensive talent in this draft and moving back just a few spots to acquire more picks could have helped the team in the long run while allowing the Jets to still take a solid player.“In the end, we never found a team that was going to be in a position to facilitate a trade with us,” Maccagnan concluded. “We sort of stayed put, kept our picks, kept our future picks and we felt we got some good players in the third round.”

>    https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/03/jets-gm-mike-maccagnanno-3-pick-2019-nfl-draft/

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Since the Jets signed C.J. Mosley in free agency, the writing has been on the wall for linebacker Darron Lee.

With Mosley in the mix, Lee’s services are no longer required in the Big Apple. New York even drafted Lee’s replacement in Minnesota’s Blake Cashman, so it’s safe to assume the former first-round pick will be anywhere but with the Jets in 2019.Only 24, Lee still has plenty of good football ahead of him. He also has the raw athleticism and skill set to succeed in the right situation. However, no team has shown much of an interest in acquiring the Ohio State product.

That could change sooner rather than later with the news that came out of Jacksonville on Thursday.Seemingly out of nowhere, Jaguars’ star linebacker Telvin Smith announced on Instagram that he would be sitting out the 2019 season in order to tend to personal issues. Smith plans on returning at some point, but his absence creates a hole in the middle of Jacksonville’s 4-3 defense this upcoming season.Lee can be the player to fill the void Smith leaves behind. There aren’t too many better options out there for the Jaguars at this point and Lee profiles similarly to Myles Jack with his athleticism. If Lee is added into the mix, Jacksonville would have arguably the most athletic middle linebacker duo in the league.

There’s no doubt that Lee has a lot of work to do to reach his full potential. His play with the Jets has left plenty to be desired and his behavior off the field hasn’t helped his cause either. Regardless, with the free agent pool dwindling and the NFL draft in the books, Jacksonville can afford to take a flier on a low-risk, high-reward player in Lee.The Jets cannot give him away for free, but considering the Smith-sized hole in the middle of the Jaguars’ defense, odds are New York would receive something of value in exchange for its once-promising prospect. If the two sides can come to terms on a deal, the Jets would be foolish not to pounce on the opportunity to move on from Lee.

>     https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/10/new-york-jets-darron-lee-trade-jacksonville-jaguars-telvin-smith/

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The Jets are known for doing stupid things. For years, incompetence has been the name of the game at 1 Jets Drive.

However, not even the Jets are dumb enough to do what former ESPN NFL Insider John Clayton suggested on Friday. Right? For some reason, Clayton could see the Jets trading star running back Le’Veon Bell before the beginning of the regular season if there are any suitors.Forget about the fact that Adam Gase might be unhappy with how much money former general manager Mike Maccagnan gave Bell in free agency. The notion that the Jets would trade their prized free agent acquisition is flat out asinine.For starters, Christopher Johnson played a major role in the Jets going out and getting Bell. Maccagnan might be gone, but Johnson remains in New York. Why would the man who campaigned for Bell allow interim GM Gase or whoever takes over as the Jets’ next general manager to deal him?

The goal this offseason was to add weapons around second-year quarterback Sam Darnold. What kind of message would the Jets be sending if they go out and trade their best offensive skill position player months after signing him? New York’s goal is to contend as soon as this upcoming season. Bell helps them do that. There’s no doubt about that.

There’s also the fact that Gase needs Bell on the field if he wants his offense to succeed. Gase’s issue with Bell centered around his salary, not the player himself. Gase is well aware of what Bell brings to the table and he will be a focal point of New York’s offense. Say what you want about Gase, but he is certainly not dumb enough to trade a weapon like Bell. If he did, he would be left with Ty Montgomery, Elijah McGuire and Trenton Cannon carrying the workload out of the backfield. That’s not exactly ideal, nor is the message the Jets would be sending to future free agent targets.

The Jets have caught plenty of heat for firing Maccagnan at a seemingly bad time. The only way they can top the supposed incompetence of the Maccagnan firing would be to trade Bell. At that point, the “same old Jets” mantra really would apply to New York’s new regime.

>    https://jetswire.usatoday.com/2019/05/18/new-york-jets-leveon-bell-trade/

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The New York Jets wasted little time making moves after firing their general manager, but was trading away Darron Lee the right decision ?

In his first act as interim general manager, new head coach Adam Gase traded linebacker Darron Lee, a former top-20 draft pick, to the Kansas City Chiefs for a sixth-round pick in the 2020 NFL draft.

It is a somewhat puzzling move for the Jets, since Lee still has some promising talent. Alternatively, the Jets obviously have their reasons to make such a move. So, let us search beneath the surface and see why they made this trade :

  • Darron hasn’t lived up to the high expectations since he came to the Jets as a first-round pick in the 2016 NFL draft.
  • In 2018, Lee was suspended several games for violating the NFL’s substance abuse policy.
  • Physically, Lee is somewhat undersized for the NFL game. While his athleticism is rare for a linebacker, his lack of ideal bulk left him lacking in run support against bigger, more physical blockers.
  • With the addition of C.J. Mosley, Lee’s underachieving play made him expendable on the depth chart heading into the 2019 season.
  • It had been problematic for former general manager Mike Maccagnan to strike a deal, but Gase wasted little time pulling the trigger once he took over.

The issue of keeping a player on a team, versus sending him off always relies heavily on what he has brought to the Jets. In this case, Lee came to the Jets in 2016 and with him came hopes – that even if his stature is not so hefty, he makes up for that by his overall impact on the team, as well as his effort on the field. And in Darron’s case, there have been shortcomings in both quarters.

Lee joined the Jets in 2016, and he started showing some promise in 2017. But despite some flashes of brilliance in 2018, Lee’s suspension and inconsistent play cast a dark shadow over his best moments.At the end of the day, some drawbacks cannot be ignored, and Lee simply had too many. And, since it seems that the Jets are trying to start a new page, trading Lee became a priority.

>    https://thejetpress.com/2019/05/20/nfl-new-york-jets-darron-lee-trade-chiefs-analysis/

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