prime21 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Jets loss but Mhomes thread getting al out of buzz. SMH Is Mahomes good? yes Is the system Mahomes in good? yes Does Mahomes have a good coaching staff? yes Does Mahomes have some weapons at his disposal? yes Is the Jets QB Sam Darnold? yes What are people arguing about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 24 minutes ago, JiF said: You're right CTM. You got me. I bow down before you. I'll even do you a solid and summarize the defeat you've handed me: Mahomes is 1000x better than Smith but Smith played very well in that offense. I wonder what Mahomes would look like in a different system. BOOOOOMMMM!!! FACE TIME!!! IN YOUR EYE, JIF!!!!!!!! YOU ARE SOOOO DUMB!!!!!!!! SUCH A FOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CRAY TALK!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would quote your initial post again but you either lack the comprehension skills to read your words and understand them or you are just in stubborn denial. Either way it's a waste of time smashJif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Is Chad'sTheMan still making points up in his head and then arguing for or against them on the forum? This is like 5 threads now. - Mahomes is awesome - Mahomes is in an awesome situation with outstanding playmakers, strong OL, and great offensive coaching/playcalling The two above statements are neither mutually exclusive, nor are they throwing cold water on Mahomes in order to artificially inflate Sam's value. This would be an "AND" function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Half of mahomes TDs are dump offs that go the distance. Including a couple last night. Sorry I don’t just look at stats... context is more important to me. Im MUCH more impressed with was Wentz/Luck are doing... carrying their offenses. Hell even Goff has impressed me more than Mahomes this year. Not to mention Rodgers- who is literally a one man team. Comparing him to Mahomes is laughable at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, nico002 said: Half of mahomes TDs are dump offs that go the distance. Including a couple last night. Sorry I don’t just look at stats... context is more important to me. I'll take this one: "Stop throwing cold water on Mahomes and pumping up Darnold without mentioning or referencing Darnold anywhere in the post!" -Chad'sTheMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 12 minutes ago, CTM said: I would quote your initial post again but you either lack the comprehension skills to read your words and understand them or you are just in stubborn denial. Either way it's a waste of time smashJif It would be a waste of time. Because I've already conceded the win. You got me. Should I repeat it again to make you feel better? Mahomes is 1000x better than Alex Smith but this offense made Alex Smith look really good (see stats) as some perspective. And I would read that post and I'd gasp for air and run to hide my face from the shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: Is Chad'sTheMan still making points up in his head and then arguing for or against them on the forum? This is like 5 threads now. - Mahomes is awesome - Mahomes is in an awesome situation with outstanding playmakers, strong OL, and great offensive coaching/playcalling The two above statements are neither mutually exclusive, nor are they throwing cold water on Mahomes in order to artificially inflate Sam's value. This would be an "AND" function. 13 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: I'll take this one: "Stop throwing cold water on Mahomes and pumping up Darnold without mentioning or referencing Darnold anywhere in the post!" -Chad'sTheMan Your obsession with me is cute and all but you'll get as far with it as you do with your Brady obsession. Now run along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 19 minutes ago, nico002 said: Not to mention Rodgers- who is literally a one man team. Comparing him to Mahomes is laughable at this point. Comparing Mahomes to Rodgers aka one of the GOATs is totally fine and acceptable! Not comparing him to Rodgers is just the Samsonites being Darnold homers! (I'll take credit for Samsonites, btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, CTM said: Your obsession with me is cute and all but you'll get as far with it as you do with your Brady obsession. Now run along Can you go three threads without mentioning brady or nah? edit: My obsession with you? Haha. Below are the last 3 threads that we've had an exchange in. Notice that you quoted me first in all 3. https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/140276-congrats-drew-brees/ https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/140376-pats-chiefs/?page=6&tab=comments#comment-3850077 https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/140240-can-we-put-the-arm-strength-questions-to-bed-forever/?page=9&tab=comments#comment-3845568 All of this started from a September thread (below), which is the only time I've quoted you first in a thread. You had a cow because you thought I was dissing your boo Brady, but ultimately you admitted that you were misinterpreting my comments because you weren't properly reading the posts. Proof positive that you make sh*t up in your head without clearly reading what's in front of you, and then argue your nuts off simply because you've got nothing else going on. And now you can't help but throw brady into every post you quote me in even when it's completely unnecessary, just like this thread: 43 minutes ago, CTM said: Your obsession with me is cute and all but you'll get as far with it as you do with your Brady obsession. https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/139800-sources-brady-felt-trapped-long-worried-about-being-pushed-out-by-belichick/?page=4 But sure, I'm the obsessed one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, greenwichjetfan said: Comparing Mahomes to Rodgers aka one of the GOATs is totally fine and acceptable! Not comparing him to Rodgers is just the Samsonites being Darnold homers! (I'll take credit for Samsonites, btw) Ok you’re a clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, nico002 said: Ok you’re a clown I was being sarcastic. Follow the thread, Nico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 This thread along with Patty Stans needs to walk the green mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Mahomes under Reid isn’t the same guy as he would’ve been under Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 hours ago, nico002 said: Half of mahomes TDs are dump offs that go the distance. Including a couple last night. Sorry I don’t just look at stats... context is more important to me. Im MUCH more impressed with was Wentz/Luck are doing... carrying their offenses. Hell even Goff has impressed me more than Mahomes this year. Not to mention Rodgers- who is literally a one man team. Comparing him to Mahomes is laughable at this point. Maybe look up these stats instead of ignoring them in favor of just relying upon your personal perceptions. What you conveniently ignore is leading receivers properly. If you hit a receiver in stride, he can get more yards. If you complete the pass but the receiver had to break stride, lean anywhere other than forward momentum, and/or outright jump to catch it, you're not going to get half of those longer TDs no matter which player caught it. Completed yards in the air: Mahomes: 6.6 yds Goff: 6.0 Luck: 5.3 He also attempts more long passes than anyone you mentioned. His average attempted pass is 9.6 yards. The only current starters more aggressive in this regard are Winston (10.5) and Watson (nominally ahead, at 9.7). Average air yards to the sticks (how many yards of air, relative to the 1st down marker, or presumably also the EZ). Mahomes: +0.7 yds (0.7 yards past the sticks). Only active starter ahead of him is Winston (1.1). Both Luck's and Wentz's average attempt is -1.6 yards (1.6 yards in front of the sticks, requiring 1st downs to be made via YAC). He's doing awesome. As the Jets were never really contenders this year (yet again), thanks in no small part to our FO (yet again) and coaching (yet again), I don't see the purpose in denigrating a good kid having a rookie year with production never seen before (other than fellow 2017-draftee Watson's start that unfortunately got cut short). It's not even like you're badmouthing the accomplishments of every non-Jets QB, which would be nonsensical but at least it'd be consistent, or if he played for a division rival. What'd Mahomes do to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 10 hours ago, nico002 said: 1. Look at Alex smiths stats to start the year lat year- he led the leuage in almost every statistical category 2. Mahomes is in his second year, two years older than darnold, playing with the best wr/rb/te/ol/oc in the game. Comparing him to darnold is impossible This 100% You can’t compare the situations and I specifically wanted Mahomes drafted by the Jets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Funny watching the black guys pretend Andy Reid and the offensive team and system he built have NOTHIN' to do with Kermits play. LOL WTF, dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 6 hours ago, New York Mick said: You two need your own thread In all fairness, Jif gets way too much criticism here. As a consolation, Jif should get his own forum to argue his points with others. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 6 hours ago, greenwichjetfan said: Can you go three threads without mentioning brady or nah? edit: My obsession with you? Haha. Below are the last 3 threads that we've had an exchange in. Notice that you quoted me first in all 3. https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/140276-congrats-drew-brees/ https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/140376-pats-chiefs/?page=6&tab=comments#comment-3850077 https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/140240-can-we-put-the-arm-strength-questions-to-bed-forever/?page=9&tab=comments#comment-3845568 All of this started from a September thread (below), which is the only time I've quoted you first in a thread. You had a cow because you thought I was dissing your boo Brady, but ultimately you admitted that you were misinterpreting my comments because you weren't properly reading the posts. Proof positive that you make sh*t up in your head without clearly reading what's in front of you, and then argue your nuts off simply because you've got nothing else going on. And now you can't help but throw brady into every post you quote me in even when it's completely unnecessary, just like this thread: https://forums.jetnation.com/topic/139800-sources-brady-felt-trapped-long-worried-about-being-pushed-out-by-belichick/?page=4 But sure, I'm the obsessed one. Lol, way to prove me wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, CTM said: Lol, way to prove me wrong Thanks. Your awful posting is the Tyreek Hill to my Mahomes: makes it far too easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 Mahomes under Reid isn’t the same guy as he would’ve been under Bowles.True, and it would have forced the Jets to completely revamp the entire staff. That would have been nice! Opportunity missed unfortunately.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 1 minute ago, RJIII said: True, and it would have forced the Jets to completely revamp the entire staff. That would have been nice! Opportunity missed unfortunately. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app We get it...you liked Mahomes. Do you have anything else to add? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/23/2018 at 1:41 PM, peebag said: We get it...you liked Mahomes. Do you have anything else to add? Did I invite you to my thread? Well, welcome anyway.. LRiddick ESPN: Golic & Wingo "I would trade ALL 52 men on the roster for MAHOMES II" And yes, where is Thai Foo Panda? Tell that chump to show his sticks soon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/12/2018 at 10:07 PM, Thai Jet said: Don't feed the troll tool. Where you been Szechuan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 T minus 40 minutes and counting ~.~Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just now, RJIII said: T minus 40 minutes and counting ~.~ Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Why do you keep bumping this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 My word! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Man these Kansas city receivers look amazing. They keep turning short passes into large gains and touchdowns.Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: Man these Kansas city receivers look amazing. They keep turning short passes into large gains and touchdowns. Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Yes crazy how they have turned all those short passes for more TD’s then a Jets QB has ever thrown for in just 8 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Yes crazy how they have turned all those short passes for more TD’s then a Jets QB has ever thrown for in just 8 games.A jets qb has never had that much talent on offense in my lifetimeSent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 mahomes on This team being coached by these so-called coaches would not being doing what he’s doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Guy looks great, but to ignore the fact of the skill around him and the designed plays is just being hard headed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Did you guys watch mahomes TDs? Two dump offs and a shovel pass. Epic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Just now, nico002 said: Did you guys watch mahomes TDs? Two dump offs and a shovel pass. Epic... Point taken. But guy still has to make the reads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, nico002 said: Did you guys watch mahomes TDs? Two dump offs and a shovel pass. Epic... Dude has 26 TD passes in 8 games stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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