Bowles Movement Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Charlie Brown said: All I can say this was my DAM PICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Uggggggg it makes me sick cause we would have had 2 more picks!!! Well in Sam we Trust Now!!! Sam will be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Jetmech said: Was it three of them? Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk I mean 2 shovel passes and a 5 yard slant with a bad missed tackle that became a TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 6 hours ago, tfine said: Watson was good last season then stunk it up today. Sent from my iPad using JetNation.com mobile app I'm on the "I told you so" also. I wrote that I was disgusted that Maccagnan didn't have the guts to grab Mahomes at 6 and instead of course went for the safe consensus pick that doesn't even play a game-changing positions, and took a lot of flack from other posters. Mahomes has an other worldly skill-set whose Ceiling is the Moon and Floor is still going to scare the hell out of every single D-back every week on the opposing side. Now I'm going to make another predication. Mahomes will torch the league in the same way Dan Marino stepped in and did. I'm extremely glad we lucked into Darnold, but I would have rather had Mahomes and 3 #2's, although the point might very well be moot as those 2 might be in the Top 5 of QB's for a long, long time. But don't take this post as a ding against Darnold at all, but one against Maccagnan. As far as Watson goes. Lot of tape on him now....weak arm, not a good combination...studied tape + weak arm, and I was glad Maccagnan didn't take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 He has cleaned up his act considerably when he has time, but he is also giving us a taste of his ability to throw off either foot and from any arm angle, just like he did in college. Gunslinger extraordinaire. I'll still take Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Seems like a lot of Jets fans will be waking up this morning with broken arms from too much patting themselves on the back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 9 hours ago, greenwichjetfan said: Actually tried to watch as much of this game as I could. Came away somewhat underwhelmed. No doubt the guy can throw it out of the stadium, and he had some good throws, but he locked in on his first read a lot and wasn’t able to throw anything other than fastballs. Andy Reid is the most underrated coach in the nfl because of his postseason struggles, and the team around Pat is absolutelrder and trurn it into 60+y stacked, so it inflated his stats and makes him look good. Smart of Andy and Pat to get the ball out quickly to his guys and let them work. Let’s see how he progresses instead of anointing him after 1 game. It also helps to have a wideout like Hill who can catch a 5 yarder and turn it into 60+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowles Movement Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Jetmech said: Was it three of them? Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk 4 minutes ago, jack48 said: It also helps to have a wideout like Hill who can catch a 5 yarder and turn it into 60+ He threw a nice long pass on another td play but the guy was open by 5-10 yds his shorter throws weren’t thrown with touch and were sometimes not welll placed-receivers had to stop or adjust routes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Bowles Movement said: He threw a nice long pass on another td play but the guy was open by 5-10 yds his shorter throws weren’t thrown with touch and were sometimes not welll placed-receivers had to stop or adjust routes In college he seemed like a guy who zipped it. Haven't seen him much, but I have not seen touch---yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, jack48 said: In college he seemed like a guy who zipped it. Haven't seen him much, but I have not seen touch---yet. His dad was a great hitter-for a pitcher. Not so hot as a pitcher, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 You guys ar crowning him way too fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 12 hours ago, prime21 said: You told us that he would have a good 1st game? Relax Mahomes “ i told you so people”. Wait a couple of seasons for a true assessment. He did look very promising today though. Watson “I told you so’s” are quiet today. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app jimmy g had a 3 pick game too. i guess there goes his won-loss record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, rangerous said: jimmy g had a 3 pick game too. i guess there goes his won-loss record. Vikings D is very good! Harrison Smith is the safety Jamal Adams wishes he could be. Smith is awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 5 hours ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said: I'm on the "I told you so" also. I wrote that I was disgusted that Maccagnan didn't have the guts to grab Mahomes at 6 and instead of course went for the safe consensus pick that doesn't even play a game-changing positions, and took a lot of flack from other posters. Mahomes has an other worldly skill-set whose Ceiling is the Moon and Floor is still going to scare the hell out of every single D-back every week on the opposing side. Now I'm going to make another predication. Mahomes will torch the league in the same way Dan Marino stepped in and did. I'm extremely glad we lucked into Darnold, but I would have rather had Mahomes and 3 #2's, although the point might very well be moot as those 2 might be in the Top 5 of QB's for a long, long time. But don't take this post as a ding against Darnold at all, but one against Maccagnan. As far as Watson goes. Lot of tape on him now....weak arm, not a good combination...studied tape + weak arm, and I was glad Maccagnan didn't take him. Watson ate the Pats up last year. Give Bill Belichick tape & look at yesterday. BB rushed to keep him in the pocket, forced him to make tight window throws & he was terrible. He overthrew like 4 seam passes when his WR had a good yard on the defender & he wasn't even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Wow what happens if Sam beats the Lions tonight? Sainthood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Mahomes would have been the right pick in 2017 and it was a huge risk waiting until 2018 to take a QB since it seems like Mac decided that he liked that draft class better. However, we absolutely struck gold and there is something about Sam that just seems special. Despite how incompetent our team is, he will rise above. HE will attract the right coaching and GM candidates. Mahomes went into a great place. Sam is marching into hell, where QBs go to die and he’s as calm as anything. I’m sorry but screw Mahomes. I’d take Sam over him any day of the week. Let’s revisit this conversation after 3 years and after we properly surround Sam with offensive talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Personally, I wish we had drafted Peterman. That way Bowles and Mac would have been fired in week 2. No small wonder why they never played Hack. Ravens embarrassed the Bills yesterday. You can’t even imagine what the score would have been had Hack played a full game as a Jet against a formidable defense. Mahomes looked incredibly comfortable slinging the ball all over the place. He’s built for today’s NFL’s pass happy mode. But we have Darnold! Be true to thine own QB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 It always amazes me how these out-of-nowhere QB's who go high in the draft have a good game and we start getting "I told you so!" I remember MANY people on this board saying "I will have no problem saying I told you so when Paxton Lynch lights it up for Denver." And then, that didn't happen. And there are about 10 QB's that would have happened with, if they weren't bagging groceries somewhere. Did he have a good game? You bet. I'm sure it doesn't hurt having one of the better OL's in the league, a fantastic running game, two killer WR's and one of the top TE's in the game. But would Mahomes have looked that good had he been behind our current OL and our offensive weapons? Probably not. He could be great....he could also be Browning Nagle first game great. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 For the "it's only one game" crowd, Mahomes bas been lighting it up in preseason and reports are he was incredible in practice. He also played really well against a really good Denver defense in the final game of the regular season last year. For goodness sake ANDY F*CKING REID traded away his pro-bowl one time MVP candidate QB who he hand pick to come with him to KC, just to clear the way for Mahomes to play. So please spare us with the Browning Nagle and Paxton Lynch comparisons. There's always a possibility that Mahomes does not pan out; if that were to happen, I think it's safe to predict that it won't be because he lacks the talent. I'm ecstatic that we ended up with Darnold but still would have preferred Mahomes because of his arm and we play in the northeast. Even if one were to believe that Darnold is a better QB than Mahomes, there is no way he is 3 2nd round picks better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Mahomes looked alright, hill won the game for themSent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Watson had a bad gamne... thats true... still, the good games are 7 or 8, the bad, one... if you ever tell me Adams is a better player, dick punch yourself please, or have your wife do it.. or boyrfriend or SOMEONE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Jetster said: Watson ate the Pats up last year. Give Bill Belichick tape & look at yesterday. BB rushed to keep him in the pocket, forced him to make tight window throws & he was terrible. He overthrew like 4 seam passes when his WR had a good yard on the defender & he wasn't even close. I think he was missing Fuller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Darnold is 100x better than Mahomes and Watson Watson is what he is, he’ll be a bottom third qb in the league for a long time. He’ll have a A. Dalton type career, just a different type of player. Just doesn’t have the arm talent to be a top end qb Now Mahomes could be great, but he absolutely needed to go to a guy like Reid, if he came here he wouldn’t have a shot to succeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 18 hours ago, prime21 said: You told us that he would have a good 1st game? Relax Mahomes “ i told you so people”. Wait a couple of seasons for a true assessment. He did look very promising today though. Watson “I told you so’s” are quiet today. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I watched Watson closely yesterday. He is going to be one of those players who gets injured, sometimes seriously, every freaking year. He is reckless. I'd much rather have Mahomes than Watson. Not a doubt in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 hours ago, legler82 said: For the "it's only one game" crowd, Mahomes bas been lighting it up in preseason and reports are he was incredible in practice. Yippty friggin do....he played well against McDonald's employee's and his own teammates. Maybe Mahomes will be good. Come and talk to me when he puts up back-to-back-to-back 3,500 yards 20+ TD seasons and Kansas City wins some playoff games. Until then, yeah...its only one game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenWhite Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Mahomes will be better than Darnold IMO. In fact I think he will be the best QB in the NFL once Rodgers retires. right now top 3 QBs are Rodgers Mahomes Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 hours ago, legler82 said: For the "it's only one game" crowd, Mahomes bas been lighting it up in preseason and reports are he was incredible in practice. He was throwing INTs by the boatload early in camp. Preseason he was up and down. Nothing bad or great. Incredible nowhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, GreenWhite said: Mahomes will be better than Darnold IMO. In fact I think he will be the best QB in the NFL once Rodgers retires. right now top 3 QBs are Rodgers Mahomes Brady yea...that's calling it a bit too early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, GreenWhite said: Mahomes will be better than Darnold IMO. In fact I think he will be the best QB in the NFL once Rodgers retires. right now top 3 QBs are Rodgers Mahomes Brady Huh ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Creepy Lurker said: Mahomes would have been the right pick in 2017 and it was a huge risk waiting until 2018 to take a QB since it seems like Mac decided that he liked that draft class better. However, we absolutely struck gold and there is something about Sam that just seems special. Despite how incompetent our team is, he will rise above. HE will attract the right coaching and GM candidates. Mahomes went into a great place. Sam is marching into hell, where QBs go to die and he’s as calm as anything. I’m sorry but screw Mahomes. I’d take Sam over him any day of the week. Let’s revisit this conversation after 3 years and after we properly surround Sam with offensive talent. Over the last 2 years the Jets were not making decisions assuming that Bowles was getting replaced. Mahomes could be a great QB in the NFL, but he was not go to work with Bowles. He is not Bowles style. Andy Reid was the perfect coach for Mahomes. I believe Mac and Bowles were also spooked over Watson's arm. If Adams was mild-mannered/reserved he was not getting picked at 6. At 6 last year the Jets picked a personality and culture changer as much as a player. They were not going Lattimore there for whatever reason, which could be Milliner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legler82 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Oh I get it now. Every QB we pass on suck or meh until they "prove" otherwise. Conversely, the ones we draft are great until they prove not to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I think it's important to note that Mahomes ultimately being successful in KC doesn't at all ensure he would have been successful here. Andy Reid gets the most out of every QB he coaches, and that team is loaded with talent. He walked into a perfect situation. If we missed out on a 2017 QB it was Watson, IMO, but Darnold might be better than either. Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Remember Marcus Mariota's first game in the NFL? 13/15, 209, 4 TD's. It amazes me after every season people still go crazy over week 1. Week 1 is basically a preseason game, just the starters play the whole game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, JiF said: Remember Marcus Mariota's first game in the NFL? 13/15, 209, 4 TD's. It amazes me after every season people still go crazy over week 1. Week 1 is basically a preseason game, just the starters play the whole game. Not gonna go crazy over Mahomes yet but the rationale the organization had taking a safety over a QB at 6 last year with the state of the position was beyond asinine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolloffjet Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 31 minutes ago, legler82 said: Oh I get it now. Every QB we pass on suck or meh until they "prove" otherwise. Conversely, the ones we draft are great until they prove not to be. That’s the way I see??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Not gonna go crazy over Mahomes yet but the rationale the organization had taking a safety over a QB at 6 last year with the state of the position was beyond asinine. True and technically, that was Mahomes 2nd game but yeah, I was beating the table for Watson so you're preaching to the choir. Just hoping the Jets got lucky for once and the mistake of taking a box safety at 6 and the combo of the Browns taking Mayfield, somehow helped us get the better QB of the past few classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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