DMan77 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Sounds like the Lions might have been tipping their hand a lil bit. Lions didn't adjust. Jets took advantage, as a good team should. Dan Wetzel on Twitter "A number of Jets defenders said they knew what plays the Lions were going to run based on formation and Stafford hand signals. Allowed them to jump routes, get five picks." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 On his first pick, Lee said he knew from practice what routes the Lions like to run from bunch formation. Lee said he knew he had backside help on the first slant, and that he could sit on the second slant route. Other than that, didn't hear anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Knowing the other team's signals and plays beforehand? That's called the "New England Special". Couldn't have happened to a nicer, fatter apple from a more rotten tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 That actually makes a lot of sense. I just watched the game on Tivo, and it was clear that Stafford was second guessing every read and it was causing him to perform erratically (getting happy feet). That usually happens when the opposing D is in a perfect coverage package. Apparently they recognized the hand signal patterns based on formation type. Anyway, Detroit should have recognized this and gone to their backup (good teams almost always have a backup) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 41 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Knowing the other team's signals and plays beforehand? That's called the "New England Special". Couldn't have happened to a nicer, fatter apple from a more rotten tree. Not to mention it certainly illustrates that it’s not quite a shoulder-shrug of an advantage. Lee in particular looked like a different football player in the 2nd half. I like that we picked up on it when the opportunity presented itself. On the other hand, since this is less likely to happen regularly without the opponent making adjustments - especially with these dumbasses bragging about it after the game - it takes a little away from what the scoreboard showed in terms of future expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 As I mentioned heading into the game Matt Patricia would be exposed once no longer washing and holding the jock straps of both Bill Belichick and Tom Brady and how our Jets would have 10x more team chemistry than that of Detroit making their first start under an overrated head coach in Patricia. Team chemistry is why and how we were able to embarrass the Lions on National Television. This team is starting to gel and click under Todd Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: That's called the "New England Special CHOWDA". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: Not to mention it certainly illustrates that it’s not quite a shoulder-shrug of an advantage. Lee in particular looked like a different football player in the 2nd half. I like that we picked up on it when the opportunity presented itself. On the other hand, since this is less likely to happen regularly without the opponent making adjustments - especially with these dumbasses bragging about it after the game - it takes a little away from what the scoreboard showed in terms of future expectations. yep. i know they are all very happy with the win but they really need to play a little closer to the vest. the next teams will prepare for this. the other point this is still basically extended pre-season so players are still learning their team and new coach. if they played detroit mid season it would be a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Sounds like great coaching. Detroit is going to play the rest of our division..go public with this now so nobody else can get an advantage like we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: Knowing the other team's signals and plays beforehand? That's called the "New England Special". Couldn't have happened to a nicer, fatter apple from a more rotten tree. Watching Matt Patricia take it up the arse was FUN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: Watching Matt Patricia take it up the arse was FUN! Detroit sports talk radio has been great..they are all done with him already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 40 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: Watching Matt Patricia take it up the arse was FUN! He looked like he was going to quit and return to his daddy in NE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOJOTOWNSELL Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 And here is was actually excited about our defense.......figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Why the hell would you advertise this after this game ? Idiotic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Welcome to head coaching Matt Patricia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Maxman said: Sounds like great coaching. QFT Preparation is driven by the coaching staff. players still have to execute it, but the preparation that went into this performance is something I hope we see a lot more of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Patricia looked like he wished he was back in New England. It's easy to look good when your QB is Superman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Patricia looked like he wished he was back in New England. It's easy to look good when your QB is Superman. When will the league learn all of Belichick’s assistants suck balls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, jamesr said: QFT Preparation is driven by the coaching staff. players still have to execute it, but the preparation that went into this performance is something I hope we see a lot more of. There was zero preparation by the coaches if any of this is true. This is negligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 That's prep and homework Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Patricia looked like he wished he was back in New England. It's easy to look good when your QB is Superman. another failure from the BB tree...... without Brady, BB would be a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, NoBowles said: Why the hell would you advertise this after this game ? Idiotic 2 hours ago, Maxman said: Sounds like great coaching. Detroit is going to play the rest of our division..go public with this now so nobody else can get an advantage like we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSJ Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 When will the league learn all of Belichick’s assistants suck balls?They showed a graphic on one of the stations before the game. Every Belichick assistant has a losing record as a head coach. lolSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 minute ago, RSJ said: They showed a graphic on one of the stations before the game. Every Belichick assistant has a losing record as a head coach. lol Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app I actually thought Patricia wouldn’t be as bad as McDaniels and Mangini and it’s only one game so far but not a good look. I’m shocked he let Stafford play again after coming out that was reckless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I dont even know if them saying is a big deal. We dont play them again. I don't know if the Fins can implement a new signal system before Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I know its cliche but every teams CS looks for that advantage watching tape. Sometimes you grab some stuff sometimes you dont. Its not cheating to scrutinize film and hand signals. Nothing new here except Jets CS got er done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I dont even know if them saying is a big deal. We dont play them again. I don't know if the Fins can implement a new signal system before Sunday It’s very rare that hand and arm signals aren’t changed before a game last time I recall this happening was Jimmy Johnson not doing it in 1998 because he gave up and was pissed about having to play Dan Marino. Pete Carrol also forgot to do it once when he was the patriots coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 55 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I dont even know if them saying is a big deal. We dont play them again. I don't know if the Fins can implement a new signal system before Sunday Yup it honestly isn’t that big of a deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 1 hour ago, RSJ said: They showed a graphic on one of the stations before the game. Every Belichick assistant has a losing record as a head coach. lol Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app and BB has a losing record as a head coach without Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: Yup it honestly isn’t that big of a deal Correct....It happens all the time, everyone is trying to do the same. Sounds more like the Jets guessed right a few times and it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 7 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: Not to mention it certainly illustrates that it’s not quite a shoulder-shrug of an advantage. Lee in particular looked like a different football player in the 2nd half. I like that we picked up on it when the opportunity presented itself. On the other hand, since this is less likely to happen regularly without the opponent making adjustments - especially with these dumbasses bragging about it after the game - it takes a little away from what the scoreboard showed in terms of future expectations. Based on what I heard from Lee - what the knew was nothing news, just seems like he's finally getting it and making faster decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Why the **** would you publicly say that Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Philc1 said: There was zero preparation by the coaches if any of this is true. This is negligence Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 It is unacceptable to admit this. Now you won't have this advantage in the future because other teams will learn. Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 4 hours ago, jamesr said: QFT Preparation is driven by the coaching staff. players still have to execute it, but the preparation that went into this performance is something I hope we see a lot more of. 4 hours ago, Philc1 said: There was zero preparation by the coaches if any of this is true. This is negligence 1 hour ago, jamesr said: Huh? Phil misread your first post as a condemnation of Detroit's coaching staff not preparing, instead of your post praising the Jets' coaching staff for great preparation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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