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1 hour ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Maras are probably happy that they got one of the most exciting running backs in the league who had a great first game.

They dont care about Sam Darnold.  

Have to agree there. Unless Darnold goes on to have a long and illustrious career. This is something that cannot be decided in one or two seasons. 

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9 minutes ago, nyjunc said:

Their QB didn't get them there, great defense got them there.  It's similar to Sanchez and the title games, no jet fan says mark got us there. He played well just as Eli did in his runs but ultimately it was the D that did the heavy lifting.  The Giants have missed the playoffs 7 of 9 seasons and the one recent one they made Eli was horrible.  Is great to have appreciation but Eli isn't an all time great, NYG should have moved on from him years ago.

Their loss, our gain

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5 hours ago, RevisIsland610 said:

He's a very good player but they still should have taken Darnold. 

This.

Both the Jets and Giants look like they hit home runs in this Draft.  And, who knows, maybe Barkley turns out to be a better RB than Sam does a QB.  But it simply comes down to position.  QB is THE premiere position in football.  RB isn’t even in the top 4 or 5.  We’re seeing it every year, RBs drafted in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounds and leading the NFL in rushing.  Kamara, Kareem Hunt, Mixon, Dalvin Cook, etc.  All these guys are top RBs and you don’t need to use a 1st round pick to get them.

The biggest problem the Giants have isn’t that Barkley won’t work out.  He will.  He’s going to be great.  But, they’ve now really put the pressure on this team to win now.  Eli has a year or two left....he probably doesn’t have 3 or 4 though.  The other problem is that by being a #2 pick the value of that 5th year option for Barkley isn’t going to be cheap.  They’re paying a LOT for a RB and they will continue to do so as long as he’s on the team.

From CBS in April (prior to Gurley’s deal)....

”The rookie wage scale implemented in 2011 by the current Collective Bargaining Agreement is designed to prevent top draft picks from being one of the highest-paid players at their respective positions. It isn't the case with running backs because of the sharp decline in the top of the market in recent years. The Falcons' Devonta Freeman is the current benchmark for long-term deals at $8.25 million per year. 

Barkley, the second-overall pick by the Giants, will become the third-highest paid running back on a long-term deal when he signs his contract. His fully guaranteed four-year deal is expected to be approximately $31.2 million ($7.8 million per year). Barkley's fifth-year option in 2022 will be in the $11.75 million neighborhood, provided there's similar salary-cap growth as in recent years and the percentage of the cap running backs take up in the option calculations remains constant. 

This dynamic is why there's a view that taking Barkley so high isn't a good value despite him being considered by some to be the best running-back draft prospect in the last 25 years. The same issue with value wouldn't exist if the Giants had taken defensive end/outside linebacker Bradley Chubbinstead of Barkley. There are 23 edge rushers with long-team deals averaging more than the second-overall pick's projected contract.

Not only will Barkley have the most guaranteed money in any existing running-back contract but he'll have the second most guarantees ever for a ball carrier. Adrian Peterson holds the record with the $36 million of guarantees in the six-year, $85.28 million contract extension ($14,213,333 average yearly salary) he received from the Vikings in 2011.”

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On 9/12/2018 at 9:51 PM, Matt39 said:

They think they can squeeze another Super Bowl run out of Eli and are enjoying the publicity Odell brings as it compensates for the team not being any good.

odell always gets hurt.  what has he played--one entire season, if that?

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18 hours ago, Joe W. Namath said:

Maras are probably happy that they got one of the most exciting running backs in the league who had a great first game.

They dont care about Sam Darnold.  

he had a great play, an amazing run, in fact.  Far from a great game. He did not help them move the sticks at all.  Not saying he won't.

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20 hours ago, nyjunc said:

Their QB didn't get them there, great defense got them there.  It's similar to Sanchez and the title games, no jet fan says mark got us there. He played well just as Eli did in his runs but ultimately it was the D that did the heavy lifting.  The Giants have missed the playoffs 7 of 9 seasons and the one recent one they made Eli was horrible.  Is great to have appreciation but Eli isn't an all time great, NYG should have moved on from him years ago.

And without 2 incredible lucky catches the outcome would have been different.

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What we all hope for is that Saquon Barkley is eventually known as the NFL version of Sam Bowie.  In fact, I don't care if he has a much better career than Bowie. I just hope he's looked at as the biggest draft blunder in NFL history for going one pick ahead of the GOAT.  That would be nice.

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16 hours ago, Freemanm said:

Did you see Saquon’s TD run? I’m not saying that they should have picked him with the #2 overall, but it was a great run

So, Crowells run was better.  How many articles were printed about how great a game he had?  

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On ‎9‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 1:30 PM, #27TheDominator said:

Benching Eli to take a look at your young QB made sense.  Benching Eli and killing his iron man streak for Geno Smith was insulting and moronic.

The absolute dumbest thing I have seen since the pass in the SB by Seattle that was picked off at the end of the game. Don't get why Jet fans are so enamored with the Giants. They really have nothing at all to do with us. We got our QB and they got a stud RB. Nothing more, nothing less - until next season when they paly each other for real.

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27 minutes ago, NoBowles said:

Lets hope that the Giants are regretting their decision for the next 20 years. Right now, its way too early to hurt our shoulders giving ourselves a reach around. I am as excited as anyone about Sam, but lets not count the money yet.

Buy one of these. That’ll solve any shoulder issues that may come up.

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On 9/13/2018 at 12:56 PM, Joe W. Namath said:

Maras are probably happy that they got one of the most exciting running backs in the league who had a great first game.

They dont care about Sam Darnold.  

Who had a worse stat line than Crowell week 1, who we scooped up from the scrap heap for pennies on the dollar. Good call.

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