Losmeister Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: they dont realize its not important if we actually win games!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, Losmeister said: they dont realize its not important if we actually win games!!! disgusting isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The Jets are losing the next 2 games. Just root for Sam to keep learning and stays healthy. Accept it and move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 hours ago, kevinc855 said: With Jaguars and Broncos in following weeks it seems me we need this. Even if not for wins and losses for the confidence of Sam as well. Jets need to show up Thursday Well it depends on what you mean by must win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Larz said: Love love love him Saw him live last year locally. He's great. And clean, so people can bring their kids. It's impressive these days for comedians to be clean and still be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Losmeister said: they dont realize its not important if we actually win games!!! It's not. Look at the tanks in the MLB. And in the nFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 If we have any dreams or aspirations of making the playoffs, then yes Cleveland is a must win. I'd hate to be 1-2 before having to play Jacksonville. Being 2-1 with a chance of fighting Jacksonville for 3-1 overall would excite this fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Saw him live last year locally. He's great. And clean, so people can bring their kids. It's impressive these days for comedians to be clean and still be funny. Poptarts instructions is one of my all time favorite bits Seinfeld had him on comedians in cars twice easily two of the best episodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 not quite yet but in a couple of years, this is the team the Jets will be fighting in the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 hours ago, kevinc855 said: With Jaguars and Broncos in following weeks it seems me we need this. Even if not for wins and losses for the confidence of Sam as well. Jets need to show up Thursday I think they’ll tie at the very least if they don’t show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvj Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Here's hoping Sam Vs Mayfield becomes an epic rivalry that Sam wins 100% of the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsYanks13 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 If we want to make the playoffs, then yes.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 hours ago, bealeb319 said: The browns are a good team this year probably playoffs good we will not be the only team to lose to them this season Sent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app The best defense out of the first 3 games that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4-6 win teams don’t have must win games. It’s almost the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Losmeister said: they dont realize its not important if we actually win games!!! Well, Chris Johnson did say he was having a blast with them at 5-11 so maybe the bar is just really low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 hours ago, peebag said: This year is all about getting the youngsters ready and to thin out the JAGs on the team. So who are we sucking for this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Beerfish said: DUMB and DUMBER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: Well, Chris Johnson did say he was having a blast with them at 5-11 so maybe the bar is just really low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 10 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: So who are we sucking for this year? Whoever makes Giants fans whine like little b*tches when we take them.....AGAIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayEeeTeeEss Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Very tough game. Browns could have easily been 2-0 if their kicker was competent. I'm just worried that the stingy Browns defense might rough up Darnold. I don't mind if we lose. I just don't wanna see number 14 get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: The Jets are losing the next 2 games. Just root for Sam to keep learning and stays healthy. Accept it and move on Well, that’s that. Can you wake us up before the Denver game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Stark said: lol. okay Browns have talent, especially on defence. They're just horrendously coached and their QB is a backup masquerading as a starter. Browns should just bite the bullet and put Mayfield in the game, because Taylor will lead them nowhere. Hopefully they do this after week 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 hours ago, kevinc855 said: With Jaguars and Broncos in following weeks it seems me we need this. Even if not for wins and losses for the confidence of Sam as well. Jets need to show up Thursday Its a must win. Folks look at 1-1 and thinknof 14 games left on the season. Actually when you break it down by months you average 4 games per month and you want to win atleast 3 of them. This is also a conference game. This is a must win if the next goal is trying to make the playoffs. You dont want to lose to the Browns, then go play the Jags to end out the month, with the Broncos, Colts, Vikings and Bears for your October schedule. The worst schedule in a month should be 2-2. Beating the Browns will guarantee atleast that for September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Gastineau Lives said: Oh, I guess you don't know how to read. Got it. You don't know how to read. The 1-0 illiterate I guess you know how football works when you equate a kicker to an entire offensive line and receiving corps. As if we didn't just find our kicker five ******* minutes ago, smart guy. Now, what is your point besides trying to make yourself feel smart by taking apart one part of a post and playing wiseass? This is the Mafia equivalent of shooting @Stark in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 hours ago, yvj said: Here's hoping Sam Vs Mayfield becomes an epic rivalry that Sam wins 100% of the time Wouldn't be much of a rivalry then, would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayBen Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 hour ago, JayEeeTeeEss said: Very tough game. Browns could have easily been 2-0 if their kicker was competent. I'm just worried that the stingy Browns defense might rough up Darnold. I don't mind if we lose. I just don't wanna see number 14 get hurt. Myles Garrett is something special. They're defense bottled up NO for most of the game last sunday. Very nervous for thursday, browns are not what they were the last two years. I just hope we are smart enough to take them seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 8 hours ago, ChuckkieB said: I disagree. If the team is truly going in the right direction finally (and I think they are), they should at least be able to win games against inferior opponents, and that's what the Browns are. Yes, this year is about nurturing our shiny new QB and other young players, but the team still needs to win the games they're supposed to win. A loss to the Browns would be disappointing. I think they have to win the game. I think the Browns are saying the same thing about the Jets. I personally don't think the Browns are inferior to the Jets. If not for a Kicker they are 2-0 with wins over Pittsburgh and New Orleans. Quite honestly, the NFL is being turned on its head right now. There isn't much certainty around who the best teams are (the undefeated Tampa Bay Bucs?) and who the horrible teams are (the winless Seahawks, Texans, Steelers?). I do agree that we should be seeing the Jets beat teams they are better than....I'm just not sure I know who those teams are yet. Is Miami good? They beat Tennessee and Tennessee beat Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I want to win. But if losing ushers out this trash: Bring on the losses...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Depends - if you really believe we can win a wildcard spot - then yes it's a must win.Wild card? But what if you think the pig is ripe for a reaming?Double must-win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Well, it's kind of a must win for bowles. his teams do seem to come out flat although i think they came out pretty good on sunday. This week is the test Todd Bowles needs to pass By Mark Cannizzaro September 17, 2018 | 11:29pm Modal Trigg There was a moment Friday, two days before the Jets would produce that underachieving effort in the 20-12 home-opening loss to the Dolphins, when a television reporter asked Todd Bowles what he saw from Sam Darnold in the week following the season-opening win in Detroit. The usually stoic Jets coach, who’ll never be confused as one of the SNL comedic cast members, broke into a sustained laugh that lasted several uncomfortable moments because it was so out of character. The message in Bowles’ laughter was quite clear: He perceived the question as a silly one. The moment felt patronizing, and Bowles, who would soon realize it, apologized, straightened his expression and answered, “He was very composed and he was the same Sam we saw in the spring and summer.’’ The reporter followed up by noting that Darnold, as a 21-year-old rookie quarterback, was going to be experiencing a number of firsts in his career and wondered what struck him as so funny about the question. “I didn’t expect him to go from Jekyll to Hyde, if that’s what you’re asking,’’ Bowles said. “He’s going to be the same guy everyday, but he’s fine.’’ As it turned out Sunday, Bowles’ assessment of his young quarterback was spot-on. Darnold, even while experiencing his first loss as a pro, was the same composed, mature guy against Miami that he was against the Lions and he was, indeed, fine. The problem is that too many of the rest of Bowles’ players went from Jekyll to Hyde across the span of the six days from Jets 48, Lions 17 last Monday night to Dolphins 20, Jets 12 on Sunday. The Jets committed seven penalties for 50 yards, including two killer defensive holding infractions (on cornerbacks Mo Claiborne and Buster Skrine) that negated sacks of Ryan Tannehill on third downs, extending Dolphins’ drives, one of which ended in a TD and a 20-0 lead. Later, with the Jets trailing 20-6 in the fourth quarter, consecutive false starts on guards Brian Winters and James Carpenter put the offense in a first-and-20 hole and led to it settling for a long field goal to cut the lead to 20-9 instead of a TD that would have cut it to 20-13. “Lack of execution, penalties and then turnovers,’’ is how Jets receiver Quincy Enunwa described the day. “Honestly, we beat ourselves. We just kind of gave the game away.’’ And then this from Enunwa: “We just came out flat.’’ Few phrases are more damning of a head coach than that one. To be clear: Enunwa was not indicting Bowles. He was merely stating what he felt and saw out there. But one of the most critical traits of a good NFL head coach are his motivational skills and fielding a disciplined team, and sometimes Bowles leaves you wondering how good he is at those things. On a Sunday when Giants coach Pat Shurmur was being excoriated for the way his team was outclassed by the Cowboys on the road, Bowles got a bit of a free pass. The truth is Bowles was hardly at his best against Miami based on his team’s lack of discipline and failure to jump on the Dolphins early with the home crowd poised to explode and become a true 12th-man advantage. There are too many times when Bowles’ teams don’t look ready. He leaves you to wonder if his low-key demeanor leads to players becoming lackadaisical because there isn’t enough fear of repercussion. The Jets inability to handle prosperity under the watch of Bowles has been alarming. Were his players seduced by their blowout of the Lions when they took the field against the Dolphins on Sunday? It’s a fair question that has no definitive answer. But it sure looked that way as they fell behind 20-0 in the first half. This is not to suggest Bowles’ job should be in jeopardy after two games, but it does raise this question: What are his best attributes as a head coach? Bowles’ contract runs through 2020, and there’s been an assumption that the 2018 record doesn’t matter after two consecutive 5-11 finishes because he’s grooming a rookie quarterback. But you have to wonder if, because Darnold already has proven himself to be perhaps more mature and NFL-ready than many thought he might be, that’s raised the bar a little higher for Bowles. It seems likely another 5-11 finish won’t be good enough to warrant a fifth year for him. A good barometer of how well Bowles is able to get his team ready to play stands right in front of the Jets with their Thursday night game against a Browns team that is 1-32-1 dating back to the start of the 2016 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 must win for bowles? maybe. it's not going to look good for this team to lose to the browns. This week is the test Todd Bowles needs to pass By Mark Cannizzaro September 17, 2018 | 11:29pm Modal TriThere was a moment Friday, two days before the Jets would produce that underachieving effort in the 20-12 home-opening loss to the Dolphins, when a television reporter asked Todd Bowles what he saw from Sam Darnold in the week following the season-opening win in Detroit. The usually stoic Jets coach, who’ll never be confused as one of the SNL comedic cast members, broke into a sustained laugh that lasted several uncomfortable moments because it was so out of character. The message in Bowles’ laughter was quite clear: He perceived the question as a silly one. The moment felt patronizing, and Bowles, who would soon realize it, apologized, straightened his expression and answered, “He was very composed and he was the same Sam we saw in the spring and summer.’’ The reporter followed up by noting that Darnold, as a 21-year-old rookie quarterback, was going to be experiencing a number of firsts in his career and wondered what struck him as so funny about the question. “I didn’t expect him to go from Jekyll to Hyde, if that’s what you’re asking,’’ Bowles said. “He’s going to be the same guy everyday, but he’s fine.’’ As it turned out Sunday, Bowles’ assessment of his young quarterback was spot-on. Darnold, even while experiencing his first loss as a pro, was the same composed, mature guy against Miami that he was against the Lions and he was, indeed, fine. The problem is that too many of the rest of Bowles’ players went from Jekyll to Hyde across the span of the six days from Jets 48, Lions 17 last Monday night to Dolphins 20, Jets 12 on Sunday. The Jets committed seven penalties for 50 yards, including two killer defensive holding infractions (on cornerbacks Mo Claiborne and Buster Skrine) that negated sacks of Ryan Tannehill on third downs, extending Dolphins’ drives, one of which ended in a TD and a 20-0 lead. Later, with the Jets trailing 20-6 in the fourth quarter, consecutive false starts on guards Brian Winters and James Carpenter put the offense in a first-and-20 hole and led to it settling for a long field goal to cut the lead to 20-9 instead of a TD that would have cut it to 20-13. “Lack of execution, penalties and then turnovers,’’ is how Jets receiver Quincy Enunwa described the day. “Honestly, we beat ourselves. We just kind of gave the game away.’’ And then this from Enunwa: “We just came out flat.’’ Few phrases are more damning of a head coach than that one. To be clear: Enunwa was not indicting Bowles. He was merely stating what he felt and saw out there. But one of the most critical traits of a good NFL head coach are his motivational skills and fielding a disciplined team, and sometimes Bowles leaves you wondering how good he is at those things. On a Sunday when Giants coach Pat Shurmur was being excoriated for the way his team was outclassed by the Cowboys on the road, Bowles got a bit of a free pass. The truth is Bowles was hardly at his best against Miami based on his team’s lack of discipline and failure to jump on the Dolphins early with the home crowd poised to explode and become a true 12th-man advantage. There are too many times when Bowles’ teams don’t look ready. He leaves you to wonder if his low-key demeanor leads to players becoming lackadaisical because there isn’t enough fear of repercussion. The Jets inability to handle prosperity under the watch of Bowles has been alarming. Were his players seduced by their blowout of the Lions when they took the field against the Dolphins on Sunday? It’s a fair question that has no definitive answer. But it sure looked that way as they fell behind 20-0 in the first half. This is not to suggest Bowles’ job should be in jeopardy after two games, but it does raise this question: What are his best attributes as a head coach? Bowles’ contract runs through 2020, and there’s been an assumption that the 2018 record doesn’t matter after two consecutive 5-11 finishes because he’s grooming a rookie quarterback. But you have to wonder if, because Darnold already has proven himself to be perhaps more mature and NFL-ready than many thought he might be, that’s raised the bar a little higher for Bowles. It seems likely another 5-11 finish won’t be good enough to warrant a fifth year for him. A good barometer of how well Bowles is able to get his team ready to play stands right in front of the Jets with their Thursday night game against a Browns team that is 1-32-1 dating back to the start of the 2016 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 And then this from Enunwa: “We just came out flat.’’ Under Bowles we've seen this play out many times. It's alarming. Home opener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jetster said: And then this from Enunwa: “We just came out flat.’’ Under Bowles we've seen this play out many times. It's alarming. Home opener. it didn't look flat to me, it looked sloppy af. Many players making basic, egregious mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRL Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jetster said: And then this from Enunwa: “We just came out flat.’’ Under Bowles we've seen this play out many times. It's alarming. Home opener. That quote is straight from the athlete's "cliche handbook", where they are trying to get through an interview and they throw that out if they lost. The Jets were not flat, there was too much energy in the building and on the field. They didn't take care of the ball and didn't execute offensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 minute ago, KRL said: That quote is straight from the athlete's "cliche handbook", where they are trying to get through an interview and they throw that out if they lost. The Jets were not flat, there was too much energy in the building and on the field. They didn't take care of the ball and didn't execute offensively They lost the battles of field positions and turnovers early, and then continued to make mistakes. That happens to every team at points. They looked like a team coming off a big Monday night win on a short week, which teams have a bad habit of doing. It can't continue. How they recover this week will be a key. Certainly not a "must win" at week 3, which is quite silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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