ChuckkieB Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 I don't care what the matchups look like or who they favor - the Jets need to come out on fire and take the fight to the Browns immediately on both sides of the ball. This will of course depend largely on how well Bowles has motivated the team and the prep work and gameplan in place. I think this game is going to be a reflection on our coaching staff as much as it is our young players. Two wins in 11 days with a rookie QB will impress the hell out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: how well Bowles has motivated the team i have always thought this is the biggest myth of all... the motivating aspects of coaches... pffft prep and practice, PUNTO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMan77 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Honestly doesn't feel like a great matchup for the Jets... And that's almost completely because of our offensive line issues. The Jets might struggle to rush the ball, and they'll have a tough time setting any kind of outside edge, and I expect the Brown's secondary to bait Sam into a couple bad throws. He's learning, but there are still rookie mistakes to be made. If we win this one it's going to be on the defense's shoulders, I think. A couple of turnovers to set the tone early would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 13 hours ago, Larz said: I think it's garbage time in the 3rd quarter again and Sam stamps this sh*t with a dominant performance If the line can block and he gets a little help from the damn receivers it’s possible. If not another trash can loss like the Dolphins lost. Two terrible sloppy teams with one losing and the other not losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Spy the crap out of Tyrod and put Trumaine Johnson on Landry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 It's not surprising to me how damaged and shell shocked from years of mediocrity or worse us Jets fans are where we are picking apart a matchup with the Browns, a team that hasn't been able to win their way out of a paper bag for two years, and looking for reasons why we won't win. SCREW THAT. The Jets are winning this game because the Browns are hot garbage until proven otherwise. Coming close in a few games is not proof of any kind of leap for them. They are winless in 2018 and will be winless after this game. Despite what the oddsmakers say, the Jets should win this game, and they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 12:57 AM, Jetsfan80 said: Browns will make us one dimensional on offense if I had to guess. I doubt we get much of a push from the line and run the ball well. So on offense, it falls heavily on Darnold. On the other side of the ball, Tyrod Taylor knows us well, and has mostly owned us over the years. So I also don't really love our chances to shut down the Browns offense. At least not the passing game. So if we're going to win, it all comes down to Darnold. I believe in the kid and like that he's facing tough games like these early. So he gives us a shot. But I don't really believe in many other guys on the roster at the moment. Why? I think the Fins have a much better run D (9th) than the Browns (20th). John Connor had 135 yards against the Browns in week 1 while the Fins held the Titans vaunted running attack to 116 with Dion Lewis, Derrick Henry and Marcus Marriotta, and on 7 out of 9 Titan possessions the Fins held them to under 15 yards --- Under 10 total yards rushing on 6 of those possessions!. And the bottom line is that the Cleveland's D is the 20th ranked Run D. I would also point out that Cleveland's O has not seen a D like the Jets. In Total Yards, Points, Run, and Pass the Jets are 5, 6, 11, and 8. The Browns previous opponents are 25, 28, 30, and 14 (Pitt) and 29, 30, 17, and 29 (NO). The Browns scored 21 and 18 points against these woeful D's which let up 42 and 48 points to their other opponents. My prediction is that the Jets D will dominate the Browns O, the Jets will be effective in both the Run and Pass game on Offense, have a lead at halftime and blow it open late in the 3rd or early in the 4th quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 22 hours ago, RoadFan said: The Browns have the best turnover margin in the league through two games. Plus 6 The nearest competitors are the Bengals and Rams at plus 3. They have played the Steelers and Saints. Ben... Drew... and a myriad of other very good offensive players. Tyrod Taylor is a flawed player, but one thing he does not do is turn the ball over. Neither team is well coached. Browns at home on a short week. Jets have the edge on "moxie." Browns win 22-20 in an ugly one. Steelers are not good. Don't look at the box score... watch the games... They are on there way to a 5-6 win season. Saints are 1 dimensional right now with no Ingram. Taylor doesn't turn the ball over but he also doesn't win games. Forcing Taylor into throwing the ball is recipe for success Jets are better coach then Jets fans realize Jets 26 - 9 Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Spy the crap out of Tyrod and put Trumaine Johnson on Landry Put Nickerson on Landry... I think that punk could get into Landry's head, Bracket the inside routes with Lee and outside with Middleton. Put Johnson on Callaway and Mo on Hollywood. So in essence single cover man to man on Hollywood and Callaway. Double team Landry. Rush 3, Spy Taylor, Lee on Njoku. Win Jets D. Just beat up Landry.... he loves inside routes and slants.... punish him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 9:11 AM, slats said: Welcome to your 2018 New York Jets, where facing the Cleveland Browns constitutes a "tough game." A defense that held Pittsburgh & NO to a combined 42 points is very tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 12:57 AM, Jetsfan80 said: Browns will make us one dimensional on offense if I had to guess. I doubt we get much of a push from the line and run the ball well. So on offense, it falls heavily on Darnold. On the other side of the ball, Tyrod Taylor knows us well, and has mostly owned us over the years. So I also don't really love our chances to shut down the Browns offense. At least not the passing game. So if we're going to win, it all comes down to Darnold. I believe in the kid and like that he's facing tough games like these early. So he gives us a shot. But I don't really believe in many other guys on the roster at the moment. On defense, make Tyrod throw short. He is really inaccurate on the short to medium stuff. Keep your hands up and stay wide on the rush. In other words, make him throw it, dont let him run, and take away the deep ball. On offense, throw to set up the run. But run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: Why? I think the Fins have a much better run D (9th) than the Browns (20th). John Connor had 135 yards against the Browns in week 1 while the Fins held the Titans vaunted running attack to 116 with Dion Lewis, Derrick Henry and Marcus Marriotta, and on 7 out of 9 Titan possessions the Fins held them to under 15 yards --- Under 10 total yards rushing on 6 of those possessions!. And the bottom line is that the Cleveland's D is the 20th ranked Run D. I would also point out that Cleveland's O has not seen a D like the Jets. In Total Yards, Points, Run, and Pass the Jets are 5, 6, 11, and 8. The Browns previous opponents are 25, 28, 30, and 14 (Pitt) and 29, 30, 17, and 29 (NO). The Browns scored 21 and 18 points against these woeful D's which let up 42 and 48 points to their other opponents. My prediction is that the Jets D will dominate the Browns O, the Jets will be effective in both the Run and Pass game on Offense, have a lead at halftime and blow it open late in the 3rd or early in the 4th quarter. Plus, the Phins had the advantage of playing a Jet team in its home opener, a week after it had inflicted slaughter on its opponent. That is a formula for success-- if I ever heard one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 4 hours ago, The Crusher said: If the line can block and he gets a little help from the damn receivers it’s possible. If not another trash can loss like the Dolphins lost. Two terrible sloppy teams with one losing and the other not losing. I am almost certain that Blowes will come out ultra conservative. I hate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 8:39 AM, Jetster said: I'm only interested on if we show up. This has been Bowles calling card, show up, no show, show up, no show. For a coach that tries to show that he keeps his emotions in check that doesn't mean you have to look like you flatlined with your eyes open. Under Bowles the Jets go up & down like waves in the ocean. The problem is we never seem to find something right in the middle with just a solid 60 minute fundementally solid performance. I want to see one game this guy coaches where I say, "wow, I love the way they attacked the pass rush", or "awesome, Buster Skrine is on the bench". I still can't believe we gave up a 3rd & 19 against Ryan Tannyhill & Frank Gore, oh who am I kidding, I've been watching Bowles/Rogers for 3 years, I had no doubt in the back of my mind we were going to f*ck up that opportunity to get the ball back. "Adjustments? We don't need no lousy adjustments." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 33 minutes ago, jack48 said: I am almost certain that Blowes will come out ultra conservative. I hate that. Bates has been aggressive so far. Actually too aggressive you could say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 20 minutes ago, Larz said: Bates has been aggressive so far. Actually too aggressive you could say Exactly... I see them coming out throwing bombs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Larz said: Bates has been aggressive so far. Actually too aggressive you could say Yes, but after a loss, I think Todd clenches up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Keys to the game: If we turn the ball over, D needs to hold them to 3. The fins turned our turnovers into 7 which killed us. Our D needs to force turnovers. We need a special night from the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 9:11 AM, jgb said: I predict a huge party in Cleveland NFL has done everything in their power to see the Browns get a win tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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