Doggin94it Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I get that our OL is not exactly the 7 Blocks of Granite, but he is calling a scared, scared game. There are essentially no "shot" plays in the game plan, nothing that threatens the defense vertically, and the result is exactly what it was in the bum-wing Chad Pennington days: A defense that plays packed into a short area, tougher to run against and tougher to break into the open against, because they're only defending a 15x50 yard area instead of the whole field. They need to turn Darnold loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Kind of hard to turn your QB loose when he is running g for his life every play. We also have nobody on O. Kerse, Anderson, Crowell, Powell, Enunwa isn't going to cut it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 It is on Bowles. He is the head coach. Buck stops with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsYanks13 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Sny crew is ripping the defense Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Penalties and Robby Anderson 2 weeks in a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I'm not convinced that Darnold has the capacity to sling it downfield without it turning into a duck. His deep balls do not look like they have enough juice behind them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 You mean u have an issue with running twice for -1 yards and then throwing on 3 and 12? Or gaining 21 yards on a run and coming back with more runs to the same side? Or running to the same side like 8 times in a row until you end up in a third and long? Those all seem fine to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Been saying the same he played it very conservative until he couldnt last week, same this game Gah!! And the female host just said Darnold was drinking and dunking as I'm typing this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Jet Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Just now, JetsYanks13 said: Sny crew is ripping the defense Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Should be on the defensive coordinator and on Bowles for playing soft in the middle when Mayfield entered the game. Seemed like they had no idea how to stop him. Mayfield was hurt more by his receiver drops than his opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Anyone can lob a sideline deep pass to Robby to keep the defense honest, you don’t need arm strength for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I don't know. I really think we could have run a few more screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 When was there ever time to take any shots tonight? Darnold was under duress almost immediately every pass play that wasn't a quick screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Yet another OC our fans hate. For the record I think Bates has been fine so far. We just couldn’t pass block. Browns have a talented defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 The coaching staff is terrible. Terrible playcalling on offense and defense. They have made Sam play scared and ruined his confidence. This will be a long season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: I get that our OL is not exactly the 7 Blocks of Granite, but he is calling a scared, scared game. There are essentially no "shot" plays in the game plan, nothing that threatens the defense vertically, and the result is exactly what it was in the bum-wing Chad Pennington days: A defense that plays packed into a short area, tougher to run against and tougher to break into the open against, because they're only defending a 15x50 yard area instead of the whole field. They need to turn Darnold loose. No. They don't. Bates has done exactly what he is supposed to. Get the ball out quick against nasty pass rushes. KEEP DARNOLD IN ONE PIECE. Too many of you... "Sam should be the week 1 starter!" 3 games in 11 days. A bad OL that was banged up in training camp and didn't play together much. Jet lagged from travel, not fully fit from camp injuries, not enough time to recuperate, etc. This is the result. What the hell did you expect !?!? How many times do you people have to be told the same thing?!?! The goal in Sacksonville is not to " turn Darnold loose." They kicked the sh*t out of Brady... It is to get him back to Florham Park healthy. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, JetsYanks13 said: Sny crew is ripping the defense Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app They deserve to be ripped, second half they were a no show, and a rookie in his first action tore them up outscoring them 21-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Yet another OC our fans hate. For the record I think Bates has been fine so far. We just couldn’t pass block. Browns have a talented defense. Not one long pass in a league where PI is called more and more every week.. Us? None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 The only reason our offense was somewhat passable last year was because McCown could throw deep and Anderson can fly. Judging off the first 3 games, Darnold’s obvious weakness is the out pattern and the bomb. Teams are going to take away the short stuff and the Jets don’t have the oline to run the ball consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsYanks13 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 You have to wonder how much input Bowles has on the offensive game plan. That’s what we need to find out. You have to remember, this is the west coast offense and these are the plays as a result.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 bowles should be fired for the last two weeks. If I performed like him for two weeks with millions of dollars on the line I would be fired. He has done a horrible job with both sides of the ball. He is coaching scard and putting the rookie qb out there to fail rather then win. Run blocking should be the easier then pass blocking run the ball use play action. All the penalties and the behavior is on coaching not preparing the players coaching again. Dont let him on the plane just fire him. A fan could coach and play call better then that moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR24 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Kind of hard to turn your QB loose when he is running g for his life every play. We also have nobody on O. Kerse, Anderson, Crowell, Powell, Enunwa isn't going to cut it. "Josh Gordon doesn't fit here our WRs are above average" lol saw that so many times on here and twitter. for a 5th round pick (that Mac would whiff on anyway) it shoulda been done in a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 We have a sh*tty oline, mediocre rbs, no wrs other than enunwa and no tight ends and a 21 year old qb and it is the ocs fault. The finger can be squarely pointed at the general manager imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Just now, Beerfish said: We have a sh*tty oline, mediocre rbs, no wrs other than enunwa and no tight ends and a 21 year old qb and it is the ocs fault. The finger can be squarely pointed at the general manager imo Anderson can play. He’s been totally neutered by Darnold. Fumbling aside, he didn’t just forget how to get open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Just now, Matt39 said: Anderson can play. He’s been totally neutered by Darnold. Fumbling aside, he didn’t just forget how to get open. His gaff was the big turning point in the game and he can play by running 9 routes. He scares exactly no one other than doing a streak. And with an oline as awful as the one we have no one is throwing deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevisIsland610 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I feel OC is just too conservative with this game plan. I understand we dont want INT's but they have to mix it up and stretch the field. It didn't look like Cleveland was coddling Mayfield in his first game of his career and he was superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 37 minutes ago, More Cowbell said: Kind of hard to turn your QB loose when he is running g for his life every play. We also have nobody on O. Kerse, Anderson, Crowell, Powell, Enunwa isn't going to cut it. Pretty much. What offense do you run when your QB is erratic, your OL sucks, and nobody can get open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 25 minutes ago, SR24 said: "Josh Gordon doesn't fit here our WRs are above average" lol saw that so many times on here and twitter. for a 5th round pick (that Mac would whiff on anyway) it shoulda been done in a heartbeat That's ok, we don't need a drug addict that shows up late for meetings and skips out on camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Anderson can play. He’s been totally neutered by Darnold. Fumbling aside, he didn’t just forget how to get open. LMAO. Fumbling aside? Seriously? That was critical, we were up 14-0. Your nuts. Robbie sux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 25 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Anderson can play. He’s been totally neutered by Darnold. Fumbling aside, he didn’t just forget how to get open. Anderson should be benched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Incorrect, Todd bowles is to blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 So we've blown out a bad team and we've lost reasonably close games to two seemingly .500 teams. To quote Dennis Green, "the Jets are who we thought they were!"....a slightly less than .500 team most likely. This is shaping up as most predicted...something like 7-9 or 6-10 with a rookie QB. Inopportune penalties and a turnover deep in Jets territory are probably the most significant reasons for the loss, along with conservative play calling on O with a lead in the 2nd Half. The Jets generated 17 points, all on offense, without ever having the benefit of decent field position. In fact, we were often starting inside our own 20 and then backing ourselves up with 5 yard penalties. The Browns also have a decent defense. I can't say this should have been unexpected. I think the Browns were due... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 50 minutes ago, Mike135 said: I don't know. I really think we could have run a few more screens. At least he mixed them up left side to right side. Terrible job by Bates- Sams running for his life - no quick tosses - nothing over the middle. Total crap passing play call except when those screens were working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Aussie Jet said: It is on Bowles. He is the head coach. Buck stops with him. QB is struggling also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, k-met57 said: You mean u have an issue with running twice for -1 yards and then throwing on 3 and 12? Or gaining 21 yards on a run and coming back with more runs to the same side? Or running to the same side like 8 times in a row until you end up in a third and long? Those all seem fine to me... Isn’t that how we scored a TD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: So we've blown out a bad team and we've lost reasonably close games to two seemingly .500 teams. To quote Dennis Green, "the Jets are who we thought they were!"....a slightly less than .500 team most likely. This is shaping up as most predicted...something like 7-9 or 6-10 with a rookie QB. Inopportune penalties and a turnover deep in Jets territory are probably the most significant reasons for the loss, along with conservative play calling on O with a lead in the 2nd Half. The Jets generated 17 points, all on offense, without ever having the benefit of decent field position. In fact, we were often starting inside our own 20 and then backing ourselves up with 5 yard penalties. The Browns also have a decent defense. I can't say this should have been unexpected. I think the Browns were due... Where do you see 6-7 wins on our schedule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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