nico002 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 i don’t get this since he was doing to great in the pre season my guess is the coaches trying to make the game simple with 3 games in 11 days but we are literally ******* ourselves here... again, Sam did this BEAUTIFULLY in the pre season... it explains why we looked so conservative, why Robby isn’t involved, why Sam “struggled” even though there were no plays to be made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 You might be right about the short week we'll see If this keeps up Bowles and bates are goners The one thing Chris won't allow is mucking up his shiny new QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Interesting video. I know I've heard Sam "Kill" a play. Is that not an audible?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Another reason that solidifies this coaching staff, HC down, as the most incompetent group of mother****ers in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 22 minutes ago, nico002 said: i don’t get this since he was doing to great in the pre season my guess is the coaches trying to make the game simple with 3 games in 11 days but we are literally ******* ourselves here... again, Sam did this BEAUTIFULLY in the pre season... it explains why we looked so conservative, why Robby isn’t involved, why Sam “struggled” even though there were no plays to be made 1) I think you probably answered your own question. 3 games in 11 days. 2) The ONLY way the Jets f*ck themselves... is by getting Sam Darnold injured early in his first season because of this ridiculous schedule and 4 nasty defenses in a row with elite pass rushers. Von Miller follows after Sacksonville next week. Not long after come the Vikings, and Khalil Mack after that. Honestly, it's absurd. Do you all wish we still had Teddy playing now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 unrelated: I'd like a team full of Brandon Lloyds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 3:05 mark is the play I’ve referred to a couple of times in different threads. That played ripped my heart out for the last time with this coach and his staff. The fraud needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I mentioned in the game thread that he didn't seem to have the ability to audible since we kept running into stacked boxes. Gotta be able to adjust to that or we'll get smashed all year. Let the kid play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Bates not more than a week ago "If you treat your young QB like a rookie and cut down the offense he will play like a rookie." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 This irates me to no end. I saw the Jets running into loaded boxes all game. I blame Bowles and his conservative no lose theories. Well how did it work out Todd? Please lord - I know u delivered a QB - I have 1 more small favor. We need a new offensive head coach. A good coach with some brains. Please. Thank you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nixhead said: This irates me to no end. I saw the Jets running into loaded boxes all game. I blame Bowles and his conservative no lose theories. Well how did it work out Todd? Please lord - I know u delivered a QB - I have 1 more small favor. We need a new offensive head coach. A good coach with some brains. Please. Thank you ! I genuinely wholeheartedly unequivocally Fire Bowles today and give the job to Bates. HessStation for GM. Let’s make it happen people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 39 minutes ago, nico002 said: i don’t get this since he was doing to great in the pre season my guess is the coaches trying to make the game simple with 3 games in 11 days but we are literally ******* ourselves here... again, Sam did this BEAUTIFULLY in the pre season... it explains why we looked so conservative, why Robby isn’t involved, why Sam “struggled” even though there were no plays to be made this was posted in another thread as well ( by you?) anyway, i watched and commented... Sam looked pissed coming off the field towad the end of that video and gets bro hugged by someone in consolation- Kearse oh, watch Winters get his lunch money taken @ 3:44... sheesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, HessStation said: I genuinely wholeheartedly unequivocally Fire Bowles today and give the job to Bates. HessStation for GM. Let’s make it happen people Don't you think Bates is at least partially to blame? He should be fighting tooth and nail if bowles is limiting what his QB can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: Don't you think Bates is at least partially to blame? He should be fighting tooth and nail if bowles is limiting what his QB can do. Yes Bates is to blame also. Jets should of never fired Morton. He had our offense doing great until McCown went down. Bates must of got in Bowles ear saying he would run more. I’m sick to my stomach over these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 So we know for sure that there are no checks here? It’s not just some internet guy claiming there are no checks? There’s another video that shows that Sam has been bad at pre-snaps reads. Maybe they took that off his plate with only 3 days rest since he was already making mistakes with 6 days rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, HessStation said: Another reason that solidifies this coaching staff, HC down, as the most incompetent group of mother****ers in the NFL. Fire Todd Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Might as well let Sam play with handcuffs on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, HessStation said: I genuinely wholeheartedly unequivocally Fire Bowles today and give the job to Bates. HessStation for GM. Let’s make it happen people Anyone know how to start a petition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, HessStation said: I genuinely wholeheartedly unequivocally Fire Bowles today and give the job to Bates. HessStation for GM. Let’s make it happen people Not until Ruby becomes a moderator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Jesus h Christ. Fire everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Just now, JiF said: Jesus h Christ. Fire everyone At this point if there is anything left of Sam at the end of the year, we must have a front office capable of developing a FQB. If not then we might as well write a sympathy card to him and his parents now because these dunces are going to kill his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 The offense is being hamstrung by a rookie QB who drops back, isn't sure where to go with the football, then realizes the pockets collapsing, scrambles and finds the receiver closest to him that can catch the ball. That's why there's no downfield passing game. It's the reason why defenses are playing close to the line. If you watch the Anderson highlight video. Mccown, under as much pressure as Darnold has been, was able to complete plays downfield. Until Darnold goes through his progressions quicker, this will be a problem. He's a rookie QB. none of this should be surprising anyone. If anything Bowles is putting too much faith in Darnold, by starting him from the get go. If Bowles is fired, it would be for other reasons. Not hamstringing the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, genot said: The offense is being hamstrung by a rookie QB who drops back, isn't sure where to go with the football, then realizes the pockets collapsing, scrambles and finds the receiver closest to him that can catch the ball. That's why there's no downfield passing game. It's the reason why defenses are playing close to the line. If you watch the Anderson highlight video. Mccown, under as much pressure as Darnold has been, was able to complete plays downfield. Until Darnold goes through his progressions quicker, this will be a problem. He's a rookie QB. none of this should be surprising anyone. If anything Bowles is putting too much faith in Darnold, by starting him from the get go. If Bowles is fired, it would be for other reasons. Not hamstringing the QB. Holy hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: Don't you think Bates is at least partially to blame? He should be fighting tooth and nail if bowles is limiting what his QB can do. Unknown. Maybe. If so he’d go at the end of the season;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, genot said: The offense is being hamstrung by a rookie QB who drops back, isn't sure where to go with the football, then realizes the pockets collapsing, scrambles and finds the receiver closest to him that can catch the ball. That's why there's no downfield passing game. It's the reason why defenses are playing close to the line. If you watch the Anderson highlight video. Mccown, under as much pressure as Darnold has been, was able to complete plays downfield. Until Darnold goes through his progressions quicker, this will be a problem. He's a rookie QB. none of this should be surprising anyone. If anything Bowles is putting too much faith in Darnold, by starting him from the get go. If Bowles is fired, it would be for other reasons. Not hamstringing the QB. Totally incorrect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, genot said: The offense is being hamstrung by a rookie QB who drops back, isn't sure where to go with the football, then realizes the pockets collapsing, scrambles and finds the receiver closest to him that can catch the ball. That's why there's no downfield passing game. It's the reason why defenses are playing close to the line. If you watch the Anderson highlight video. Mccown, under as much pressure as Darnold has been, was able to complete plays downfield. Until Darnold goes through his progressions quicker, this will be a problem. He's a rookie QB. none of this should be surprising anyone. If anything Bowles is putting too much faith in Darnold, by starting him from the get go. If Bowles is fired, it would be for other reasons. Not hamstringing the QB. I feel like you’re not paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, HessStation said: I feel like you’re not paying attention. I've not rewatched tape but in real time I cane away feeling that the coaches are playing it close to vest with Sam for sure, but I think its warranted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 But, how does this guy know that Sam isn’t allowed to check? I’ve definitely seen him check to other stuff over the course of the first few weeks. How does this guy know that Sam simply isn’t choosing to check out of hopeles plays? Seems like a ton of overreaction here, in general. The dude has played three games. They were obviously being very conservative on Thursday, but a lot of it had to do with them not wanting to get him killed behind this mediocre offensive line. He was under constant durress for a lot of that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, CTM said: I've not rewatched tape but in real time I cane away feeling that the coaches are playing it close to vest with Sam for sure, but I think its warranted Which is a surefire way of getting him killed imo. if he needs to wear kid gloves he shouldn’t be starting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, HessStation said: Which is a surefire way of getting him killed imo. if he needs to wear kid gloves he shouldn’t be starting Guy needs live reps 2 years of college + 1 year of HS.. one of the least experiance QB's ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 9 minutes ago, CTM said: Guy needs live reps 2 years of college + 1 year of HS.. one of the least experiance QB's ever He also needs to understand the game and playbook before he gets live reps. There’s no exact science to this but if you won’t allow audibles or he can’t see it yet he’s going to get killed and regress like Thursday night. Brady and Rodgers both sat. There’s no need to rush it if you’re not able to instill a certain amount of confidence in him. Also, they’ve done next to nothing putting the right roster around him. We’ll see. I think he’s got the right mental makeup to persevere through the struggles but they need to loosen things up or he’ll get killed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Anyone who watches that video, and thinks the biggest problem is Darnold, needs their head examined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 So we are ASSUMING he doesnt have the power to audible? Literally this is a video of him guessing what happened. He has NO idea if Sam could/couldnt audible or what the coaching staff is thinking. Damn it's gonna be a long 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTM Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 44 minutes ago, HessStation said: He also needs to understand the game and playbook before he gets live reps. There’s no exact science to this but if you won’t allow audibles or he can’t see it yet he’s going to get killed and regress like Thursday night. Brady and Rodgers both sat. There’s no need to rush it if you’re not able to instill a certain amount of confidence in him. Also, they’ve done next to nothing putting the right roster around him. We’ll see. I think he’s got the right mental makeup to persevere through the struggles but they need to loosen things up or he’ll get killed Blah blah .. Peyton didnt sit. We are dealing with the most experienced early rd1 pick prolly ever. Give him reps and if he folds he wasnt going to make it anyway This year is a wash which is what cracks me up about all the people jumping off the ledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, CTM said: Blah blah .. Peyton didnt sit. We are dealing with the most experienced early rd1 pick prolly ever. Give him reps and if he folds he wasnt going to make it anyway This year is a wash which is what cracks me up about all the people jumping off the ledge Peyton also was never coddled which is my point. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be starting. I’m saying he shouldn’t be starting if you’re going to treat him with kid gloves. Hello they had 8 men in the box with press the whole night and they’re not allowing audibles (or he can’t make them) and we’re running toss sweeps and bubble screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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