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I have a Dynasty IDP league and am about to drop him for BJ Hill. He's playing he's just not producing. The fact he's 25 means there's like zero upside. He should be producing now. So yeah, there is concern. He might become a solid "jordan Jenkins" style contributor but a legit player would be flashing right now.  He's occupying gaps best thing you can say about the dude. Probably another classic Mac day 1 overdraft. 

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5 minutes ago, bitonti said:

I have a Dynasty IDP league and am about to drop him for BJ Hill. He's playing he's just not producing. The fact he's 25 means there's like zero upside. He should be producing now. So yeah, there is concern. He might become a solid "jordan Jenkins" style contributor but a legit player would be flashing right now.  He's occupying gaps best thing you can say about the dude. Probably another classic Mac day 1 overdraft. 

He drafted him near the end of day 2?

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Just now, bealeb319 said:

He is a rookie who has like 1/3 of five games experience in the NFL? Might not pan out but defiantly not going to get concerned about him yet especially with Anderson beasting out

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Looking for Anderson to have a monster game against his former team.

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I like Shephard. He is not coming up with the stats we'd like to see, but our Run D has been pretty stout and he is a contributor to that. I've eyeballed him a couple of times this year trying to see what he was doing. He doesn't get that great of penetration but his gaps were clogged pretty nicely during the plays I focused on him. He's not getting pushed around. 

Let's hope he continues to improve but he is only a rookie playing less than half of the D snaps in the first half of his first season. I wouldn't sound the alarm bells just yet. 

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He's actually played quite a bit.  144 snaps which is good for about 40%.  That's only about 50 less snaps than Henry Anderson who has seen 53% of the snaps.  Henry stands out.  Sheppard has been a ghost. 

Game 5 of NFL career and he's a nobody which is concerning because he's 25 and a full grown man but he's a small school guy learning to adjust to the NFL. He's never seen anything like the athlete's he's playing vs. right now.

 

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Snap Count:

NEW YORK JETS SNAP COUNT SUMMARY

2018

Player 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 Total
Sam Darnold 60
100%
65
100%
63
100%
55
100%
62
100%
                        305
                                     
Bilal Powell 24
40%
34
52%
34
54%
35
64%
34
55%
                        161
Isaiah Crowell 24
40%
31
48%
29
46%
20
36%
25
40%
                        129
Trenton Cannon 12
20%
0
0%
0
0%
0
0%
1
2%
                        13
                                     
Quincy Enunwa 40
67%
52
80%
53
84%
52
95%
48
77%
                        245
Robby Anderson 35
58%
53
82%
42
67%
41
75%
32
52%
                        203
Jermaine Kearse   20
31%
34
54%
47
85%
39
63%
                        140
Terrelle Pryor 24
40%
44
68%
44
70%
2
4%
13
21%
                        127
Andre Roberts 10
17%
0
0%
1
2%
3
5%
2
3%
                        16
Charone Peake 13
22%
0
0%
0
0%
                            13
                                     
Eric Tomlinson 29
48%
37
57%
24
38%
13
24%
46
74%
                        149
Chris Herndon   44
68%
34
54%
36
65%
                          114
Jordan Leggett 15
25%
  19
30%
26
47%
29
47%
                        89
Neal Sterling 40
67%
10
15%
                              50
                                     
Steve McLendon 21
30%
32
53%
32
42%
39
51%
28
36%
                        152
Nathan Shepherd 32
46%
22
37%
28
36%
40
52%
23
30%
                        145
Mike Pennel 18
26%
10
17%
19
25%
16
21%
12
16%
                        75
                                     
Leonard Williams 46
66%
49
82%
65
84%
56
73%
59
77%
                        275
Brandon Copeland 51
73%
32
53%
45
58%
47
61%
48
62%
                        223
Henry Anderson 34
49%
29
48%
49
64%
33
43%
49
64%
                        194
Jeremiah Attaochu 10
14%
0
0%
7
9%
17
22%
33
43%
                        67
                                     
Avery Williamson 64
91%
60
100%
77
100%
77
100%
77
100%
                        355
Darron Lee 64
91%
57
95%
77
100%
68
88%
77
100%
                        343
                                     
Jordan Jenkins 44
63%
49
82%
51
66%
53
69%
41
53%
                        238
Frankie Luvu 35
50%
33
55%
31
40%
  28
36%
                        127
Josh Martin       19
25%
                          19
Neville Hewitt 7
10%
3
5%
0
0%
2
3%
0
0%
                        12
Kevin Pierre-Louis   0
0%
0
0%
7
9%
0
0%
                        7
                                     
Jamal Adams 70
100%
60
100%
77
100%
77
100%
77
100%
                        361
Doug Middleton 70
100%
55
92%
77
100%
1
1%
0
0%
                        203
Marcus Maye       77
100%
77
100%
                        154
J.J. Wilcox 5
7%
3
5%
9
12%
5
6%
3
4%
                        25
Terrence Brooks 0
0%
0
0%
1
1%
0
0%
0
0%
                        1
                                     
Morris Claiborne 63
90%
57
95%
72
94%
53
69%
77
100%
                        322
Trumaine Johnson 52
74%
60
100%
64
83%
77
100%
                          253
Buster Skrine 59
84%
49
82%
15
19%
61
79%
13
17%
                        197
Darryl Roberts 22
31%
0
0%
9
12%
22
29%
73
95%
                        126
Parry Nickerson 3
4%
0
0%
42
55%
0
0%
52
68%
                        97
Juston Burris 0
0%
      0
0%
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13 minutes ago, bitonti said:

sorry it's a classic Day 2 overdraft.  Like Ardarius Stewart, Christian Hackenberg, and Lorenzo Mauldin. 

I somewhat agree.  It was a shock when the announced his name because there were real potential stud pass rushers on the board who played at a real school; Jerome Baker taken immediately after Sheppard from OSU who I personally loved in the 3rd, is looking every bit the part in Miami.  30+ tackles a bunch for a loss, 2 sacks.  Sam Hubbard from OSU who I liked too also has sack but it's still very early still in these dudes careers.  Sheppard could find himself but it is concerning that's he's not at his size/age even as a rookie.

 

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11 minutes ago, JiF said:

He's actually played quite a bit.  144 snaps which is good for about 40%.  That's only about 50 less snaps than Henry Anderson who has seen 53% of the snaps.  Henry stands out.  Sheppard has been a ghost. 

Game 5 of NFL career and he's a nobody which is concerning because he's 25 and a full grown man but he's a small school guy learning to adjust to the NFL. He's never seen anything like the athlete's he's playing vs. right now.

 

Agreed. Look at Dalvin Thomlinson on the Giants.  Bama guy who basically played in the mini NFL in the SEC. Took him awhile to get up to speed. If we are still having this discussion weeks 12-16, maybe red flag time.

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26 minutes ago, bitonti said:

sorry it's a classic Day 2 overdraft.  Like Ardarius Stewart, Christian Hackenberg, and Lorenzo Mauldin. 

Ah right, glad we've completely written him off after five games of his rookie season. Good to know. 

As for overdraft, I'm pretty sure he was drafted in and around where he was projected. Obviously that doesn't matter if he's no good, but it wasn't criticised as a reach. 

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1 hour ago, GreenFish said:

He hasn’t had splash plays, but he is contributing to a strong DL. We currently have 4 guys playing really well up front.

I kind of see him more as a Steve McLendon NT then a Leo DT type. 

I wouldn't argue with you on this. More of a behind the scenes hero.

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The Jets are more stubborn with the 3-4 scheme than the guy who broke the world record sitting in a tree for 40 years.... we haven’t had the personnel to run a good 3-4 since 2010. Why we don’t just commit to a 4-3 is beyond me.

 

 

 

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He's been the least productive player on what has been a pretty good D-Line so far. He hasn't been awful or anything, but he's just kind of there right now. Hopefully he develops as the season goes on and starts to be more productive.

He was a 3rd round pick from a small school and he's already 25 years old. This is the type of pick you make when you feel you have a real steal on your hands. It would be disappointing if this pick didn't work out and would be another negative for Macc in the draft. But it's only been 5 games. We have to give it some time.

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Damon Harrison played in 5 games his rookie season, without making a single tackle.

I didnt love the Shephard pick at the time, specifically due to his age and the fact that it was another DT.  That being said, until this time next year, we cannot tell what the kid will be.  Hes making a huge jump to the NFL so its going to take time.

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6 hours ago, GreenFish said:

He hasn’t had splash plays, but he is contributing to a strong DL. We currently have 4 guys playing really well up front.

I kind of see him more as a Steve McLendon NT then a Leo DT type. 

This. 

What's everyone complaining about?  The guy wasn't touted to be a sack master...he's a D lineman.

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6 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Everyone loved this guy in camp but much like other 'can't be blocked' comments he is facing our oline in camp.

 the same OL that shut down one of the better pass rushing teams in the NFL ?

It was going to take this OL time to adapt to a new system and at this stage they seem to be doing pretty well. New offenses usually show themselves from mid season on. It would have been nice to get wins against cleveland and Miami which we should have gotten.  The Jets are a few plays and a HC away from being 4-1. I say judge the new offense in the second half the defense which has been both great and horrible and wildly inconsistent has zero excuses since they have been the same system for 4 years

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Did anyone think this rookie would come in and be better than McLendon or Williams? Maybe Shep is the reason Leo is making some plays now. Our run defense for the most part seems to be pretty solid so worrying about Shep is a waste of brain power - and I don’t have much left. 

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There is only so much cap room to go around.  This pick makes sense if he can step in for one of McClendon,Anderson or Williams and save the team cap space.

For a team rebuilding we did not seem ready to give up on McClendon, who is good.  We still bought one year of Anderson,working for a contract. 

This does not seem to make sense to me. 

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22 hours ago, Bruce Harper said:

Should we read anything in to his lack of playing time?  He was a fairly high pick for us.  Is he hurt?  Right now, each of Bilal Powell and Robby Anderson have more solo tackles than he does.

Henry Anderson?

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9 hours ago, varjet said:

There is only so much cap room to go around.  This pick makes sense if he can step in for one of McClendon,Anderson or Williams and save the team cap space.

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the Jets are currently 21 million under the cap. None of these decisions are cap space related. 

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22 hours ago, bealeb319 said:

He is a rookie who has like 1/3 of five games experience in the NFL? Might not pan out but defiantly not going to get concerned about him yet especially with Anderson beasting out

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Thank you. Some.of the posters here are unbelieveable.  The most dirty stuff happens along the lines and since he played for a small school, he probably never experienced any of that and has to adjust.  This is like being in school all over again. 

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22 hours ago, JiF said:

He's actually played quite a bit.  144 snaps which is good for about 40%.  That's only about 50 less snaps than Henry Anderson who has seen 53% of the snaps.  Henry stands out.  Sheppard has been a ghost. 

Game 5 of NFL career and he's a nobody which is concerning because he's 25 and a full grown man but he's a small school guy learning to adjust to the NFL. He's never seen anything like the athlete's he's playing vs. right now.

 

The most important thing is he isn't  getting pushed off the line. He might need to get stronger now. He isn't  likely eating yo doubles but I like that he isnt getting pancaked 

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