Bruce Harper Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Should we read anything in to his lack of playing time? He was a fairly high pick for us. Is he hurt? Right now, each of Bilal Powell and Robby Anderson have more solo tackles than he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I think they are just riding the hot hand with Henry Anderson right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I have a Dynasty IDP league and am about to drop him for BJ Hill. He's playing he's just not producing. The fact he's 25 means there's like zero upside. He should be producing now. So yeah, there is concern. He might become a solid "jordan Jenkins" style contributor but a legit player would be flashing right now. He's occupying gaps best thing you can say about the dude. Probably another classic Mac day 1 overdraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Everyone loved this guy in camp but much like other 'can't be blocked' comments he is facing our oline in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morny Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, bitonti said: I have a Dynasty IDP league and am about to drop him for BJ Hill. He's playing he's just not producing. The fact he's 25 means there's like zero upside. He should be producing now. So yeah, there is concern. He might become a solid "jordan Jenkins" style contributor but a legit player would be flashing right now. He's occupying gaps best thing you can say about the dude. Probably another classic Mac day 1 overdraft. He drafted him near the end of day 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 He's playing between 1/2 to 1/3 of the snaps and not doing much. Don't see him getting pushed around, but, as Bit points out, he's not doing much either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Everyone loved this guy in camp but much like other 'can't be blocked' comments he is facing our oline in camp. Sad statement but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 He is a rookie who has like 1/3 of five games experience in the NFL? Might not pan out but defiantly not going to get concerned about him yet especially with Anderson beasting outSent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, morny said: He drafted him near the end of day 2? Most correct ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Just now, bealeb319 said: He is a rookie who has like 1/3 of five games experience in the NFL? Might not pan out but defiantly not going to get concerned about him yet especially with Anderson beasting out Sent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app Looking for Anderson to have a monster game against his former team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, morny said: He drafted him near the end of day 2? sorry it's a classic Day 2 overdraft. Like Ardarius Stewart, Christian Hackenberg, and Lorenzo Mauldin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I like Shephard. He is not coming up with the stats we'd like to see, but our Run D has been pretty stout and he is a contributor to that. I've eyeballed him a couple of times this year trying to see what he was doing. He doesn't get that great of penetration but his gaps were clogged pretty nicely during the plays I focused on him. He's not getting pushed around. Let's hope he continues to improve but he is only a rookie playing less than half of the D snaps in the first half of his first season. I wouldn't sound the alarm bells just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 He came from a nowwhere school so should give him more time to acclimate. He is not getting blown out of the line and is sturdy. Anderson has been so good that he will have a tough time getting more playing time right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 He hasn’t had splash plays, but he is contributing to a strong DL. We currently have 4 guys playing really well up front. I kind of see him more as a Steve McLendon NT then a Leo DT type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, bitonti said: sorry it's a classic Day 2 overdraft. Like Ardarius Stewart, Christian Hackenberg, and Lorenzo Mauldin. A little early to come to that conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 He's actually played quite a bit. 144 snaps which is good for about 40%. That's only about 50 less snaps than Henry Anderson who has seen 53% of the snaps. Henry stands out. Sheppard has been a ghost. Game 5 of NFL career and he's a nobody which is concerning because he's 25 and a full grown man but he's a small school guy learning to adjust to the NFL. He's never seen anything like the athlete's he's playing vs. right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Snap Count: NEW YORK JETS SNAP COUNT SUMMARY 2018 Player 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 Total Sam Darnold 60 100% 65 100% 63 100% 55 100% 62 100% 305 Bilal Powell 24 40% 34 52% 34 54% 35 64% 34 55% 161 Isaiah Crowell 24 40% 31 48% 29 46% 20 36% 25 40% 129 Trenton Cannon 12 20% 0 0% 0 0% 0 0% 1 2% 13 Quincy Enunwa 40 67% 52 80% 53 84% 52 95% 48 77% 245 Robby Anderson 35 58% 53 82% 42 67% 41 75% 32 52% 203 Jermaine Kearse 20 31% 34 54% 47 85% 39 63% 140 Terrelle Pryor 24 40% 44 68% 44 70% 2 4% 13 21% 127 Andre Roberts 10 17% 0 0% 1 2% 3 5% 2 3% 16 Charone Peake 13 22% 0 0% 0 0% 13 Eric Tomlinson 29 48% 37 57% 24 38% 13 24% 46 74% 149 Chris Herndon 44 68% 34 54% 36 65% 114 Jordan Leggett 15 25% 19 30% 26 47% 29 47% 89 Neal Sterling 40 67% 10 15% 50 Steve McLendon 21 30% 32 53% 32 42% 39 51% 28 36% 152 Nathan Shepherd 32 46% 22 37% 28 36% 40 52% 23 30% 145 Mike Pennel 18 26% 10 17% 19 25% 16 21% 12 16% 75 Leonard Williams 46 66% 49 82% 65 84% 56 73% 59 77% 275 Brandon Copeland 51 73% 32 53% 45 58% 47 61% 48 62% 223 Henry Anderson 34 49% 29 48% 49 64% 33 43% 49 64% 194 Jeremiah Attaochu 10 14% 0 0% 7 9% 17 22% 33 43% 67 Avery Williamson 64 91% 60 100% 77 100% 77 100% 77 100% 355 Darron Lee 64 91% 57 95% 77 100% 68 88% 77 100% 343 Jordan Jenkins 44 63% 49 82% 51 66% 53 69% 41 53% 238 Frankie Luvu 35 50% 33 55% 31 40% 28 36% 127 Josh Martin 19 25% 19 Neville Hewitt 7 10% 3 5% 0 0% 2 3% 0 0% 12 Kevin Pierre-Louis 0 0% 0 0% 7 9% 0 0% 7 Jamal Adams 70 100% 60 100% 77 100% 77 100% 77 100% 361 Doug Middleton 70 100% 55 92% 77 100% 1 1% 0 0% 203 Marcus Maye 77 100% 77 100% 154 J.J. Wilcox 5 7% 3 5% 9 12% 5 6% 3 4% 25 Terrence Brooks 0 0% 0 0% 1 1% 0 0% 0 0% 1 Morris Claiborne 63 90% 57 95% 72 94% 53 69% 77 100% 322 Trumaine Johnson 52 74% 60 100% 64 83% 77 100% 253 Buster Skrine 59 84% 49 82% 15 19% 61 79% 13 17% 197 Darryl Roberts 22 31% 0 0% 9 12% 22 29% 73 95% 126 Parry Nickerson 3 4% 0 0% 42 55% 0 0% 52 68% 97 Juston Burris 0 0% 0 0% 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, bitonti said: sorry it's a classic Day 2 overdraft. Like Ardarius Stewart, Christian Hackenberg, and Lorenzo Mauldin. I somewhat agree. It was a shock when the announced his name because there were real potential stud pass rushers on the board who played at a real school; Jerome Baker taken immediately after Sheppard from OSU who I personally loved in the 3rd, is looking every bit the part in Miami. 30+ tackles a bunch for a loss, 2 sacks. Sam Hubbard from OSU who I liked too also has sack but it's still very early still in these dudes careers. Sheppard could find himself but it is concerning that's he's not at his size/age even as a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, JiF said: He's actually played quite a bit. 144 snaps which is good for about 40%. That's only about 50 less snaps than Henry Anderson who has seen 53% of the snaps. Henry stands out. Sheppard has been a ghost. Game 5 of NFL career and he's a nobody which is concerning because he's 25 and a full grown man but he's a small school guy learning to adjust to the NFL. He's never seen anything like the athlete's he's playing vs. right now. Agreed. Look at Dalvin Thomlinson on the Giants. Bama guy who basically played in the mini NFL in the SEC. Took him awhile to get up to speed. If we are still having this discussion weeks 12-16, maybe red flag time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morny Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 26 minutes ago, bitonti said: sorry it's a classic Day 2 overdraft. Like Ardarius Stewart, Christian Hackenberg, and Lorenzo Mauldin. Ah right, glad we've completely written him off after five games of his rookie season. Good to know. As for overdraft, I'm pretty sure he was drafted in and around where he was projected. Obviously that doesn't matter if he's no good, but it wasn't criticised as a reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I'm not overly worried about a guy 5 games into his career, but obviously the timeline for a 25 year old is different than that of a younger player. Let's see where he stands at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, GreenFish said: He hasn’t had splash plays, but he is contributing to a strong DL. We currently have 4 guys playing really well up front. I kind of see him more as a Steve McLendon NT then a Leo DT type. I wouldn't argue with you on this. More of a behind the scenes hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 The Jets are more stubborn with the 3-4 scheme than the guy who broke the world record sitting in a tree for 40 years.... we haven’t had the personnel to run a good 3-4 since 2010. Why we don’t just commit to a 4-3 is beyond me. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 He's been the least productive player on what has been a pretty good D-Line so far. He hasn't been awful or anything, but he's just kind of there right now. Hopefully he develops as the season goes on and starts to be more productive. He was a 3rd round pick from a small school and he's already 25 years old. This is the type of pick you make when you feel you have a real steal on your hands. It would be disappointing if this pick didn't work out and would be another negative for Macc in the draft. But it's only been 5 games. We have to give it some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Damon Harrison played in 5 games his rookie season, without making a single tackle. I didnt love the Shephard pick at the time, specifically due to his age and the fact that it was another DT. That being said, until this time next year, we cannot tell what the kid will be. Hes making a huge jump to the NFL so its going to take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Not that that anyone cares nor does it mean anything overall, but he absolutely blew up 1 run play last week. Not sure if it resulted in a TFL or not but he destroyed the RT(I believe) and was in the backfield in a blink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CanadienJetsFan Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 6 hours ago, GreenFish said: He hasn’t had splash plays, but he is contributing to a strong DL. We currently have 4 guys playing really well up front. I kind of see him more as a Steve McLendon NT then a Leo DT type. This. What's everyone complaining about? The guy wasn't touted to be a sack master...he's a D lineman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Beerfish said: Everyone loved this guy in camp but much like other 'can't be blocked' comments he is facing our oline in camp. the same OL that shut down one of the better pass rushing teams in the NFL ? It was going to take this OL time to adapt to a new system and at this stage they seem to be doing pretty well. New offenses usually show themselves from mid season on. It would have been nice to get wins against cleveland and Miami which we should have gotten. The Jets are a few plays and a HC away from being 4-1. I say judge the new offense in the second half the defense which has been both great and horrible and wildly inconsistent has zero excuses since they have been the same system for 4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nixhead Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Did anyone think this rookie would come in and be better than McLendon or Williams? Maybe Shep is the reason Leo is making some plays now. Our run defense for the most part seems to be pretty solid so worrying about Shep is a waste of brain power - and I don’t have much left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 There is only so much cap room to go around. This pick makes sense if he can step in for one of McClendon,Anderson or Williams and save the team cap space. For a team rebuilding we did not seem ready to give up on McClendon, who is good. We still bought one year of Anderson,working for a contract. This does not seem to make sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 22 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: Should we read anything in to his lack of playing time? He was a fairly high pick for us. Is he hurt? Right now, each of Bilal Powell and Robby Anderson have more solo tackles than he does. Henry Anderson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 9 hours ago, varjet said: There is only so much cap room to go around. This pick makes sense if he can step in for one of McClendon,Anderson or Williams and save the team cap space. 1 the Jets are currently 21 million under the cap. None of these decisions are cap space related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 22 hours ago, bealeb319 said: He is a rookie who has like 1/3 of five games experience in the NFL? Might not pan out but defiantly not going to get concerned about him yet especially with Anderson beasting out Sent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app Thank you. Some.of the posters here are unbelieveable. The most dirty stuff happens along the lines and since he played for a small school, he probably never experienced any of that and has to adjust. This is like being in school all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 22 hours ago, JiF said: He's actually played quite a bit. 144 snaps which is good for about 40%. That's only about 50 less snaps than Henry Anderson who has seen 53% of the snaps. Henry stands out. Sheppard has been a ghost. Game 5 of NFL career and he's a nobody which is concerning because he's 25 and a full grown man but he's a small school guy learning to adjust to the NFL. He's never seen anything like the athlete's he's playing vs. right now. The most important thing is he isn't getting pushed off the line. He might need to get stronger now. He isn't likely eating yo doubles but I like that he isnt getting pancaked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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