Maxman Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 They are 1 and 5, Barkley looks like a monster and here are Eli's stats: Here is how his #'s project over a full season: Nice yardage total. 16 TDs and 11 INTs though? Not a guy you want to build around at 37. A lot of his yards are in garbage time which is why his yards are so much higher than the TDs thrown. They are going to regret passing on Sam Darnold in a big way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Yea, not going for Darnold or Rosen was a huge mistake. Mistakes like that are firable offenses for a general manager. They seem to have massively overestimated their talent on D and on the Oline, bc even with Drew Brees at qb I see a .500 team at best. The entire interior of their Oline is a turnstyle. It doesn’t really make sense, did they really expect to beat the Rams, Saints and Philly with the addition of Barkley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 This makes me happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFaninMI Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Yes anytime the Giants are stinking up the joint is a good time. Huge mistake not taking a QB at 2. Barkley is a great player no doubt but long is the list of great backs who played on a high level but never won a thing without a quality QB. Passing on a QB in last year's draft could haunt the Giants for quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 It’s easy to say that about Eli in retrospect but Barkeley is insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Eli won two super bowls the old man might not be the best qb in the league but he isn't terrible. Football is a team sport and their defense is not playing well.Sent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyjet Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 What a wonderful year so far. I thought last year was epic. This could be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I actually the think their D is good, they just realize Eli is done. He better be careful or he’s going to end up with a less than .500 career winning %. The gmen had 2 chances to win by taking Barkley. Either Eli still had it and the team would be good OR Eli stunk so much they got Barkley and would still be in line for a top passer next year. As a giants hater I wish they’d win a few games, destroying both of their chances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 The way they are playing they will have another top 5 maybe top 3 pick next year. They can draft a qb next year and will have Barkley there to help the young qb. The big question to ask is next years qb class as good as this years class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn306 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Waiting on the Daily News backpage showing Jokedell Beckham, Lil mini me Wayne and Ecoli as the ring leaders of the Giants Circus. You know it just chapped their respective butts having all those Eagles fans in their house doing the E-A-G-L-E-S chant. Couldn't happen to a better group of "fans". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets8 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 44 minutes ago, Mo Lew said: I actually the think their D is good, they just realize Eli is done. He better be careful or he’s going to end up with a less than .500 career winning %. The gmen had 2 chances to win by taking Barkley. Either Eli still had it and the team would be good OR Eli stunk so much they got Barkley and would still be in line for a top passer next year. As a giants hater I wish they’d win a few games, destroying both of their chances? Qbs, not rbs win championships. Barkley is a nice tool to have, but this qb class was special. Maybe they will be that bad again and be lucky with 2nd pick again. I doubt if they will find s Baker, Rosen, or darnold this yr though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said: Qbs, not rbs win championships. Barkley is a nice tool to have, but this qb class was special. Maybe they will be that bad again and be lucky with 2nd pick again. I doubt if they will find s Baker, Rosen, or darnold this yr though. I get your premise but you have no idea how any of the qbs will pan out. That being said I couldn’t be happier with Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Lew Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Also imagine if Sam had Barkley ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edscuba Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 AS announcers said last night Eli's passes are mostly short connections making his stats look better but not much down field threats. Plus they were 0-15 on third down trys before getting one last night. Probably like 4-10 last night. Good news for them is a good OB is coming out of Oregon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Their oline makes ours look stellar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphtrilogy Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Perfect chance for the GM to blow it up last year with a blank check from Fans and ownership 3 years of Eli (at best) 7-9 years of Barkley 15 years of Sam or Rosen (if they hit) I don't understand these GMs sometimes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Any players that we should target on the Giants? That lockeroom is a mess and normally I wouldn’t want quitters but they should literally blow everything up and have a fire sale. They hate us though but was just thinking that maybe something can shake free somehow. Probably not though since they are TERRIBLE and worse than last year somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Yikes, front page ESPN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 You cant say passing on darnold was a mistake. Barkley is a generational talent. Lets see what the do to replace eli over the next few years. Then we can determine if what they did was a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I have a hard time laughing at other teams when my team is 2-3, and coming off consecutive 5 win seasons. At this point, I like our future better than theirs, but lets string together a few wins and then I will join in the laughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lith said: I have a hard time laughing at other teams when my team is 2-3, and coming off consecutive 5 win seasons. At this point, I like our future better than theirs, but lets string together a few wins and then I will join in the laughter. I’m sorry but I can’t not laugh at watching the Giants and their fans suffer. Even if we aren’t doing well, that makes my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I watched some of the game last night and don't think Eli is the reason they are losing, he might not be able to carry a team anymore but don't think he was ever that guy... the team just does not execute, seemed sadly familiar, like they know they lost before they play the game, at one point Barkley walked over to OBJ to calm him down, so much for veteran leadership or follow the money - with a 2019 cap hit of $44m for just Eli and oBJ - they have that team locked up for a few years Barkley on the other hand looked great! glad he is a Jets fan too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I think Eli is incredibly overrated, and always has been. He has not changed, the team around him has. He has never been a mobile guy, just a relatively strong arm and pretty accurate guy. If you look at his few years between Plaxico and Cruz/OBJ, he was very pedestrian. He is a guy who if you give him a strong team around him, he can perform at a high level. BUT, he was never the type of QB to carry a team, he just was never that talented. They put a line in front of him, with the weapons they have on offense he would be fine. He is what he is. He can drive the really nice car well, he just can't take the beater car and raise its performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Barkley had a great statistical game yesterday but a lot of that was garbage time Giants fans who actually are knowledgeable are kicking themselves that they passed on Darnold and Rosen for Barkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 30 minutes ago, NoBowles said: I think Eli is incredibly overrated, and always has been. He has not changed, the team around him has. He has never been a mobile guy, just a relatively strong arm and pretty accurate guy. If you look at his few years between Plaxico and Cruz/OBJ, he was very pedestrian. He is a guy who if you give him a strong team around him, he can perform at a high level. BUT, he was never the type of QB to carry a team, he just was never that talented. They put a line in front of him, with the weapons they have on offense he would be fine. He is what he is. He can drive the really nice car well, he just can't take the beater car and raise its performance Eli is like any other qb if his OL stinks he will stink. The Giants are in competition with the Bills for nfl’s Worst offensive line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 37 minutes ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said: I watched some of the game last night and don't think Eli is the reason they are losing, he might not be able to carry a team anymore but don't think he was ever that guy... the team just does not execute, seemed sadly familiar, like they know they lost before they play the game, at one point Barkley walked over to OBJ to calm him down, so much for veteran leadership or follow the money - with a 2019 cap hit of $44m for just Eli and oBJ - they have that team locked up for a few years Barkley on the other hand looked great! glad he is a Jets fan too Eli didn’t give up 34 points at home. The offensive line is a bunch of turnstiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 48 minutes ago, Lith said: I have a hard time laughing at other teams when my team is 2-3, and coming off consecutive 5 win seasons. At this point, I like our future better than theirs, but lets string together a few wins and then I will join in the laughter. I think normally you would be right but this season the jets were predicted to be one of the worst teams in the nfl while the giants were at least considered a playoff team This could be a decisive turning point in the history of both franchises. The giants passed on the best college qb since Andrew Luck for a nice running back but in 5 years he will be done while Sam could be an elite qb next 15 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I honestly wish they were a little better -- I don't want them drafting in the top three and having a shot at Herbert. Would definitely prefer they go 5-11 and wander in the QB wilderness for a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Eli looks completely lost out there. Yes the OL is bad, but a veteran with his experience should have no problem hitting hot routes and calling audibles on the line to combat it. That team does not look like they are behind him at all. Like it feels like he has no command as a leader of the team. They are a like young team with grandpa at the helm, they just don’t seem to relate at all and you can feel that on the field. Brady is old, but his history commands respect, and he’s still relatable to his players. Eli is like Mr Rogers. You love the guy, but you’re not gonna see young guys having that comraderie with the old geek in a cardigan. Giants have weapons for sure. And Barkley opens things up for them. The Giants problems start at Eli, then OL, then D. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Eff it. Anyone else having trouble posting gifs? Lately, they show up fine in preview but don't load onto the posted post. Max, any words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Not to be funny or anything but the giants have the high powered offense alot of folks around here want. They are proof this season that it takes more than playmakers on offense to win games.Sent from my [device_name] using http://JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlag Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 At least they have a young promising QB waiting in the wings like Davis Webb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Barkley at 2 would have been a good pick 40 years ago, during the OJ Simpson era the game just isn't built that way anymore that being said if the Giants go Darnold at 2 I'd have no problem going Barkley at 3 and giving Teddy Bridgewater the Darnold treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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