Lith Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Hmm... what makes him believe that? And doesn’t Jones play DE in the 3-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Hmmmmmmmmm........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Hmm... what makes him believe that? same thing I was wondering when I watched. he mentions no source or rumor or anything, he just believes. OK boomer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetNation Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Former New York Jets quarterback and current NFL analyst Boomer Esiason raised a few eyebrows when he said he believes the Jets are making an attempt to acquire pass rusher Chandler Jones from the Arizona Cardinals. “I believe they’re trying to acquire Chandler Jones from the Cardinals.” – @7BOOMERESIASON notes the New York Jets might have their eye on a defensive playmaker to play opposite of their new franchise QB. On @CBSSportsNet right NOW, the second half of #TOPS. pic.twitter.com/ZJjDUBt4ak — CBS Sports (@CBSSports) October 14, 2018 Looking for a legitimate presence off the edge for a decade, importing Jones, who had 17 sacks last year and has 68 for his career would be a welcome addition to Todd Bowles’ defense. The post Esiason: Jets Trying to Acquire Chandler Jones appeared first on JetNation.com (NY Jets Blog & Forum). Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 If true, the Jets are obsessed with DEs. How long is he under contract? Is this another Percy Harvin move? Mac and Bowles will obviously be desperate. Personally, the front 7 have not been terrible. I am more worried about injuries and the play of the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, varjet said: If true, the Jets are obsessed with DEs. How long is he under contract? Is this another Percy Harvin move? Mac and Bowles will obviously be desperate. Personally, the front 7 have not been terrible. I am more worried about injuries and the play of the secondary. 4 sacks in all of ours games except for one week. We had 2 sacks in that week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Hmm... what makes him believe that? And doesn’t Jones play DE in the 3-4? He played edge in New England. Haven’t seen him play in Arizona but I doubt at 265 he can play 3-4 DE. When he played for NE, he looked like a protypical 3-4 Edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, GreenFish said: He played edge in New England. Haven’t seen him play in Arizona but I doubt at 265 he can play 3-4 DE. When he played for NE, he looked like a protypical 3-4 Edge. Well if he plays edge then we need him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Jones is better than any edge player we have and is surprisingly only 28. Feels like that guy has been in the league forever. I think he was in the Coples draft. He is owed $20 mil next year. So, if we trade for him, I think we would need to restructure his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 We should have just traded for Khalil Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: We should have just traded for Khalil Mack. Two 1st rounders is a no-go for a team like us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: Two 1st rounders is a no-go for a team like us I agree id take Jones,Ray,Fowler at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: We should have just traded for Khalil Mack. I wish it were that easy because then I would agree. The whole trading out of conference thing is taken a little too seriously but I guess I get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I was thinking that if the Cardinals are having a fire sale and trying to ruin their young QB, who would I want? I COMPLETELY forgot about Jones because I assumed that it’s be crazy to trade him. I am on board for this 100%. Max is trade is both 3rds or less depending on how much time is left on his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 If true, that extra 3rd rounder we picked up for Teddy B will likely be part of the package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: I agree id take Jones,Ray,Fowler at this point. Any of those players would make us a LOT better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Any of those players would make us a LOT better. We need a legitimate pass rush and we instantly improve the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYDreamer Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 And why does he compare that trade to the Kalil Mack trade. Maybe a 5th or 6th rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Any of those players would make us a LOT better. It’s like going from Wesley Johnson to Spencer Long. Huge difference just from covering up a gigantic deficiency. Scheming a rush has exceeded my expectation but to add a player like Jones is not only more affordable(salary and trade compensation) than Mack, it’ll still help us tremendously with our natural pass rush which we are still horrible at. We could use a little juice and something to pump this team up. Let’s stomp the colts and get this trade done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Chandler Jones averages about 3/4 of a sack a games which is about 12 sacks over 16 games. He has 4 seasons with sack totals over 10 and already has 4 sacks (2 FF) this year in 5 games. He has 18 FF in his 6.5 year career. He's a legit pass rusher and is only 28 (almost exactly 1 year older than Khalil Mack). He isn't Khalil Mack but he is good. For the right price, I wouldn't mind this trade at all. I would also extend him a couple of years since his contract expires after the 2019 season and he is getting paid $20 mil next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 He would instantly be our best pass rusher since Abe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Ah yes the lousy player the pats brilliantly traded for a 2nd round pick which the pats then traded down with and a jag olineman. Jones proceeded to put up 11 and then 17 sacks the last two years and has 4 already this year. This would be a big get for the jets if the price is right. But, once again,....... defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 I’m down . Do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, GreenFish said: Chandler Jones averages about 3/4 of a sack a games which is about 12 sacks over 16 games. He has 4 seasons with sack totals over 10 and already has 4 sacks (2 FF) this year in 5 games. He has 18 FF in his 6.5 year career. He's a legit pass rusher and is only 28 (almost exactly 1 year older than Khalil Mack). He isn't Khalil Mack but he is good. For the right price, I wouldn't mind this trade at all. I would also extend him a couple of years since his contract expires after the 2019 season and he is getting paid $20 mil next year. VALUE. This is the type of pass rusher that I want in addition to a rookie. Plus this guy clearly has great technique and “stud” pass rushers seem to produce into their mid 30s for some reason so we can realistically get a GREAT 3 year run out of him and hopefully he’d still be a solid veteran rotational rusher later in his career. I’d love this move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Screw this. Do not use draft resources on more defense. Do everything you can to protect Darnold and get him weapons. That is VASTLY more important. Now you want to trade Skrine for Jones? Fine. Offense in todays NFL is at least twice as important as defense. Stop the insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Another reason to do this trade is how bare the free agent market is looking next year. Everyone has cap space and all the top free agents are already being signed. Ideally we would trade a 3rd and a player. But not sure what player they would want since most of our guys are on 1 year deals (at least the ones we would consider trading). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 We need a legitimate pass rusher guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Ah yes the lousy player the pats brilliantly traded for a 2nd round pick which the pats then traded down with and a jag olineman. Jones proceeded to put up 11 and then 17 sacks the last two years and has 4 already this year. This would be a big get for the jets if the price is right. But, once again,....... defense. It’s better they do it now so they can focus on offense in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, joewilly12 said: We need a legitimate pass rusher guys. Yes but but a luxury compared to protecting Sam and giving him weapons. We are not a pass rusher away from a SB, but we could be a couple of draft picks wasted on a pass rusher that leads to Darnold being injured or not reaching his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, johnnysd said: Screw this. Do not use draft resources on more defense. Do everything you can to protect Darnold and get him weapons. That is VASTLY more important. Now you want to trade Skrine for Jones? Fine. Offense in todays NFL is at least twice as important as defense. Stop the insanity. It doesn’t work like that. You spend “money” to make “money”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 Just now, johnnysd said: Yes but but a luxury compared to protecting Sam and giving him weapons. We are not a pass rusher away from a SB, but we could be a couple of draft picks wasted on a pass rusher that leads to Darnold being injured or not reaching his potential. Agree but with the cap space we will have next season we can fix a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, GreenFish said: Another reason to do this trade is how bare the free agent market is looking next year. Everyone has cap space and all the top free agents are already being signed. Ideally we would trade a 3rd and a player. But not sure what player they would want since most of our guys are on 1 year deals (at least the ones we would consider trading). This is also my thinking. If we can fill the pass rusher need and make use of our cap space, it’s a win. Unless there is another stud pass rusher in round 1 of the draft, I’d trade down and try to get some o line in rounds 2-3 to take multiple shots. Our team has enough talent where a good QB can elevate the offense. We just need a better o-line and pass rush. There’s a lot of parity in the NFL and a good QB is all you really need to make a difference against another team. We are grooming one so the future is bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 13 minutes ago, NYDreamer said: And why does he compare that trade to the Kalil Mack trade. Maybe a 5th or 6th rounder Chandler Jones lead the league in sacks last year (17) and is usually in the double digit sacks. He's definitely worth more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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