sec101row23 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Per Shefter and ESPN Dallas trading a first for Cooper. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, sec101row23 said: Per Shefter and ESPN Dallas trading a first for Cooper. Yikes. We weren’t doing that. That’s for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 A 1st? wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Jerry Jones needs to retire already sheesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, JiF said: A 1st? wow. That’s what Shefter is saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Would have liked to have added Cooper, but not at that price. Good luck to him in Dallas. So Oakland has three 1s now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAJet815 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Jerruh has lost his damn mind. No blaming Mac whatsoever there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 desperate team, desperate owner. they lost b/c prescott gifted a td to washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, sec101row23 said: That’s what Shefter is saying. Yup. Schefter and Rapoport are both reporting the deal being a 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, Lith said: Would have liked to have added Cooper, but not at that price. Good luck to him in Dallas. So Oakland has three 1s now. Yup. And currently two ones in 2020. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Gruden has robbed the entire league. 3 2019 first rounders 2 2020 first rounders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Desperate Jerry is the best Jerry....Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 All the talking heads that are bashing Gruden will be kissing his feet in a few years. The man is stockpiling a ton of draft picks for the future. He knows that half-a$$ing it for 5 years is never the answer. Trade away all your good players. Tank. Use tons of high draft picks to build a roster best suited for the type of football you want to play. It's only something a guy on a massive, long term contract can pull off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said: All the talking heads that are bashing Gruden will be kissing his feet in a few years. The man is stockpiling a ton of draft picks for the future. He knows that half-a$$ing it for 5 years is never the answer. Trade away all your good players. Tank. Use tons of high draft picks to build a roster best suited for the type of football you want to play. It's only something a guy on a massive, long term contract can pull off. is derek carr next? guy behind me at the jet game yesterday was saying the rumblings were derek carr to the giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said: All the talking heads that are bashing Gruden will be kissing his feet in a few years. The man is stockpiling a ton of draft picks for the future. He knows that half-a$$ing it for 5 years is never the answer. Trade away all your good players. Tank. Use tons of high draft picks to build a roster best suited for the type of football you want to play. It's only something a guy on a massive, long term contract can pull off. Exactly, no first year GM on a 4 year deal could even consider trading away what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, Augustiniak said: is derek carr next? guy behind me at the jet game yesterday was saying the rumblings were derek carr to the giants. I think that makes more sense than them going the rookie route next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCJet Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Sadly Teddy Bs value would also now be a first rounder given the situation in Jacksonville and with the Giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAJet815 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: is derek carr next? guy behind me at the jet game yesterday was saying the rumblings were derek carr to the giants. Jags should be in on that if so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Just now, sec101row23 said: Exactly, no first year GM on a 4 year deal could even consider trading away what he did. the cooper trade was a no brainer. the mack deal is looking more logical b/c they're starting over and wouldn't derek carr look great on jacksonville right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: the cooper trade was a no brainer. the mack deal is looking more logical b/c they're starting over and wouldn't derek carr look great on jacksonville right now? I think they move Carr in the offseason, with that contract and cap hit it would be hard for the Jags or Giants to make room mid-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Jerry is turning into late-stages Al Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 How well do you think Gruden will draft? In 7 years with Tampa, Talib is probably his best pick. Gaines Adams? Cadillac Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: is derek carr next? guy behind me at the jet game yesterday was saying the rumblings were derek carr to the giants. It was pretty clear from day 1 that Gruden didn't like this team. Once he traded away Mack, you had to know he was going to clean house. Would not be surprised to see him trade Carr also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: I think they move Carr in the offseason, with that contract and cap hit it would be hard for the Jags or Giants to make room mid-season. though, there will be desperate teams like the cowboys. the jaguars are approaching this, and the giants are a huge embarrassment and if eli looks like crap tonight on national tv again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Good for them. They overpaid like sh*t Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 4 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: though, there will be desperate teams like the cowboys. the jaguars are approaching this, and the giants are a huge embarrassment and if eli looks like crap tonight on national tv again.... His cap number is $25 million for the season, even half that is $12.5, Jax only has like $8 million in cap space right now. The Giants only $3 million in space. Tough to maneuver that in the middle of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Awful value for the Cowboys. That's going to be a top 15 pick for an out of shape WR with the dropsies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Holy crap Dallas is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Wow. Moving on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 17 minutes ago, RVAJet815 said: Jerruh has lost his damn mind. No blaming Mac whatsoever there. Good heavens. The Raiders got # 1 pick for days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Cowboys are lifers in NFL Purgatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Jon Gruden on Amari Cooper in February: “He’ll be the focal point of our offense.” Jon Gruden on Amari Cooper Trade Rumors Last Week: "I haven't heard that. I'm just sorry to have to deal with a lot of these reports.” Today: Raiders trade Amari Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 I am stunned that Cooper was worth a first to any team, even one with a clearly deteriorating owner. Compare that to a 5th for Hyde? Makes no sense. I'm sure Gruden would LOVE to trade Carr to the Giants as it would take them out of the QB race and they are really OAK's only competition. If he doesn't get the first pick, and the Giants are bidders, he'll have to pay a lot more in trade value to get there than if they aren't. Just like if BUF or ARI were closer to our draft slot, we would probably have had to pay more than we did to get up to #3. If the Giants make that trade, they are even dumber than I currently think they are. And Gruden will come out of this looking pretty smart. Still, as we all know, even four 1st round picks is no guarantee of anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, PS17 said: Holy crap Dallas is stupid. Terrible trade. Maybe we can get 2 #1s for Leo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 A typical bad move by the Cowboys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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