bealeb319 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Not to say he is the only one who needs to get fired but I think he should be the first. This guy spent something like 12 years in the nfl coaching nothing but defensive line, he inherits a defensive line consisting of Richardson Wilkerson and Williams in his first year as a defensive coordinator and with that gets us 27 sacks (30th ranked) allowed 11 rushing touchdowns (ranked 23rd) and 1581 rushing yards (22nd) teams with far worse defensive lines did much better. Despite investing a ton of resources into our defense and having what I believe is a fair bit of talent on the defensive side of the ball we have yet to really shine or live up to their potential. I believe two of our best performances defensively came in the absence of Rodgers. It is not fair to blame the entirety of our teams problems on this guy but I do not believe we are a better team with him and would like to at least see what happens without him, my belief is that getting rid of Rodgers would have an addition by subtraction effect. Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 If Bowles goes Rodgers goes with him. So.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 We need to move on from this coach and his staff. It's not just Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryM Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Well today I saw Bowles calling defensive plays also. The defense is supposedly his forte, so that tells you what kind of a coach he is. Don't worry, when Bowles is fired Rogers will be gone too. The bottom line is that the head coach is held accountable for every aspect of the team. If he keeps a substandard coach it is all on him. Hopefully we can stop talking about both of them real soon!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Bowles had the playsheet today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsYanks13 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Rodgers is going down with the ship cause he’s Bowles best friend.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 it was the player that blew the assignment on cohen pass TD. it was the player that blew the assignment. think about that for a second. we clearly have some players with low football read / react intelligence, because this keeps happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 14 minutes ago, Vader said: it was the player that blew the assignment on cohen pass TD. it was the player that blew the assignment. think about that for a second. we clearly have some players with low football read / react intelligence, because this keeps happening. My issue with this excuse is that it’s seems to be the player’s fault an awful lot. THAT is on the coaching. We have a lot of quality players on defense and should not be having that many blown assignments consistently over the last 4 years when our HC is supposed to be a defensive guru. That argument doesn’t hold because the poor coaching leads to the lack of discipline that if further evidenced by the CONSTANT pre-snap penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: My issue with this excuse is that it’s seems to be the player’s fault an awful lot. THAT is on the coaching. We have a lot of quality players on defense and should not be having that many blown assignments consistently over the last 4 years when our HC is supposed to be a defensive guru. That argument doesn’t hold because the poor coaching leads to the lack of discipline that if further evidenced by the CONSTANT pre-snap penalties. missing an assignment isn’t lack of discipline. it’s lack of intelligence. these players aren’t droids subject to an algorithm. they actually have to execute. and the worrying part is this isn’t brain surgery. the defensive player has to have recognition skills, and reaction based on that read. the coach calls the play. the players have to play. in other words, i think you are wrong. it IS possible to have players that aren’t executing. if that’s the case, it isn’t on the coach. and im not even saying i think the coach is perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, Vader said: missing an assignment isn’t lack of discipline. it’s lack of intelligence. these players aren’t droids subject to an algorithm. they actually have to execute. and the worrying part is this isn’t brain surgery. the defensive player has to have recognition skills, and reaction based on that read. the coach calls the play. the players have to play. in other words, i think you are wrong. it IS possible to have players that aren’t executing. if that’s the case, it isn’t on the coach. and im not even saying i think the coach is perfect Poor execution and not correcting the same mistakes from happening over and over again is poor coaching. Players that absolutely can’t execute due to skill, should not be on the field. The defense has been relatively healthy with blown assignments happening with our best defensive players. Something is wrong with the coaching. If you can’t see that, then I don’t know what to tell you. There have been bright moments this year but I’m talking about the totality of the Bowles era. Maybe you are just talking about this 1 play? Idk but undisciplined/sloppy football with many blown assignments is the calling card of this coach. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, Vader said: missing an assignment isn’t lack of discipline. it’s lack of intelligence. these players aren’t droids subject to an algorithm. they actually have to execute. and the worrying part is this isn’t brain surgery. the defensive player has to have recognition skills, and reaction based on that read. the coach calls the play. the players have to play. in other words, i think you are wrong. it IS possible to have players that aren’t executing. if that’s the case, it isn’t on the coach. and im not even saying i think the coach is perfect Also, I agree with you that of course it’s possible that players aren’t executing. I just think that there is a reason that they aren’t executing. They aren’t being put in a position to execute properly thorough poor communication/coaching and game planning/adjustments which is 110% on coaching. Also, discipline was just another example of a bad coaches traits and that shows with the penalties. I wasn’t talking about discipline in regards to the blown coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Sorry Bowles doesn't get another coordinator fired under his watch . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vader Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 12 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said: Also, I agree with you that of course it’s possible that players aren’t executing. I just think that there is a reason that they aren’t executing. They aren’t being put in a position to execute properly thorough poor communication/coaching and game planning/adjustments which is 110% on coaching. Also, discipline was just another example of a bad coaches traits and that shows with the penalties. I wasn’t talking about discipline in regards to the blown coverage. the touchdown pass to Cohen was as clear as day. I saw it clearly before it happened, and i saw it because I play/played organized football. my father saw it. Bart scott saw it. the ILB blitzed and thought the back would pick him up. he didn’t recognize that the back could run the wheel or screen. that’s HIS fault. Bowles has said this multiple times in his pressers — it was the player. and he refuses to call them out by name, which is good. the players are also saying the same thing. “We need to execute better" This isn’t brain science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, Vader said: the touchdown pass to Cohen was as clear as day. I saw it clearly before it happened, and i saw it because I play/played organized football. my father saw it. Bart scott saw it. the ILB blitzed and thought the back would pick him up. he didn’t recognize that the back could run the wheel or screen. that’s HIS fault. Bowles has said this multiple times in his pressers — it was the player. and he refuses to call them out by name, which is good. the players are also saying the same thing. “We need to execute better" This isn’t brain science Well I’m not talking about this specific play and let’s just agree to disagree. I think there is miscommunication here and not worth beating our heads against a wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Vader said: it was the player that blew the assignment on cohen pass TD. it was the player that blew the assignment. think about that for a second. we clearly have some players with low football read / react intelligence, because this keeps happening. we have a coach that has a low IQ you say the player blew the assignment but what about the pre-snap penalties? that is an excuse like the injries this team has been unprepared for half the games that is the staff no the player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Kacy goes when Todd goes. We are only calling one uber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 5 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: If Bowles goes Rodgers goes with him. So.... I think they fire Bowles mid-season, replace him with Rodgers who will go 3-2 to finish the season and get a 6 year deal provided he agrees to hire away Brian Schottenheimer from the Seahawks to be OC/Assistant HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, Maxman said: Kacy goes when Todd goes. We are only calling one uber. Uber , let them hitch-hike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Just now, 56mehl56 said: Uber , let them hitch-hike. The Jets are trying to be the classy organization in town these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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