KRL Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Normally I would pass on a RB in free agency, particularly one who's going to demand a huge contract. But with the amount of cap space we're going to have and the impact Bell can have on Darnold and the offense I'm warming to the idea: Pros - One of the best RB's in the game with absurd production http://www.nfl.com/player/le'veonbell/2540175/profile - Bell would only be 27 going into the 2019 season, giving us three years before the "magic" age of 30. A front loaded contract with the majority of $$$ paid out in the first 3 years would protect the cap - He sat out this year which means he's saved a year of wear & tear on his legs - An average over 4 every time he runs the ball and an average over 8 every time he catches the ball - He catches the ball out of the backfield like a WR - Bell would make Darnold's job easier because the defense would focus on him. They would bring an extra man into the box and leave WR's in single coverage. The screen game would become devastating and the play action pass would be so much more effective Cons - Bell's had drug issues in the past and has been suspended - I respect him for taking a stand on his contract and passing on 800K a week. But that stand (selfishness?) has caused a lot of turmoil in PIT, would he pull that here? Could we see Revis type of whining about his contract in the future? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Butterfield Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 I almost think they have to. What other offensive playmakers are there out there that can make a difference? Im all for building through the draft but we need one sure fire impact playmaker. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, Butterfield said: I almost think they have to. What other offensive playmakers are there out there that can make a difference? Im all for building through the draft but we need one sure fire impact playmaker. Besides Bell there are no names that jump off the page at all this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 We need a weapon that scares opponents. We have nobody close to elite right now. When the first Jets player in a fantasy football draft goes somewhere in Round 8 that tells you something. The Jets need a difference maker, Darnold needs a player that takes the focus off the QB, and the Jets will have a ton of Cap money. If there aren't any better options (I think the WR market in Free Agency could be thin) then I have no problem going after Bell in a contract that doesn't cripple the team in the future or in the case he gets injured. But buyer beware, this guy has now shown his level of Revis-ness in terms of contracts, stalemates and negotiating. We need to tread carefully. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thai Jet Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 NO !!! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 minute ago, jetstream23 said: We need a weapon that scares opponents. We have nobody close to elite right now. When the first Jets player in a fantasy football draft goes somewhere in Round 8 that tells you something. The Jets need a difference maker, Darnold needs a player that takes the focus off the QB, and the Jets will have a ton of Cap money. If there aren't any better options (I think the WR market in Free Agency could be thin) then I have no problem going after Bell in a contract that doesn't cripple the team in the future or in the case he gets injured. But buyer beware, this guy has now shown his level of Revis-ness in terms of contracts, stalemates and negotiating. We need to tread carefully. Worth the risk for me. This running game has to show up again if we want Darnold to have more success not only this year but next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: Worth the risk for me. This running game has to show up again if we want Darnold to have more success not only this year but next Bell and Crowell would be a dynamite tandem. Jets need to add a WR as well as draft one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I'm all for signing Bell & Tyrell Williams + a pass rusher in free agency. We have 100 million & thats 3 players. Reup Quincy (he doesn't deserve a blockbuster contract), 2nd round tender to Anderson. Draft ALL OFFENSE! Best WR at #1, 3rd round is usually good for a Center. Fill out the roster AFTER the free agency wave has past for solid vet mercenaries to fill holes. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 List the big name free agents coming out next year. After you do that, you'll see the answer is yes to signing him 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, KRL said: Normally I would pass on a RB in free agency, particularly one who's going to demand a huge contract. But with the amount of cap space we're going to have and the impact Bell can have on Darnold and the offense I'm warming to the idea: Pros - One of the best RB's in the game with absurd production http://www.nfl.com/player/le'veonbell/2540175/profile - Bell would only be 27 going into the 2019 season, giving us three years before the "magic" age of 30. A front loaded contract with the majority of $$$ paid out in the first 3 years would protect the cap - He sat out this year which means he's saved a year of wear & tear on his legs - Bell's had drug issues in the past and has been suspended - I respect him for taking a stand on his contract and passing on 800K a week. But that stand (selfishness?) has caused a lot of turmoil in PIT, would he pull that here? Could we see Revis type of whining about his contract in the future? But he's a year older. EVERYBODY gets slower as they age. Trust me I know. Funny but Pittsburgh doesn't seem to be hurting too much without him. Connor is doing just fine. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, Jetster said: I'm all for signing Bell & Tyrell Williams + a pass rusher in free agency. We have 100 million & thats 3 players. Reup Quincy (he doesn't deserve a blockbuster contract), 2nd round tender to Anderson. Draft ALL OFFENSE! Best WR at #1, 3rd round is usually good for a Center. Fill out the roster AFTER the free agency wave has past for solid vet mercenaries to fill holes. I’m cool with all this except for taking a WR in the first unless he is the better player on the board. I want the top OL but if the WR is the better prospect then I’d ride with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, DetroitRed said: List the name free agents coming out next year. After you do that, you'll se the answer is yes Basically. The list is god awful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 It all depends on how things play out. I would rather spend that money on OL/edge rusher. So if a couple of those become available in the offseason via free agency (I know the good OTs were locked up already) or trade, then that is where I would put my money. But if that doesn't happen, then definitely go after Bell. He still has at least 2-3 more years left especially since he took this year off and his body didn't take a beating this year. If we could lock up Bell and bring in a WR like John Brown to pair with the likes of Enunwa/Anderson this offense could be really good next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets0712 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Definitely yes. 1 thing not mentioned is the value of Bell has to be going down with what Connor is doing there in Pitt Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Besides Bell there are no names that jump off the page at all this year. If Bell still saw that Josh McCown was the Jets QB like when he made his comment about how much the Jets would have to pay him to come here, that entire scenario has changed after drafting Sam Darnold. Bell now sees a 21 year old QB with huge potential in NY. He knows we have Crowell, McGuire, so he doesn't get run into the ground & if he has any pride would want to show why he held out (because he's one of the top RBs in NFL history). Bell has had tremendous games vs our rival Patriots who we are trying to dethrone. Jets would be crazy not to inquire! CRAZY! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2018 Yes. 100%. If you cant draft them, buy them. This team is unwatchable and gambling on Mac's drafting ability is one of the worst bets out there. Bell is Todd Gurley. They're the same dude. Do you think Jared Goff benefits from having Todd Gurley on his team? 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: I’m cool with all this except for taking a WR in the first unless he is the better player on the board. I want the top OL but if the WR is the better prospect then I’d ride with it. There are some REALLY GOOD WRS in the 2019 draft. I think the Jets will be picking in the 8-12 range. I agree, if an LT or Edge rusher is staring at you, you have to take him but that range is where a really good WR falls. We have to keep adding young offensive talent for Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, JiF said: Yes. 100%. If you cant draft them, buy them. This team is unwatchable and gambling on Mac's drafting ability is one of the worst bets out there. Bell is Todd Gurley. They're the same dude. Do you think Jared Goff benefits from having Todd Gurley on his team? Almost as much as having the coach he has.? Bell would be a great addition, but think we need to address pass rushers even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Voice of Reason Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Free agency isn’t going to be good until teams are in cap hell again. Overpaying good talent >>>> overpaying mediocre talent 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jetster said: There are some REALLY GOOD WRS in the 2019 draft. I think the Jets will be picking in the 8-12 range. I agree, if an LT or Edge rusher is staring at you, you have to take him but that range is where a really good WR falls. We have to keep adding young offensive talent for Sam. AJ Brown would be so good in a WCO system. His ability to get YAC is so good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Worth the risk, on a 3 year deal, with him being cuttable after 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, rillo said: No. This team isn't going anywhere, save the picks. Uh, getting Bell is how it starts going somewhere. He’s an All Pro and the Steelers are begging someone to take him at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 minute ago, section314 said: Almost as much as having the coach he has.? Bell would be a great addition, but think we need to address pass rushers even more. Luckily, the Jets are in position to get both if they really wanted. Go buy Bell, go draft one of the many pass rushers coming out. Or go buy Dee Ford or Dante Fowler and Bell. The Jets have the cash. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Crimson King Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Can he bring his O line with him? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 The Steelers haven't missed a beat without him -- James Conner has been just as productive. Paying massive money to a running back would be beyond idiotic so I'm sure that's what the Jets will do. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, The Crimson King said: Can he bring his O line with him? No, but he can bring that mean ass cut back and receiving ability with him. Look, the run blockers on this team were never in doubt. We are so-so in pass protection and even then Darnold’s sack% stands at 6.4 and the league average is 6.6 It hasn’t been as bad since the beginning weeks. Still not great but if Crowell can do it.(Bronco game) Bell can do too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: The Steelers haven't missed a beat without him -- James Conner has been just as productive. Paying massive money to a running back would be beyond idiotic so I'm sure that's what the Jets will do. He’s the only playmaker available and he’s damn good. Yes, you do it. The FA list isn’t getting any better. Connor is doing well but that doesn’t take away from who Bell is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: He’s the only playmaker available and he’s damn good. Yes, you do it. The FA list isn’t getting any better. Connor is doing well but that doesn’t take away from who Bell is. I just don't think he's that good, to be honest. I think his production is largely a product of that Steelers offense and the fact that they simply have not missed him at all and James Conner has been a monster is testament to that. The only thing that I take solace in is that his holdout has misfired and, IMO, hurt his value. I don't think he's gonna get anywhere near what he thought he'd get. We'll see how it plays it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 28 minutes ago, Butterfield said: I almost think they have to. What other offensive playmakers are there out there that can make a difference? Im all for building through the draft but we need one sure fire impact playmaker. I was 100% against trading for him and do worry that he’s a partly a product of Pittsburgh’s Oline with how well Conner is playing.....but there are barely any weapons in FA so I’m more open to this now that we don’t have to waste trade assets. We still need to see who will actually each FA since it may be better to spend out money elsewhere or maybe if we can take on a bad contract for picks, that will also eat into our cap space but we’d get to draft more players. It’ll be an interesting offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I want to see the numbers, but yes to talking to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, Jets0712 said: Definitely yes. 1 thing not mentioned is the value of Bell has to be going down with what Connor is doing there in Pitt Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app His value isn’t going down. FA is trash this offseason and teams will overpay for the same reason I am ok with this move now....there’s no one else to sign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Draft Kareem Hunt or James Connor instead of Ardaius stewart problem solved! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 In 2017 Leveon Bell averaged 86 rushing yards per game on 21 carries per game for an average of 4 YPC. He averaged 5.6 receptions per game for 43.66 yards receiving per game. He scored 0.73 TDs per game. In 2018 James Conner is averaging 85.5 rushing yards per game on 18.1 carries per game for an average of 4.7 YPC. He averages 4.42 receptions per game for 46.15 yards receiving per game. He has scored 1.28 TDs per game. But yeah, let's give the first guy 16 million per year. Clearly he's the engine that makes that team go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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