johnnyjet Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Rightfully so. It’s time for him to get canned. Bart was on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 This couldn’t have been mentioned in your fire Bowles thread from four minutes ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I saw it and Ray Lucus jumped in too. They blasted him for not taking Long out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Bart ain’t wrong, but he is laying it on super thick because he has always been Rex’s mouthpiece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 So who do we put as HC if we fire TB this week? Do we promote Caldwell as interim head coach? I think I would keep Bates as OC for the duration of the season. Kind of hard to can the coordinators mid season. Although Cleveland did just that last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyjet Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share Posted November 4, 2018 It doesn’t matter, anyone is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, GreenFish said: So who do we put as HC if we fire TB this week? Do we promote Caldwell as interim head coach? I think I would keep Bates as OC for the duration of the season. Kind of hard to can the coordinators mid season. Although Cleveland did just that last week. Make the hot dog vendor the coach at this point. It doesn't matter as long as Bowles is gone. Although, I don't think he's fired in season regardless of what happens and I don't think he gets fired at all since he agreed to start Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, PS17 said: This couldn’t have been mentioned in your fire Bowles thread from four minutes ago? The entire board could be covered with "Fire Bowles" threads... and I wouldn't say one word. As far as I am concerned... the only two things relevant right now are firing Bowles, and making sure Spencer Long never again endangers Darnold by snapping the ball as a NY Jet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Time to cut Long and resign him in a couple of weeks, ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, johnnyjet said: It doesn’t matter, anyone is better. don't let emotion get the best of you. Bowles should be replaced, but the replacement is important. Bowles gets to finish the season. New coach next season. Doing otherwise is just unnecessarily screwing with Sam's development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Make the hot dog vendor the coach at this point. It doesn't matter as long as Bowles is gone. Although, I don't think he's fired in season regardless of what happens and I don't think he gets fired at all since he agreed to start Darnold. But it's not only about Darnold's play. His coaching is subpar. It's pretty obvious by now. He also decided to fire Morton who is a better coordinator than Bates. Maybe that's not enough to fire him in coach. But why have a lame duck coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: don't let emotion get the best of you. Bowles should be replaced, but the replacement is important. Bowles gets to finish the season. New coach next season. Doing otherwise is just unnecessarily screwing with Sam's development. Bowles' presence is screwing with Darnold... and every other young player on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: don't let emotion get the best of you. Bowles should be replaced, but the replacement is important. Bowles gets to finish the season. New coach next season. Doing otherwise is just unnecessarily screwing with Sam's development. I see you've finally come around Sonny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 How about someone crushes the owner. Wherever he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 One thing I agree with Bart on is Long should not be playing at center. If the Jets think he is a good blocker he can fill in at guard to make a contribution. But he was a big factor and hurt the offense and threw Sam off on a number of plays. btw Bowles was hard to listen to at his presser. Always the same answers. He didn't have to rip Spencer Long. The guy has an injured finger. It was on the coaching staff to remove him from the game earlier. And then when they did take him out Bowles was asked if for performance and he said no. Come on, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, RoadFan said: Bowles' presence is screwing with Darnold... and every other young player on the team. How so? And how does an in season change at HC not have an equally bad effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: don't let emotion get the best of you. Bowles should be replaced, but the replacement is important. Bowles gets to finish the season. New coach next season. Doing otherwise is just unnecessarily screwing with Sam's development. I would fire Bowles today and get a protection order on Sam’s behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocajetfan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: don't let emotion get the best of you. Bowles should be replaced, but the replacement is important. Bowles gets to finish the season. New coach next season. Doing otherwise is just unnecessarily screwing with Sam's development. And Bowles and his staff are elevating his development? Send a message to the team and the fans change is going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 I would definitely take Bart as a LB coach or DC next year. Anytime I see him on TV he's breaking down footage on a completely different level than everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, RobR said: I see you've finally come around Sonny. I like Bowles, but it seems apparent now that as a HC he does not get the most out of his players and he does not have a very good eye for assistant coach talent. I'm hoping the Ravens fire John Harbaugh so the Jets can hire him. BTW Mac has to go too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: I would definitely take Bart as a LB coach or DC next year. Anytime I see him on TV he's breaking down footage on a completely different level than everyone else. Yeah cause all the guys who can break down a play on video after it is over always make great coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: I like Bowles, but it seems apparent now that as a HC he does not get the most out of his players and he does not have a very good eye for assistant coach talent. I'm hoping the Ravens fire John Harbaugh so the Jets can hire him. BTW Mac has to go too. I remember you being a huge Bowles supporter and the two of us having some nice arguments about our difference of opinions. I'm glad you now see that this man is not a HC in this league and todays game highlighted why I've always hated him. He's at the brink of losing his team for the third year in a row and that is after we jettisoned all of the so called malcontents. I don't remember your stance on Mac but I'm sure you remember how much I would tear into him. He has been absolutely brutal as a GM. It's time to hit the reset button yet again. It's unfortunate but it has to be done before we ruin Darnold forever. I just hope and pray we get it right this time and have a great tandem here for the next decade plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: How so? And how does an in season change at HC not have an equally bad effect? They play a brand of undisciplined, mistake-prone, emotionless, gutless football. A reflection of their head coach. This team is devoid of talent, but how much so? Really? Bowles is the worst coach since Kotite. Almost everyone can agree on that. Parcells took a 1-15 Kotite team, made a couple of tweaks... and voila... 9-7. I think Bowles is heavily responsible for some of the young players not getting better. As for some of these "flat" games? The inconsistency? Look at him on the sidelines? What the hell can we expect from the players? I don't know if an in-season change makes it better. But how much worse can it get? The Browns gave a decent effort at Arrowhead today despite a loss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMetsDevilsPA Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 On SNY post game live Adams just said he's pissed and sick of loosing. This season has just been great for the players morale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 Why did bowles go for it on 4th and 15 at the end of the game. We had 2 time outs and the 2 minute warning. How can you be so bad at your job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Integrity28 said: Bart ain’t wrong, but he is laying it on super thick because he has always been Rex’s mouthpiece. Bowles has to needs a ladder to kiss Rex's ass. They aren't in the same league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLuLu Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: I like Bowles, but it seems apparent now that as a HC he does not get the most out of his players and he does not have a very good eye for assistant coach talent. I'm hoping the Ravens fire John Harbaugh so the Jets can hire him. BTW Mac has to go too. Or Mike McCarthy if GB fires him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLuLu Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 58 minutes ago, RoadFan said: They play a brand of undisciplined, mistake-prone, emotionless, gutless football. A reflection of their head coach. This team is devoid of talent, but how much so? Really? Bowles is the worst coach since Kotite. Almost everyone can agree on that. Parcells took a 1-15 Kotite team, made a couple of tweaks... and voila... 9-7. I think Bowles is heavily responsible for some of the young players not getting better. As for some of these "flat" games? The inconsistency? Look at him on the sidelines? What the hell can we expect from the players? I don't know if an in-season change makes it better. But how much worse can it get? The Browns gave a decent effort at Arrowhead today despite a loss... I wouldn't go as far to say that about Bowles about young players. Remember Herm benefited off Percell's players, Rex benefited off Mangini's players, and Bowels 10-6 rookie season benefited off the remaining Mangini players and free-agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Bowles has to needs a ladder to kiss Rex's ass. They aren't in the same league. 1. Not my point, point is Vart is extra-spicy because of loyalty (I’m not saying it’s a bad thing, just pointing it out for entertainment purposes, Rex’s grudge playing out while Bowles flounders is juicy stuff). 2. How quickly we forget. They both suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRONX DUDE Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Matt39 said: How about someone crushes the owner. Wherever he is. I think we shoot for 5-11 which is the Jets norm since 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, GreenFish said: So who do we put as HC if we fire TB this week? Do we promote Caldwell as interim head coach? I think I would keep Bates as OC for the duration of the season. Kind of hard to can the coordinators mid season. Although Cleveland did just that last week. He’s not getting fired this week..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, carlito1171 said: He’s not getting fired this week..... That’s why I said If. I’m curious what people would do IF we fire Bowles now. It’s a scenario question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Rangers9 said: One thing I agree with Bart on is Long should not be playing at center. If the Jets think he is a good blocker he can fill in at guard to make a contribution. But he was a big factor and hurt the offense and threw Sam off on a number of plays. btw Bowles was hard to listen to at his presser. Always the same answers. He did't have to rip Spencer Long. The guy has an injured finger. It was on the coaching staff to remove him from the game earlier. And then when they did take him out Bowles was asked if for performance and he said no. Come on, man. True Dat ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, GreenFish said: That’s why I said If. I’m curious what people would do IF we fire Bowles now. It’s a scenario question. Ok. If you want to play the hypothetical game be my guest.... All I know is I hope the Johnsons are paying attention. Even if Mac stays it’s clear this coaching staff will ruin whatever potential Darnold has. Change is needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted November 4, 2018 Share Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: How so? And how does an in season change at HC not have an equally bad effect? How does it get worse if they make a change now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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