KRL Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I did some quick research on replacements with an offensive background on the pro level: Todd Monken (TB OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Monken Matt LaFleur (TEN OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_LaFleur John DeFilippo (MIN OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_DeFilippo Eric Bieniemy (KC OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Bieniemy Peter Carmichael (NO OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Carmichael_Jr. Mark Helfrich (CHI OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Helfrich_(American_football) Randy Fichtner (PIT OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Fichtner Bill Lazor (CIN OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Lazor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 McCarthy Mcdaniels Bienemy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, KRL said: I did some quick research on replacements with an offensive background on the pro level: Todd Monken (TB OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Monken Matt LaFleur (TEN OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_LaFleur John DeFilippo (MIN OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_DeFilippo Eric Bieniemy (KC OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Bieniemy Is that Eric, sleeping with, Bieniemy ? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, nico002 said: McCarthy Mcdaniels Bienemy Is McCarthy on the hot seat? If so that's a no brainer..... Bring Pettine back with him LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Mike Shanahan Why the hell anyone wants to go the rookie coach route yet again is beyond me. I want an established, credible offensive coach who gives me damn good odds of putting Darnold on the right path to develop into a Top 10 QB for the next decade plus. That’s the highest priority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, carlito1171 said: Is McCarthy on the hot seat? If so that's a no brainer..... Bring Pettine back with him LOL I’d hate McCarthy Rodgers has had to carry that team every step of the way over the last 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Untouchable said: I’d hate McCarthy Rodgers has had to carry that team every step of the way over the last 8 years. McCarthy is one of the reason why Rodgers became Rodgers in the first place..... Not a perfect coach but if fired would def land another gig.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 McCarthy is a bum and squandering Rodgers but beggers can’t be choosers so whatever happens happens. I don’t care and will just wait to see results before I get my hopes up. No hire can excite me. This team is cursed. Until they turn the corner, I’ll just follow like a mindless zombie and try to be numb to all the bullsh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: McCarthy is one of the reason why Rodgers became Rodgers in the first place..... Not a perfect coach but if fired would def land another gig.... McCarthy was also the goof who hung on to Dom Capers 6 years past his expiration date. That whole team is fueled by Rodgers and I think you’re giving McCarthy a little too much credit for his development. McCarthy has displayed some of the very same game management issues that Bowles has and his offenses have routinely looked like dogsh*t whenever Rodgers has been out and he doesn’t have arguably the best QB in the game behind center. He surely didn’t do a very good job of developing Brett Hundley into at least a capable spot starter. The Packers looked like one of the bottom 3 teams in the league after Rodgers broke his collarbone last year. Even Kizer was a disaster in the limited snaps he played at the beginning of this season against the Bears when Rodgers went out for a series or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Untouchable said: Mike Shanahan Why the hell anyone wants to go the rookie coach route yet again is beyond me. I want an established, credible offensive coach who gives me damn good odds of putting Darnold on the right path to develop into a Top 10 QB for the next decade plus. That’s the highest priority Because 1st Time HC’s like McVay, Nagy, Pederson, have tore it up since being hired. I’d be all for hiring Holmgren, Mike Shanahan, or John Harbaugh...but definitely wouldn’t be against hiring a first time offensive minded HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I think right now DeFilipo is the most logical choice. Experience with the orginization. Experience with a young QB. I think DeFilipo could potentially pluck a good DC from very good Viking or Eagles staffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: Because 1st Time HC’s like McVay, Nagy, Pederson, have tore it up since being hired. I’d be all for hiring Holmgren, Mike Shanahan, or John Harbaugh...but definitely wouldn’t be against hiring a first time offensive minded HC. Why would I have even the slightest bit of faith in Johnson & Johnson being able to find the next Sean McVay or Doug Pederson? Al Groh, Herm Edwards, Eric Mangini, Rex Ryan, Todd Bowles... Yeah, I’m ready to go the retread route at this point. With Mike Shanahan’s background, connections around the league, propensity for putting together a great offensive coaching staff, etc...he’s easily my number 1 choice right now. Could care less if he’s in his mid-60’s. So are Belichick and Pete Carroll. Andy Reid is getting up there as well. All I care about is this sh*tty organization not ruining the first legit franchise QB talent that we’ve had in nearly half a century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Can we just have an offense minded coach? Pretty please??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I'd be more onboard for Shanahan in a VP type of role and bring in one of his disciples (Lafleur) to actually coach the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 5 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: I'd be more onboard for Shanahan in a VP type of role and bring in one of his disciples (Lafleur) to actually coach the team I’d be all in favor of this as well because I completely trust Shanahan’s judgement in coaches. Nevermind the glory days in Denver, just look at the offensive staff he put together in Washington a few years ago... Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Matt LaFleur, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Woody Johnson has a fetish for defensive head coaches. Even the runner up to Bowles was Dan Quinn a defensive head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 From this list it is: 1. John DeFilippo (MIN OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_DeFilippo And despite what folks say out here Shanahan would be better than any HC we have had since Parcells roamed the sidelines so I wouldn't look past him at all. At a minimum Shanahan would IMO get Darnold to SUPERSTAR status something no other HC can guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 43 minutes ago, KRL said: I did some quick research on replacements with an offensive background on the pro level: John DeFilippo (MIN OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_DeFilippo Peter Carmichael (NO OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Carmichael_Jr. Bill Lazor (CIN OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Lazor 43 minutes ago, KRL said: Todd Monken (TB OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Monken Eric Bieniemy (KC OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Bieniemy Mark Helfrich (CHI OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Helfrich_(American_football) Randy Fichtner (PIT OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Fichtner Matt LaFleur (TEN OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_LaFleur Top 3 for me if we go the OC rout above. then the rest based on the list ..... side note... Matt LaFleur is not showing anything in TN. He is making that offense worse than before. Mariota may have increased his completion percentage 4%, but that's not hard when you are now throwing screen passes and not going downfield as they were in previous seasons. I'd stay away from LaFleur. I don't understand the fascination with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 30 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: McCarthy is one of the reason why Rodgers became Rodgers in the first place..... Not a perfect coach but if fired would def land another gig.... McCarthy is stubborn and not adaptable. hate coaches like that. Stubborn like he needed the entire world to tell him that Aaron Jones was the best running back on his roster before giving him the most snaps. Stubborn and not adaptable as in like Aaron Rodgers has cryptically said things to the effect that the offense is stale and defenses often know what they're doing and he won't adjust. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#90 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Look at the Saints... their offense is always tops in the league. Pete Carmichael. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, Untouchable said: I’d be all in favor of this as well because I completely trust Shanahan’s judgement in coaches. Nevermind the glory days in Denver, just look at the offensive staff he put together in Washington a few years ago... Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Matt LaFleur, etc. This is Bowels NUMBER 1 weakness, his staff is cobbled together poop. No one has ever mentionedd our staff as being in the top 20 and that is a HUGE problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 44 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Mike Shanahan Why the hell anyone wants to go the rookie coach route yet again is beyond me. I want an established, credible offensive coach who gives me damn good odds of putting Darnold on the right path to develop into a Top 10 QB for the next decade plus. That’s the highest priority I have touted Shanny as well, but Carmichael would be a solid second choice IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 The good news is we're going to finally get what we haven't had since Woody Johnson bought the team -- an offensive minded head coach. After hiring five consecutive defensive coordinators I have zero doubt the next HC hire will be made 100% with Darnold in mind. It will be the "McVay" to Bowles' "Jeff Fisher." Hopefully we just don't screw up the hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 DeFilipo is the only one I want. I just feel like he gets it, especially with his time in Philly. He’s not gonna force a situation and say this is how it’s supposed to work. Feel like he’d adapt to what works with Sam and make the best of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 How many openings are there going to be? Neither DeFellippo or any other real offensive minded coach is joining the Jets unless the front office is fixed. It’s futeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, Untouchable said: I’d be all in favor of this as well because I completely trust Shanahan’s judgement in coaches. Nevermind the glory days in Denver, just look at the offensive staff he put together in Washington a few years ago... Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, Matt LaFleur, etc. I think his coaching days are behind him but would love to see him in the VP role for the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I would really like an experienced HC from the offensive side of the ball. Really no idea who that might be, as quality experienced HCs don't shake loose too often. Of the hot OC names, I'd go for DeFilippo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Expect a half measure which scares away the real coaches and another bad hire. Unless Mac is fired, I have no interest in who the coach is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 40 minutes ago, carlito1171 said: I'd be more onboard for Shanahan in a VP type of role and bring in one of his disciples (Lafleur) to actually coach the team Exactly...history has shown that when great coaches take a break from the game and then return it just never works out. The game is constantly evolving and the things that worked back in the day are no longer effective. VP sure but HC no friggin way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 16 minutes ago, varjet said: How many openings are there going to be? Neither DeFellippo or any other real offensive minded coach is joining the Jets unless the front office is fixed. It’s futeless. Maybe, but lets say that, for whatever reason only Bowles is fired. Defilippo would have, 21 yr old Sam and $100 million to make this offense his. That is 2 big positives, when considering the Defense doesn't need a lot (pass rusher as always). Mac would be dumb not to get Defilippo whatever he wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, varjet said: How many openings are there going to be? Neither DeFellippo or any other real offensive minded coach is joining the Jets unless the front office is fixed. It’s futeless. Let’s see: Browns Jets Ravens Broncos Bucs Cardinals Not the most attractive spots but Mayfield, Darnold and Rosen could all have new HCs. Gonna be interesting to see who a candidate would pick to go with. I think it’ll say a lot wherever a top candidate goes and what qb he picks, to say this is who I wanna start my team with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, JetFreak89 said: Exactly...history has shown that when great coaches take a break from the game and then return it just never works out. The game is constantly evolving and the things that worked back in the day are no longer effective. VP sure but HC no friggin way. Shanahan changed up his entire offense to suit RGIII with a bunch of read option bullsh*t and he went on to have the most efficient rookie season for a QB in NFL history. At the same time, he drafted and helped develop a legit Top 10-12 QB in Kirk Cousins in the 4th round. The guy has been away for less than 5 years. I’d welcome him with open arms if he wanted to come here. My dick gets hard every time I think of what he could do with a raw talent like Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 45 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: This is Bowels NUMBER 1 weakness, his staff is cobbled together poop. No one has ever mentionedd our staff as being in the top 20 and that is a HUGE problem! Great HCs know how to hire young talented assistants. Bowles is not good, and by not good I mean bad, at this aspect of his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 guy fixes this mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Let’s see: Browns Jets Ravens Broncos Bucs Cardinals Not the most attractive spots but Mayfield, Darnold and Rosen could all have new HCs. Gonna be interesting to see who a candidate would pick to go with. I think it’ll say a lot wherever a top candidate goes and what qb he picks, to say this is who I wanna start my team with. How in the world is that sh*t show up in Buffalo not on this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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