Adoni Beast Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I think Shanahan would love one more shot at coaching. I doubt he wants to go out the way Washington treated him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: How in the world is that sh*t show up in Buffalo not on this list? If McDermott gets canned maybe we can hire Schwartz and McDermott comes as OC.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 57 minutes ago, Untouchable said: Cowher sits on a CBS TV set breaking down highlights. Gruden has been closer to the game than Cowher over the last decade and how is that shaking out? Cowher has always strictly been a coach...and now we’re talking about pigeonholing him into a VP/GM role that he has zero experience in to my knowledge? No thanks Sounds like Phil Jackson taking the Knicks job only 10x worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Sonny Werblin said: How in the world is that sh*t show up in Buffalo not on this list? It made the playoffs last season? Their GM and Coach both stated that this season was going to be a bloodletting. They have over a 1/3 (50 million) in dead money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, JiF said: None of you can take credit for Eric Beiniemy. I was the first to throw his name out there. I want any coach that is under Andy Reid. I BEGGED for Matt Nagy before he was even available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Call me stupid for having an optimistic thought.....is it possible that outsiders see a team that actually has some potential? Defense isn’t bad and missing a pass rusher, offense needs a few weapons and an o-line overhaul. FQB is already in place plus they have the built in excuse of Sam not being “their guy” and who they drafted which can give them a 2nd chance at QB if things go south. Our team is playing BELOW it’s potential. Their are many flaws but the coaching staff is hurting this team (Sam specifically) more than helping. Maybe we will be an attractive destination for once. We put in our time with a god awful regime which shows patience and that’s music to a head coach/GM’s ears. Or maybe they see the Jets owners for the suckers that they are and it’s easy money. These reasons should help us get a quality candidate but I’m sure we will F it up somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Creepy Lurker said: Call me stupid for having an optimistic thought.....is it possible that outsiders see a team that actually has some potential? Defense isn’t bad and missing a pass rusher, offense needs a few weapons and an o-line overhaul. FQB is already in place plus they have the built in excuse of Sam not being “their guy” and who they drafted which can give them a 2nd chance at QB if things go south. Our team is playing BELOW it’s potential. Their are many flaws but the coaching staff is hurting this team (Sam specifically) more than helping. Maybe we will be an attractive destination for once. We put in our time with a god awful regime which shows patience and that’s music to a head coach/GM’s ears. Or maybe they see the Jets owners for the suckers that they are and it’s easy money. These reasons should help us get a quality candidate but I’m sure we will F it up somehow. If I am a GM candidate this is where I want to be, unless I don't like Darnold. They are a few picks short, but have a ton of money and not much wasted salary. I would love the chance to mold a roster. This team isn't really locked in with any player beyond Trumaine Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Creepy Lurker said: Call me stupid for having an optimistic thought.....is it possible that outsiders see a team that actually has some potential? Defense isn’t bad and missing a pass rusher, offense needs a few weapons and an o-line overhaul. FQB is already in place plus they have the built in excuse of Sam not being “their guy” and who they drafted which can give them a 2nd chance at QB if things go south. Our team is playing BELOW it’s potential. Their are many flaws but the coaching staff is hurting this team (Sam specifically) more than helping. Maybe we will be an attractive destination for once. We put in our time with a god awful regime which shows patience and that’s music to a head coach/GM’s ears. Or maybe they see the Jets owners for the suckers that they are and it’s easy money. These reasons should help us get a quality candidate but I’m sure we will F it up somehow. My argument for years for trading up, doing whatever it took to draft a blue chip QB prospect was that even if it meant suffering for a couple of years, it would finally make this an attractice job for a potential HC. - We have a 21 year old rookie who has the potential to be elite. - 100 million to spend - Just about all of our draft picks - A GM with no spine who will draft whatever kind of player the HC wants, or a new gm that you’ll be involved in hiring - Young talented defense. I think this is going to be an attractive job for any potential HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Adoni Beast said: My argument for years for trading up, doing whatever it took to draft a blue chip QB prospect was that even if it meant suffering for a couple of years, it would finally make this an attractice job for a potential HC. - We have a 21 year old rookie who has the potential to be elite. - 100 million to spend - Just about all of our draft picks - A GM with no spine who will draft whatever kind of player the HC wants, or a new gm that you’ll be involved in hiring - Young talented defense. I think this is going to be an attractive job for any potential HC. That’s the only hope that we can have. Suffering for 4 years needs to pay off somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Just now, Creepy Lurker said: That’s the only hope that we can have. Suffering for 4 years needs to pay off somehow. There's only 32 NFL teams a HC job is sought after by many time to all the plug on Macc and Bowles and start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: My argument for years for trading up, doing whatever it took to draft a blue chip QB prospect was that even if it meant suffering for a couple of years, it would finally make this an attractice job for a potential HC. - We have a 21 year old rookie who has the potential to be elite. - 100 million to spend - Just about all of our draft picks - A GM with no spine who will draft whatever kind of player the HC wants, or a new gm that you’ll be involved in hiring - Young talented defense. I think this is going to be an attractive job for any potential HC. On paper I agree. The one caveat is "incompetent ownership" which is probably the worst trait a team can have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nico002 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Shanahan would be 67... putting him at 70 with a 24 year old QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drums Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 3 hours ago, carlito1171 said: McCarthy is one of the reason why Rodgers became Rodgers in the first place..... Not a perfect coach but if fired would def land another gig.... Talk to Packers fans and you'll see-- they hate him. If you think Bowles' game management is bad... There is no way in HELL McCarthy should come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 McCarthy is bad. why can't macc just pick a new head coach, or fire both and hire a GM that will pick his own HC? Isn't that how it is supposed to work. I am good with any any offensive coach, but the KC guy sure sounds good to me, I don't think their QB is better than ours. He just has a offensive system that does not hold him back. If we fire Macc I am good with it. If we keep him Im good with it. I think he has show to be able to sign, make moves at an acceptable level. Bowles on the other hand showed us again he is horrible, how do you not notice your center with a dislocated finger can snap int he shotgun for the entire game. He literally waited until it gave the other team points and then kept doing it...**** I hate these assholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 4 hours ago, nico002 said: McCarthy Mcdaniels Bienemy Jets should offer McDaniels a offer he can’t refuse. He is exactly what we need. A young strict offensive mind for once as HC. Plus I’d love to see pats miss out on their heir for HC, just like they lost they qb.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Stark said: Maybe, but lets say that, for whatever reason only Bowles is fired. Defilippo would have, 21 yr old Sam and $100 million to make this offense his. That is 2 big positives, when considering the Defense doesn't need a lot (pass rusher as always). Mac would be dumb not to get Defilippo whatever he wanted. Obviously knows the Jets like him. Didn't they try to talk to him the last two years and Philly said no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, section314 said: Obviously knows the Jets like him. Didn't they try to talk to him the last two years and Philly said no? I think, IIRC, they actually blocked us from talking to him - or promoted him to keep us from doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenwichjetfan Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I would love Arians. I would like Defilippo. Shannahan is old and has been out of the game, so I don't know if I'd want him managing day to day....but one thing is certain: He'd help Sam realize his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Jets are going to make a play for ex Giant coach Payton I hear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, SouthernJet said: Jets are going to make a play for ex Giant coach Payton I hear Who? Sean Payton? They'd have to give up a boatload of picks to even talk to the Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 5 hours ago, KRL said: I did some quick research on replacements with an offensive background on the pro level: Todd Monken (TB OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Monken Matt LaFleur (TEN OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_LaFleur John DeFilippo (MIN OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_DeFilippo Eric Bieniemy (KC OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Bieniemy Peter Carmichael (NO OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Carmichael_Jr. Mark Helfrich (CHI OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Helfrich_(American_football) Randy Fichtner (PIT OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Fichtner Bill Lazor (CIN OC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Lazor who cares about off or def,,a smart coach will get a strong coordinator for other side of ball.. I want the best HC no matter where he made his bones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 No Jim shwartzSent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 ?Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jets rooter Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 I would think that the jets need a clean sweep.from the top mgt. down.watching the jets play proves my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Chris Johnson has to get w/GM and say 'Lets take heat and fire him before Woody gets back" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, SouthernJet said: who cares about off or def,,a smart coach will get a strong coordinator for other side of ball.. I want the best HC no matter where he made his bones I hear what you are saying. The issue and reason why I prefer O is that success under defensive coaches is not sustainable. Let’s say we get a good offensive coordinator...that will just leave for a HC job somewhere else. Also, these D guys are so conservative. They are willing to throw all our blitz on D but then want to run run pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 The best thing I’ve read is getting Mike Shanaham as VP of everything. Let him decide if Macc stays. Have him hire a new GM if he decides. Let him pick a coach and have him help said coach build his staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJIII Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Gotta rid yourself of the coach and the GM. New coach should certainly be offensive minded and have complete player personnel control. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said: On paper I agree. The one caveat is "incompetent ownership" which is probably the worst trait a team can have. The giants won 2 super bowls in 5 years and their owner is a skinny Mr. Magoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 If either Harbaugh is available you absolutely have to find a way to hire them. There won’t be anybody else available with a better resume, and we need to try an experienced head coach this time around, with the prior three having none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 If Bruce Arians ever returns to the NFL as a head coach, it will only be for the Cleveland Browns. "Cleveland is the only job I would consider," he told reporters Sunday when asked if he would be interested in coaching again, per Steve Doerschuk of CantonRep.com. When asked who he would hire for Cleveland's head coaching position after the season, however, Arians said his guy would be former Indianapolis Colts head coach Chuck Pagano. This article will be updated to provide more information on this story as it becomes available. Get the best sports content from the web and social in the new B/R app. Get the app and get the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said: The giants won 2 super bowls in 5 years and their owner is a skinny Mr. Magoo Right but they had the proper infrastructure in place (Coughlin) prior to that owner having any real power. Now that Coughlin and Acorsi are long gone we're only suddenly starting to see how incompetent John Mara is. Plus those SB teams were pretty fluky. 19-13 combined records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It may take a coaching change to make sure #Jets rookie Sam Darnold's early slipups don't turn into long-term habits.@Danny_Heifetz: http://therin.gr/QrF5O7f 2:22 PM - Nov 5, 2018 The Jets May Be Turning Sam Darnold Into Mark Sanchez The rookie signal-caller is playing like one of the worst QBs in the league, and it may take a coaching change to make sure the habits he’s picking up don’t stick theringer.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Saul Goodman said: If either Harbaugh is available you absolutely have to find a way to hire them. There won’t be anybody else available with a better resume, and we need to try an experienced head coach this time around, with the prior three having none. that was one of main complaints is hiring folks w/zero Coordinator experience, or 2 years experience or never being a HC before. and worst is Woody doing NFL a favor with Herm hire. The guy was never even a damn coordinator. We hired a secondary coach as HC to make NFL happy and maybe get NY a Super Bowl, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 It will be really interesting to see what happens. With Darnold here it's time to get offensive. My 1st choice is by far Mike Shannahan. He's always been Belichicks cryptonite & would have Sam Darnold up to speed & surrounded with talent & an actual offensive system precisely when Belichick is mulling retirement on Nantucket & Brady finds it harder & harder to show up for camp. I'm thinking 2/3 years so Sam would be 23/24 years old hitting his prime. Also Shanahan is familiar with Dennison who can be completely honest with him about who needs to go on the Oline & help him in the draft & free agency to replace the sh*tshow we watch every Sunday with this incompetent line I know it seems like a long shot at a chance for Mike Shanahan but there is another positive sell to him other than Darnold, control, 106 million & most of their draft picks including 2 third rounders. A pretty damn good defense that has UNDERPERFORMED under Bowles. Mike had a horrible defense when he was at Washington. Another positive is how sweet would it be to fill the vacuum left by knocking the Pats off of their pedestal? I don't think there was ever any love lost between Shanahan & Belichick, but BB always showed a mutual respect for Shanahans coaching acumen, something he's never shown for Rex or Bowles. Defilipo or Carmichael are my backup plans. Who ever can fix this offense will have a DC benefitting from finally playing with some leads. I think Shepard & Foly are ready to roll next year, so other than pass rusher, 90% of assets can be used to fix the offense! So that would be like 95 million in free agency & 7 draft picks including a high 1st rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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