Saul Goodman Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Don’t know if this merits a thread but had to share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Saul Goodman said: Don’t know if this merits a thread but had to share. Todd is worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Charley Winner was worse than both of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Now we are talking elite Company..Deservedly so I might add LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsYanks13 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 As a coach, Kotite is one guy you don’t want to be compared to. When he was the jets coach, he should have been driven to the nearest vet and put to sleep!Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Rasmussen Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Now we are talking elite Company..Deservedly so I might add LOLBut Lou Holtz was the worse of allSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffhand Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 4 hours ago, The Crimson King said: Charley Winner was worse than both of them and Lou Holtz was worse than Winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Randy Rasmussen said: But Lou Holtz was the worse of all Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app You just reminded me that he wrote a fight song and made the team memorize and sing it lmaooooo. Starts at 4:20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 9 hours ago, The Crimson King said: Charley Winner was worse than both of them lol no doubt that was a disaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Only the JETS...................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 It always feels worse when you are living through something. Kotite was awful. Bowles is awful. Kotite was worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 9 hours ago, tuffhand said: and Lou Holtz was worse than Winner. ha ! good point Imagine what this board would have been like if they had internet in '76? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuffhand Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 1 hour ago, The Crimson King said: ha ! good point Imagine what this board would have been like if they had internet in '76? After the victory, Holtz whipped out sheets of papers and distributed them to the players. ''I've written a fight song,'' he explained. ''We're going to sing it after every Jets victory.'' The song, to the tune of ''The Caissons Go Rolling Along,'' started: ''Win the game, fight like men, we're together win or lose, New York Jets go rolling along.'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 15 hours ago, The Crimson King said: Charley Winner was worse than both of them Lou Holtz was worse than Winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 10 hours ago, tuffhand said: and Lou Holtz was worse than Winner. You beat me to it. What he did with Richard Todd was idiotic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 16 hours ago, Saul Goodman said: Don’t know if this merits a thread but had to share. "Dad?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 9 hours ago, Saul Goodman said: You just reminded me that he wrote a fight song and made the team memorize and sing it lmaooooo. Starts at 4:20 Howard Cosell was the best ever at presenting prime time football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 16 hours ago, Smashmouth said: Todd is worse That is silly. 4 wins in 2 years. 3-13, and then got worse. Only Hue Jackson is worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 16 hours ago, JetsYanks13 said: As a coach, Kotite is one guy you don’t want to be compared to. When he was the jets coach, he should have been driven to the nearest vet and put to sleep! Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app in all fairness, kotite drafted some pretty good players. as a coach he was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, chirorob said: That is silly. 4 wins in 2 years. 3-13, and then got worse. Only Hue Jackson is worse it's not that silly when you compare the talent levels of the teams. imo kotite's teams had more talent. they were misused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 hours ago, rangerous said: it's not that silly when you compare the talent levels of the teams. imo kotite's teams had more talent. they were misused. Kotite's teams had way more talent. Parcells had them at 9-7 the year after 1-15. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 36 minutes ago, chirorob said: Kotite's teams had way more talent. Parcells had them at 9-7 the year after 1-15. Both Kotite's teams and Bowles' teams have greatly underachieved. Kotite did lead a team to the playoffs in Philly and they won their first playoff game in 12 seasons under him. Bowles is a modern day kotite, he's actually worse than kotite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 the last offensive HC of the NYJ was Rich Kotite maybe that's why Tuna, Groh, Herm, Mangini, Rex and now Bowles have been defensive by the way I am old enough to have lived through Kotite and that team had talent, they signed all sorts of free agents etc. Maybe they are just as bad coaches (they aren't) but in terms of resources, Kotite had Hess' full support while Bowles is building a bridge over the Hudson river with popsicle sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: the last offensive HC of the NYJ was Rich Kotite maybe that's why Tuna, Groh, Herm, Mangini, Rex and now Bowles have been defensive by the way I am old enough to have lived through Kotite and that team had talent, they signed all sorts of free agents etc. Maybe they are just as bad coaches (they aren't) but in terms of resources, Kotite had Hess' full support while Bowles is building a bridge over the Hudson river with popsicle sticks. The highlight of the Kotite years had to be the "shovel pass" from Bubby Brister that Sam Mills of the Panthers intercepted and returned for a TD. Was Panthers first franchise win that day, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 29 minutes ago, nyjunc said: Both Kotite's teams and Bowles' teams have greatly underachieved. Kotite did lead a team to the playoffs in Philly and they won their first playoff game in 12 seasons under him. Bowles is a modern day kotite, he's actually worse than kotite. One of the problems is that Bowles isn't a modern day anything - he believes in D and the O doing just enough to win (as long as they run the ball and don't turn it over). He is a dinosaur. Maybe if he coached in the Kotite era, he would be a modern day something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 The really sad thing about all of this is that the Jets had Charlie Winner Lou Holtz (he proved out to be a pretty damn good coach at ND just did not fit the NFL) Joe Walton Bruce Coslet Rich Kotite and Todd Bowles This is like the Ring of Stupidity and Im sure Im leaving a few beauties out, not to mention that arguably one of the best coaches in the History of this league walked out on us in one day. This is why this organization sucks not because of players because of terrible coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Herm is still the worst in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Smashmouth said: Charlie Winner Lou Holtz Joe Walton Bruce Coslet Rich Kotite and Todd Bowles This is like the Ring of Stupidity lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Rasmussen Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Herm is still the worst in my bookAt least Herm made playoffsSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 16 hours ago, Obrien2Toon said: Herm is still the worst in my book This is why we can't have nice things. Jets fans have no appreciation for those that helped us achieve what little success we have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Randy Rasmussen said: At least Herm made playoffs Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Herm took over in 2001, a job no one wanted. we had THREE HCs walk out on us from Jan of 2000 through January of 2001. We had missed the playoffs 2 straight years and missed 8 of 9 years and just 2 times in 14 years. we then made 2 straight postseasons and 3 of 4. The 3 postseasons in 4 years from 2001-2004 represent the ONLY 4 year stretch in our HISTORY where we made the playoffs 3 times. From 1970-2018 the New York Jets have won a grand total of TWO AFC East titles, one of these div titles came in 2002 led by Herm. In that 2002 season we became the ONLY non Pats team to win the AFC east title in a year where Brady was their primary starter. He doesn't deserve a statue outside the Stadium, he's not a hall of famer but can we at least appreciate all the good he did while HC of the Jets? There is a space btw great and terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 2:05 PM, nyjunc said: Both Kotite's teams and Bowles' teams have greatly underachieved. Kotite did lead a team to the playoffs in Philly and they won their first playoff game in 12 seasons under him. Bowles is a modern day kotite, he's actually worse than kotite. 3-13 and 1-15. Four wins in two years. Bowles won more games in a single season than Kotite did in two. A one win season is inexcusable. Please don't force me to defend Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 11:23 AM, rangerous said: in all fairness, kotite drafted some pretty good players. as a coach he was terrible. He cursed us all by picking a second TE in four year in the first round over Warren Sapp. That was the most stupid stuff ever in the draft and considering all the vodou stuff Matt Millen did for Detroit it was an impossible feat to accomplish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 no doubt the kylre brady draft pick was a real head scratcher but at least brady lasted about 8 seasons and was a decent blocker. worse picks have been made by better coaches. but he also drafted keyshawn and signed chrebet as a free agent. where is the keyshawn and chrebet on this team? maybe enunwa comes close but after him not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 20 hours ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: 3-13 and 1-15. Four wins in two years. Bowles won more games in a single season than Kotite did in two. A one win season is inexcusable. Please don't force me to defend Bowles. Kotite has also made the playoffs and won a playoff game. Times are different now, FA was at its infancy in Kotite's years. Teams get good and bad in a hurry now. When Todd gets fired he will be the only coach in our history that was around at least 4 years and failed to make the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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