maury77 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 If the Jets were to hire Harbaugh, an interesting name for OC would be Mark Kafka, the QB coach in Kansas City. Harbaugh has ties to Andy Reid and Kafka has done wonders with Mahomes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 3 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said: Hmmm. The one year Kubiak and Harbaugh worked together the Ravens finished 8th in the League in scoring, 12th in yards. Yes I posted in the Kubiak thread that I 100% expect Harbaugh Kubiak and Pagano to be a package deal, and the Jets HAVE to get this done no matter what, it’s in Darnolds best interest since the offense won’t really change, and Dennison worked as QB coach on the 2014 Harbaugh Kubiak staff, I could see both Bates and Dennison staying on under Kubiak which keeps familiarity for Darnold, and helps take a lot of the nonsense off of Kubiak’s plate for health reasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Big win today How he handles Joe coming back and the team's performance after that will determine if he shakes free 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, Larz said: Big win today How he handles Joe coming back and the team's performance after that will determine if he shakes free I too think that how the team plays will dictate if the coach is kept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Yes I posted in the Kubiak thread that I 100% expect Harbaugh Kubiak and Pagano to be a package deal, and the Jets HAVE to get this done no matter what, it’s in Darnolds best interest since the offense won’t really change, and Dennison worked as QB coach on the 2014 Harbaugh Kubiak staff, I could see both Bates and Dennison staying on under Kubiak which keeps familiarity for Darnold, and helps take a lot of the nonsense off of Kubiak’s plate for health reasons. If Harbaugh and Kubiak reunite it will be in Denver. Elway and Kubiak are tight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Joejet said: If Harbaugh and Kubiak reunite it will be in Denver. Elway and Kubiak are tight. God damn Denver, and there beautiful city to live in, amazing fans, and friendly beat reporters, oh and John Elway! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 6:57 AM, HawkeyeJet said: LaCanfora is plugged in generally, but in Baltimore especially. Harbaugh moves to the top of my list. Near the bottom of mine. He is not a develop the QN guy. Would be an awful hire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted November 19, 2018 Author Share Posted November 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, johnnysd said: Near the bottom of mine. He is not a develop the QN guy. Would be an awful hire He turned Joe Flacco into a somewhat respectable NFL QB. You don't consider that QB development? I can understand not wanting Harbaugh. I cannot understand this reasoning, however. To each their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Larz said: Big win today How he handles Joe coming back and the team's performance after that will determine if he shakes free Big win for the Broncos today as well. Are they really going to give up on Vance "Diversity" Joseph after two seasons?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMo Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 6:07 PM, Joe W. Namath said: Harbaugh would be an awful hiring. He is clueless on the offensive side of the ball. Matt Lafleur is the guy. There is no other option. Why does no one mention defillipo I think that guy would be great for darnold and has been around a bunch of different stops. Think he's primed to make the jump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deucebag Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, TheMo said: Why does no one mention defillipo I think that guy would be great for darnold and has been around a bunch of different stops. Think he's primed to make the jump. Here's a name to ponder: Mark Helfrich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 1:13 PM, Sperm Edwards said: You sure Harbaugh is the reason for the offensive talent level being what it's been? I don't think he wins in that power struggle between him & Ozzie, and a divorce right as the GM torch is being passed would seem to indicate this is so. Flacco is a hit-or-miss QB. He's not great but he's not useless. It's possible this is about as well as he could have been developed; it's convenient to say whatever ceiling you see shouldn't have been such a low one. I think you're overrating their SB roster. They had a good team, but they were a far cry from HOF players (in their prime) all over the field. Suggs wasn't 100% all year after his achilles injury; Reed was in his final full NFL season; Boldin was still very solid but not what he was in his mid-20s; Ngata was a beast in his prime, no doubt about it; Yanda was the only dominant OLman they had (though Osemele would become great for them later); Rice was a great RB back then but he was no postseason kingmaker. I don't think he's the most amazing HC ever, but we could do worse and the track record suggests we are likely to do worse with the Johnsons entrenching themselves as HC-selectors. I found Flacco barely watchable. You are right about that SB team, though. Personally, I want a real coach for Sam. Be it a HC or an OC. Not a great Harbaugh fan, but an independent, QB -friendly OC with a bit of imagination and some autonomy would be nice. Isn't H a bit of an OC killer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 14 hours ago, Larz said: Big win today How he handles Joe coming back and the team's performance after that will determine if he shakes free I don’t think he gets fired. A more realistic coach who is getting fired and will be available is Mike McCarthy Only reason I like McCarthy is because I think the WCO fits him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Lupz27 said: God damn Denver, and there beautiful city to live in, amazing fans, and friendly beat reporters, oh and John Elway! Who is maybe the only GMworse at evaluating the qb position than Mike Macagnan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 23 hours ago, HawkeyeJet said: Hmmm. The one year Kubiak and Harbaugh worked together the Ravens finished 8th in the League in scoring, 12th in yards. w/ Flacco, Justin Forsett, Steve Smith and Torey Smith. Not exactly all star talent. That said, this a pipe dream. Guys with this type of pedigree dont coach the Jets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoni Beast Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Lupz27 said: God damn Denver, and there beautiful city to live in, amazing fans, and friendly beat reporters, oh and John Elway! Exactly our problem in getting that coachinf staff. We do have 3 things to offer that Denver won’t. - A young stud QB to groom - Cap Space - But most importantly for any coach’s dream scenario. VP of Football Ops. No chance in hell Elways gives that up for any coach. Let Mac be the “gm” in name only, sign the contracts, nod yes, say “I understand” (kevin pollack as phillip green in Casino). Harbaugh will make all football decisions and coach. If only we had the balls to do this... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 9:57 AM, HawkeyeJet said: LaCanfora is plugged in generally, but in Baltimore especially. Harbaugh moves to the top of my list. You obviously don't follow Ravens football. They struggle on offense almost as much as the Jets and they have Joe Flacco at QB. Harbaugh would not even be on my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 serious question if Jon Gruden is worth 100 mil what is John Harbaugh worth? this franchise doesn't care about winning all they care about is money it's why Bowles hasn't been fired already and also why he was hired in the first place side note Todd Bowles was a DB coach under Parcells and known for developing DBs, you know who is developing like crazy, Jamal Adams Bowles is not a Kotite level dummy he's just not a QB guy. I understand wanting a QB guy but then again are we even sure Sam Darnold is even good? What if the franchise is choosing between two QB guys and the better one says, I want a big armed Mahomes not a Darnold. The sh*tty guy says I live for the West coast and dink and dunk Darnold is great. How is that an improvement? The franchise is tied to Darnold for the next 5 years not the next HC or GM. in fact they could not fire Bowles and Gates at all, do nothing and Darnold will improve, just because it's year 2. The question is how much he will improve but he's not going to be a rookie. It might take 5, 8, 10 years for Darnold to be a legit starter, if at all. that's the reality. There's a reason the dude didn't go 1 and we saw it the last 3 games he started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 6:15 PM, Joe W. Namath said: He hired marc trestman too. Harbaugh is an awful offensive mind. Get out of here with this guy. Totally agree. Baltimore struggles on offense almost as much as the Jets and they have a proven QB in Joe Flacco. Harbaugh is over rated because his HOF defense won him a SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-Rex Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, bitonti said: serious question if Jon Gruden is worth 100 mil what is John Harbaugh worth? this franchise doesn't care about winning all they care about is money it's why Bowles hasn't been fired already Bowles hasn't been fired because the Jets have NO ONE on this inexperienced, inept staff that can do the job and it would be a serious disruption. I say let Bowles suffer through the rest of this season with the hot garbage game plans he devises and watch the team go 4-12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Ex-Rex said: Bowles hasn't been fired because the Jets have NO ONE on this inexperienced, inept staff that can do the job and it would be a serious disruption. I say let Bowles suffer through the rest of this season with the hot garbage game plans he devises and watch the team go 4-12. Why is the staff inexperienced and inept? Because they are cheap. Why is there no QB coach? Cheap. Bowles is the 28th highest paid HC in the league they hire guys who have no prior experience. Because those guys cost less. You get what you pay for in coaching, and there's no salary cap. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 22 hours ago, Lupz27 said: Yes I posted in the Kubiak thread that I 100% expect Harbaugh Kubiak and Pagano to be a package deal, and the Jets HAVE to get this done no matter what, it’s in Darnolds best interest since the offense won’t really change, and Dennison worked as QB coach on the 2014 Harbaugh Kubiak staff, I could see both Bates and Dennison staying on under Kubiak which keeps familiarity for Darnold, and helps take a lot of the nonsense off of Kubiak’s plate for health reasons. Boggles the mind there are Jets fans who think "the offense not changing" is good for Sam Darnold. This time next year Bates should be halfway down the Appalachian Trail growing out his beard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Relax the odds of either Harbaugh ever coming here are slim to zero we’re either doing what Fatcessa is talking about with hiring Arians and keeping Todd as DC or hiring some offensive assistant from somewhere I don’t think we even have a shot at LaFleur or Defilippo probably the hire will be Vince Lombardi’s grandson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said: Boggles the mind there are Jets fans who think "the offense not changing" is good for Sam Darnold. This time next year Bates should be halfway down the Appalachian Trail growing out his beard. So Joe Flacco has his best year ever under Kubiak, and Dennison in 2014. This offensive concept isn’t the problem, it’s made a ton of QB’s look good, got Kirk Cousins like 150 million in pay after the 3rd year of his Vikings contract, made Jay Cutler look decent. Get rid of Bowles, and this offense with a great play caller is more then fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: So Joe Flacco has his best year ever under Kubiak, and Dennison in 2014. This offensive concept isn’t the problem, it’s made a ton of QB’s look good, got Kirk Cousins like 150 million in pay after the 3rd year of his Vikings contract, made Jay Cutler look decent. Get rid of Bowles, and this offense with a great play caller is more then fine. Personally I think the NFL is changing and I want someone who is more progressive and innovative. It's not that this offense can't work I just don't think it's going to get the most out of what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 minute ago, UntouchableCrew said: Personally I think the NFL is changing and I want someone who is more progressive and innovative. It's not that this offense can't work I just don't think it's going to get the most out of what we have. Do those innovative coaches come with Todd Gurley? Alvin Kamara? I want a innovative system to, and the Kubiak system with Kubiak at the helm as OC with hopefully L Bell then yes I can see that O system with Bell, and hopefully 1 other playmaker at WR they don’t currently have start to resemble a modern NFL offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 No way Harbaugh comes here is Mac is GM. He's not going to hitch himself to a GM on a short leash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 minute ago, jeremy2020 said: No way Harbaugh comes here is Mac is GM. He's not going to hitch himself to a GM on a short leash. Even if Macc was fired today he wouldn't come here. Why would he work for the same organization that took the Ravens' scraps? Remember, when Rex Ryan wanted to become a HC, the Ravens went for Harbaugh instead and Rex came here. I'm not even sure a GM/HC combo job would entice him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Jets Fans, lol. "Harbaugh? I've heard of him! SIGN HIM NOW!!!!!" Nothing like a "name" people have heard of to get them all frothy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Fish .. who do you want ? Jets Fans, lol. "Harbaugh? I've heard of him! SIGN HIM NOW!!!!!" Nothing like a "name" people have heard of to get them all frothy. Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Dunnie said: Fish .. who do you want ? Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Does it matter? Whomever we wind up with will in truth be option #3 after options #1 and #2 turn us down, they'll likely be a rookie HC, likely Defense oriented, same as always. What I don't want are more of that (above) nor some recycled has-been (has-beens pretty much never win it all again). Young, offensive-minded, and not someone just fired after failing elsewhere. I don't scout assistant coaches, got anyone that fits this bill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Bring back Rex. Let's get our swagger back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, sourceworx said: Bring back Rex. Let's get our swagger back. Only if he gains 250 lb back. Fat Rex > Skinny Rex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Only if he gains 250 lb back. Fat Rex > Skinny Rex Watch Rex after the Harris pick. Watch Braylon Edwards drag three defenders into the end zone with him. Watch Shaun Ellis sack Brady, and step over him after. It's f*cking beautiful. Rex IS the Jets. Bring him home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 My criteria for the Jets head coach in 2019: 1 - Not Todd Bowles 2 - ANY coach who understands that offense is the new king in the NFL and will demand weapons to surround Darnold with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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