freestater Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Every coach with this owner has been a defensive "guru" (?) I'm not ready to see the best chance that we've had at QB since I've been around, getting stunted by one more defensive guy. Give me a guy who can develop this kid. Defilippo, Shanahan, the titans guy. That's the most important thing now. If woody goes back in for one more defensive guy, I'm gonna freakin platz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 I don't see how they could hire a Defensive guy when we have a raw QB with superstar potential like Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, freestater said: Every coach with this owner has been a defensive "guru" (?) I'm not ready to see the best chance that we've had at QB since I've been around, getting stunted by one more defensive guy. Give me a guy who can develop this kid. Defilippo, Shanahan, the titans guy. That's the most important thing now. If woody goes back in for one more defensive guy, I'm gonna freakin platz. I'm shvitzing just thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsbb Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just now, freestater said: Every coach with this owner has been a defensive "guru" (?) I'm not ready to see the best chance that we've had at QB since I've been around, getting stunted by one more defensive guy. Give me a guy who can develop this kid. Defilippo, Shanahan, the titans guy. That's the most important thing now. If woody goes back in for one more defensive guy, I'm gonna freakin platz. So I guess you will be disappointed when Chris decides not to fire Bowles because he was competitive against the Patriots and they go 2-4 down the stretch beating the Texans and Bills. Yea I see this as a possibility..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just now, Jetsbb said: So I guess you will be disappointed when Chris decides not to fire Bowles because he was competitive against the Patriots and they go 2-4 down the stretch beating the Texans and Bills. Yea I see this as a possibility..... Yes. That's accurate. Disappointed. Mildly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Grandy said: I don't see how they could hire a Defensive guy when we have a raw QB with superstar potential like Darnold. I hope not. I hope for a lot of things with this team, and to tell ya the truth...I'm beginning to notice a pattern. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just now, freestater said: I hope not. I hope for a lot of things with this team, and to tell ya the truth...I'm beginning to notice a pattern. ? The Namath curse is supposed to expire this year, and we already lucked into the top QB to come out since Luck. Let's hope for some more tendency breakers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 It's a shonda! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, freestater said: Every coach with this owner has been a defensive "guru" (?) I'm not ready to see the best chance that we've had at QB since I've been around, getting stunted by one more defensive guy. Give me a guy who can develop this kid. Defilippo, Shanahan, the titans guy. That's the most important thing now. If woody goes back in for one more defensive guy, I'm gonna freakin platz. I know what you're saying and how you feel but you can't limit yourself like that. Look at Parcells, Beliprick even Vrabel this year, all D backgrounds. Depends on the man, his support system , players etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 The offense defense thing is not the thing in my mind It's smart and aggressive that matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just now, Thai Jet said: I know what you're saying and how you feel but you can't limit yourself like that. Look at Parcells, Beliprick even Vrabel this year, all D backgrounds. Depends on the man, his support system , players etc. Tomlin too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, freestater said: Give me a guy who can develop this kid. Defilippo, Shanahan, the titans guy. That's the most important thing now. If woody goes back in for one more defensive guy, I'm gonna freakin platz. This Post 1000000% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 .and his OC I know what you're saying and how you feel but you can't limit yourself like that. Look at Parcells, Beliprick even Vrabel this year, all D backgrounds. Depends on the man, his support system , players etc.Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Larz said: The offense defense thing is not the thing in my mind It's smart and aggressive that matters 8 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: I know what you're saying and how you feel but you can't limit yourself like that. Look at Parcells, Beliprick even Vrabel this year, all D backgrounds. Depends on the man, his support system , players etc. I get ya, both of you. It's just, at this point I feel like a guy who has pushed a door 5 or 6 times in a row, and nothing's happened. Door hasn't budged. Might be time to pull the door and see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtina Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 29 minutes ago, Grandy said: I don't see how they could hire a Defensive guy when we have a raw QB with superstar potential like Darnold. You don’t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, freestater said: I get ya, both of you. It's just, at this point I feel like a guy who has pushed a door 5 or 6 times in a row, and nothing's happened. Door hasn't budged. Might be time to pull the door and see what happens If it's an executive coach that doesn't coordinate either side, the offensive coordinator and QB coach will be as important It's more of a package deal really With everything I've posted, the 2 guys I'm keeping in mind are offensive coaches, Dan Campbell and Matt Campbell Defensive coordinators tend to be conservative but belicheat Tomlin and Carroll oversee very productive offenses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I would be on board for jim shwartz. Darnold wouldn't have to be great with what I believe shwartz would have our defense playing than because the defense would be solid we could focus more on offensive talent to make up for it.Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Thai Jet said: I know what you're saying and how you feel but you can't limit yourself like that. Look at Parcells, Beliprick even Vrabel this year, all D backgrounds. Depends on the man, his support system , players etc. right. offense, defense, it just doesn't matter. what does matter is the coach knows the game backwards and forwards and is able to make the players better. just about all of the coaches know the x's and o's. it's the special guy who knows how to get the most out of his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL047 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Everyone here is saying hiring a defensive guy is bad!!!! Well even hiring a offensive guy is bad!!!! Right now everyone is throwing out names but no one here is thinking!!! Look at all the candidates that everyone is throwing out, not one of those candidates have head coaching experience not one. All of these coaches are coordinators or some type of coach but none with head coaching experience. What you are hiring is a "rookie" coach, who is learning to be a head coach. With that you are going to get a lot of mistakes, and the Jets fans are not going to put up with mistakes. The Jets don't need another inexperienced coach taking over this team. What they need to do is hire someone with head coaching experience like one of the Harbaugh's . They both have had success being head coach in the NFL level. Both are strict and demand a lot from their players. It will take a lot to get either of them to coach the Jets. I believe money won't be the issue but total control will be the issue. I would take a chance on experience than hiring inexperience!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Heard they're looking at Wannstedt who used to be Miami's HC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetgreen13 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Grandy said: I don't see how they could hire a Defensive guy when we have a raw QB with superstar potential like Darnold. how long have you been following this team?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 This is the John Harbaugh problem. He is a Special Teams Coach. He is a good coach. But his OC is Marty M. In order to get offensive skills, you have to make the coach an HC and pay them like one. Then they go and hire someone like Wade Phillips as DC. That will be Bowles next job, and his permanent one. DC to an Offensive HC. This was Dan Quinn's problem. He is a good coach but needed to hire someone like Sharkanian after Shanahan left him to be a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 The only acceptable defensive coach is Nick Saban. Otherwise, the Jets will be doing cold soliciting calls to find STH's to fill the stadium. And get hung up on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, varjet said: This is the John Harbaugh problem. He is a Special Teams Coach. He is a good coach. But his OC is Marty M. In order to get offensive skills, you have to make the coach an HC and pay them like one. Then they go and hire someone like Wade Phillips as DC. That will be Bowles next job, and his permanent one. DC to an Offensive HC. This was Dan Quinn's problem. He is a good coach but needed to hire someone like Sharkanian after Shanahan left him to be a HC. At Ramapo High Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Jetsbb said: So I guess you will be disappointed when Chris decides not to fire Bowles because he was competitive against the Patriots and they go 2-4 down the stretch beating the Texans and Bills. Yea I see this as a possibility..... You couldn't be more hopelessly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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