DonCorleone Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Brutal honesty as Mangini would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Interesting take. On one hand I can understand the players quitting on this coach. On the other hand, I dont want players that quit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 it's not just that the hc is getting fired - there's going to be a real housecleaning on the offense especially. the players aren't stupid, they know the entire offseason is going to be about fixing the offense and getting talent around darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 It's going to be a bumpy ride. At this rate there are going to be some epic beat downs before the season is over. The Offence is so bad, We could run a collage wishbone Offence and still get more yardage then we do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: it's not just that the hc is getting fired - there's going to be a real housecleaning on the offense especially. the players aren't stupid, they know the entire offseason is going to be about fixing the offense and getting talent around darnold. Looks like another at least 3-4 year rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, MichaelScott said: Interesting take. On one hand I can understand the players quitting on this coach. On the other hand, I dont want players that quit ? Meh, it happens a lot when players don't respect the coach. Get Bowles out and these guys will work a lot harder under the interim HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Damien Woody should really tell us how he really feels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen X Jet Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 These aren’t the first players to quit on Bowles. Mo and Sheldon are obvious examples but there are plenty more from year’s past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Meh, it happens a lot when players don't respect the coach. Get Bowles out and these guys will work a lot harder under the interim HC. Word. Fire Bowles today. Hire an interim coach. ‘Ok I’m the interim coach boys and just to let you know I won’t be here next year BUT I can assure you the NFL is looking at this team and if you don’t play your azzess off for the remainder of the year, you won’t be in the NFL either!’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Not usually a fan of Woody as a talking head, but he's right on on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Rex's fire was never something I questioned, and he speaks for many Jet fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Rex's fire was never something I questioned, and he speaks for many Jet fans Absolutely his best attribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, Integrity28 said: Absolutely his best attribute. rex's players spoke much higher of him than bowles' do of him. and they never quit on rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I don't think the players quit on Bowles. It's clear the offense is not talented enough and Bowles is not putting the defense in a position to succeed. Offense falls on Macc and defense is on Bowles. If I was Bates I'd be pissed for taking a job with sh*t talent. For the defensive minded coach Bowles is, his defenses sure have been trash the last 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: rex's players spoke much higher of him than bowles' do of him. and they never quit on rex. Rex's loyalists would run through a wall for him. Bowles guys would run through wet tissue paper - on a good day when they're executing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: Rex's fire was never something I questioned, and he speaks for many Jet fans Can we get someone with the attitude of Rex who is offensive minded? I don't miss the guy but man I miss the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, BallinPB said: I don't think the players quit on Bowles. It's clear the offense is not talented enough and Bowles is not putting the defense in a position to succeed. Offense falls on Macc and defense is on Bowles. If I was Bates I'd be pissed for taking a job with sh*t talent. For the defensive minded coach Bowles is, his defenses sure have been trash the last 2 years. The thing is what does Bates do. He watched Morton get fired for going against Bowles last season, does he cut his own throat by doing the same. I'm not convinced Bowles has no say on O like some here report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, BallinPB said: I don't think the players quit on Bowles. It's clear the offense is not talented enough and Bowles is not putting the defense in a position to succeed. Offense falls on Macc and defense is on Bowles. If I was Bates I'd be pissed for taking a job with sh*t talent. For the defensive minded coach Bowles is, his defenses sure have been trash the last 2 years. Have to disagree with your first statement. The players DID quit. They quit during the Fish game. They like Bowles, he's a nice guy, they don't respect him as a HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Bowles is so bad you guys miss the rex days. Hahahahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 18 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Absolutely his best attribute. If he could've only figured out a way to take off the clown suit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Just now, flgreen said: Have to disagree with your first statement. The players DID quit. They quit during the Fish game. They like Bowles, he's a nice guy, they don't respect him as a HC. worst indictment is that the defense completely quit yesterday and they did it before the game started. it's not like the defense played hard and mailed it in after halftime. i think adams is the true leader of the defense, for better or worse, and his complaints last week were really about how the defense has been carrying the team the past few weeks (vs. vikings, bears and dolphins) and the offense hasn't pulled its weight. so vs the bills the defense showed up with the mindset that they were going to lose b/c the offense sucks anyway, and that's very interesting b/c darnold wasn't the qb and defense still didn't show up from the opening kickoff. the huge rift in talent/draft picks/resources this team has put into the defense over the years at the expense of the offense is finally causing a rift that will doom the hc and maybe the gm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, flgreen said: Have to disagree with your first statement. The players DID quit. They quit during the Fish game. They like Bowles, he's a nice guy, they don't respect him as a HC. They don't fear him. Why try when the most you will get is a stern talking to or heart to heart. Bowles thinks these guys are self-motivated like he was. Most of them are not. Take a few guys jobs from them. Make them worry about the size of their pay checks. We are all, in the end, motivated by the money. It is the reason I go to work and put in effort. These guys are no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 hour ago, DonCorleone said: Brutal honesty as Mangini would say. Always liked damien. even his rants have class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark78 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Honestly, there is nothing left to say after Woody's take. Hit the nail on the head! Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: rex's players spoke much higher of him than bowles' do of him. and they never quit on rex. Rex made two AFC Championship games with decent talent. Rex went 8-8 with below average talent. Rex had his flaws, but he is a hundred times the coach Bowles wishes he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, flgreen said: Have to disagree with your first statement. The players DID quit. They quit during the Fish game. They like Bowles, he's a nice guy, they don't respect him as a HC. Possibly. Maybe they don't like or respect him? You don't quit on a guy you like and respect is what I'm trying to say I guess. Also, I find it hard to believe unless you're a player assured of a position that you're quitting on anything. Just doesnt make sense when your job is not guaranteed. The only one I can see quitting and still guarantee themselves a job is Darnold and he wasn't apart of that train wreck yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Rex made two AFC Championship games with decent talent. Rex went 8-8 with below average talent. Rex had his flaws, but he is a hundred times the coach Bowles wishes he was. Sadly, I think the NFL has left Rex in the rear view mirror. All of the rule changes favoring O have removed the most valuable tools from his bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I really fear with CJ in charge that @JiF is correct, and Chris won't have the balls to fire him on Black Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 35 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: rex's players spoke much higher of him than bowles' do of him. and they never quit on rex. There was a season they definitely quit on Rex, but they’ve done it every year with Bowles. The two coaches aren’t much different, frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, Sonny Werblin said: If he could've only figured out a way to take off the clown suit He’s a gross example of narcissistic personality disorder. No doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 32 minutes ago, BallinPB said: I don't think the players quit on Bowles. It's clear the offense is not talented enough and Bowles is not putting the defense in a position to succeed. Offense falls on Macc and defense is on Bowles. If I was Bates I'd be pissed for taking a job with sh*t talent. For the defensive minded coach Bowles is, his defenses sure have been trash the last 2 years. They didn’t quit on him? What do they have to do to see they did just that - walk off the field? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlito1171 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, flgreen said: I really fear with CJ in charge that @JiF is correct, and Chris won't have the balls to fire him on Black Monday. The Jets are rebranding themselves in the offseason......which means they have merch to push....no one is spending $$$ on Jets gear the way ownership would like them too if they don’t at least get rid of Bowles.....Ownership knows they have to make a change, they just won’t do it during the season....the fact that they are building a shortlist already makes sense...I just hope they hire someone to make the football decisions before anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammagen Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 50 minutes ago, BallinPB said: I don't think the players quit on Bowles. It's clear the offense is not talented enough and Bowles is not putting the defense in a position to succeed. Offense falls on Macc and defense is on Bowles. If I was Bates I'd be pissed for taking a job with sh*t talent. For the defensive minded coach Bowles is, his defenses sure have been trash the last 2 years. that defense sure looked like it quit on bowles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 47 minutes ago, 56mehl56 said: The thing is what does Bates do. He watched Morton get fired for going against Bowles last season, does he cut his own throat by doing the same. I'm not convinced Bowles has no say on O like some here report. Was Morton really fires for going against Bowles? I see this said here a lot and was wondering if it is facts or speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 16 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: Was Morton really fires for going against Bowles? I see this said here a lot and was wondering if it is facts or speculation Why else would you fire probably the best OC we had in the past decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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