Losmeister Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 about signing McClown and how good he'd be for Sam and the Jets... come on, you wankers, eat some crow... defending this dreck is bad enough... at least have the cojones to admit you didnt know wtf you were talking about.. theres at least 50 of you mokes... you should all be dunking your head in the nearest unflushed toilet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 The mentoring thing is one of the most over-rated, over-blown concepts in football. What Sam needed was a QB coach, not a back up QB acting like one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 No fanbase in America cares more about who the backup QB is than Jets fans. Kellen Clemens. Brett Ratliff. Tim Tebow. Greg McElroy. Matt Simms. Bryce Petty. Josh McCown. It never ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage69 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: The mentoring thing is one of the most over-rated, over-blown concepts in football. What Sam needed was a QB coach, not a back up QB acting like one. So Sam doesn't need a QB mentoring him he needs a QB coach to mentor him?? Err ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Mac was wrong again! Fire his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, Savage69 said: So Sam doesn't need a QB mentoring him he needs a QB coach to mentor him?? Err ok What value is the “mentor”? A good QB coach is far more valuable. It’s a silly concept. Who was Brady’s mentor? You think Favre mentored Rodgers? Who was Brees mentor? Rivers? Ben? Ryan? Whos mentoring Goff, Wentz, Mahomes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckkieB Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 McCown has been a good mentor to Darnold. He's a hard worker and goes about his business in a professional manner which is more than we can say about plenty of players. Sam is learning great preparation habits and how important it is to drown out the outside interference and focus on football. He's been worth every penny. Just remember that the best hitting coaches in baseball are ex players who couldn't hit. They mastered the theory of hitting but couldn;t execute due to lack of talent. This holds true for QB coaches too. McCown is as solid as they come in terms of QB theory and he's pssing on every nuggest of information to Darnold. This is a big WIN for the Jets and Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 McCown is very far down on the list of "what is wrong with the jets". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: What value is the “mentor”? A good QB coach is far more valuable. It’s a silly concept. Who was Brady’s mentor? You think Favre mentored Rodgers? Who was Brees mentor? Rivers? Ben? Ryan? Whos mentoring Goff, Wentz, Mahomes? We don't know since we're not Ram, Eagle or Chief fans but I'm sure there's someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Thai Jet said: We don't know since we're not Ram, Eagle or Chief fans but I'm sure there's someone. There is, the coaching staff. They don’t rely on the back up QB to coach up the starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 How were people wrong? You think McCown hasn't had a positive impact on Darnold? What are you basing that on? As far as "is he worth ten million" the answer is the same now as it was then -- not my money and we're way under the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I agree with the OP. Good quarterbacks want to play they don’t want to mentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, ChuckkieB said: McCown has been a good mentor to Darnold. He's a hard worker and goes about his business in a professional manner which is more than we can say about plenty of players. Sam is learning great preparation habits and how important it is to drown out the outside interference and focus on football. He's been worth every penny. Just remember that the best hitting coaches in baseball are ex players who couldn't hit. They mastered the theory of hitting but couldn;t execute due to lack of talent. This holds true for QB coaches too. McCown is as solid as they come in terms of QB theory and he's pssing on every nuggest of information to Darnold. This is a big WIN for the Jets and Darnold. kool aid vendor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard King Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 POTW for throwing up a @Pac post for this thread btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Jets fans..., pfffft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 16 minutes ago, Losmeister said: about signing McClown and how good he'd be for Sam and the Jets... come on, you wankers, eat some crow... defending this dreck is bad enough... at least have the cojones to admit you didnt know wtf you were talking about.. theres at least 50 of you mokes... you should all be dunking your head in the nearest unflushed toilet Well this thread belongs in the idiotic hall of fame. What did anyone expect from a 38 y/o journeyman QB who hasn't take a snap since August 9? So we all get to be called British ridicule names because of this? LOL I think the only real "wanker" here is the OP TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Odd flex but OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: McCown is very far down on the list of "what is wrong with the jets". He's the highest paid player on offense. Perhaps a better center, an actual tight end or another wideout would have been a better use of funds? this roster construction is absolute balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 How do you blame Josh McCown for the terrible OL especially the C and how can you blame him for the JAG WR's and worst play calling in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, bitonti said: He's the highest paid player on offense. Perhaps a better center, an actual tight end or another wideout would have been a better use of funds? this roster construction is absolute balls. He’s the only position “coach” who counts against the salary cap. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Hey my name is in lights! Oh btw McCown still incredible mentor to Sam and worth his money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack48 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 38 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: The mentoring thing is one of the most over-rated, over-blown concepts in football. What Sam needed was a QB coach, not a back up QB acting like one. backup lifetime loser--dink and dunker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: How do you blame Josh McCown for the terrible OL especially the C and how can you blame him for the JAG WR's and worst play calling in the NFL. No one's blaming him for anything. His presence on the roster is of zero importance. That's the reason people are wondering why we're paying him $10 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Pac said: Hey my name is in lights! Oh btw McCown still incredible mentor to Sam and worth his money... lmfao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 20 minutes ago, bitonti said: He's the highest paid player on offense. Perhaps a better center, an actual tight end or another wideout would have been a better use of funds? this roster construction is absolute balls. The Jets had cap room where they could have done those things. It just appears they did not want to, or did not find the players that they wanted for their roster. Call that what you will terms of management, but it is not a "McCown" thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIJetsFan Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 How about we just kept Teddy and have Sam and Teddy compete for the start year in and year out. Paying McCown was a total dunce move. I said it then and I'm saying it now. This franchise just has no institutional knowledge of how to handle success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Cant hate on Joshy because this stupid regime thought he was worth 10 mil to play madden with Darnold. Todd said he's the best player he's ever coached. There wasnt a day in time where Joshy wasnt their #1 priority signing this offseason. This is no different than, Fitz is our starter. Todd, is a moron. Nice guy, total moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, JiF said: Cant hate on Joshy because this stupid regime thought he was worth 10 mil to play madden with Darnold. Todd said he's the best player he's ever coached. There wasnt a day in time where Joshy wasnt their #1 priority signing this offseason. This is no different than, Fitz is our starter. Todd, is a moron. Nice guy, total moron. I believe Cousins was their number 1 offseason priority. And that would have been real dumb, in my estimation. After that, they knew they needed a veteran qb, and that was McCown. I will say it again, that is far down on the list of what ails this Jets team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I had no problem with signing mcown as a backup, he is a good team guy and played well last year. The 10 million amount is pretty awful but this regime loves overpaying lousy vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 42 minutes ago, dbatesman said: No one's blaming him for anything. His presence on the roster is of zero importance. That's the reason people are wondering why we're paying him $10 million. And who on this roster should we be giving that money to? We are under the cap. There is no reason not to spend this money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 This is freaking hilarious. Here is what is wrong with the team. We pay the backup QB too much money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Who cares? They had the cap room and they didn't have a starter when they signed him. What's all the fuss about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
56mehl56 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, sec101row23 said: What value is the “mentor”? A good QB coach is far more valuable. It’s a silly concept. Who was Brady’s mentor? You think Favre mentored Rodgers? Who was Brees mentor? Rivers? Ben? Ryan? Whos mentoring Goff, Wentz, Mahomes? I'm sure McCown has seen more offfenses than the QB coach, having him in the film room breaking down what he sees in invaluable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, sec101row23 said: What value is the “mentor”? A good QB coach is far more valuable. It’s a silly concept. Who was Brady’s mentor? You think Favre mentored Rodgers? Who was Brees mentor? Rivers? Ben? Ryan? Whos mentoring Goff, Wentz, Mahomes? McVay, Pederson, Reid...the way things are trending in Chicago we’re going to be talking about Nagy and Trubisky soon too. Need to get better offensive coaching for Darnold. What Chicago has done isn’t a bad blueprint. Got their franchise QB a good offensive mind and some weapons - huge difference year over year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BallinPB Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 There's nothing that says McCown hasn't been a positive influence and mentor to Darnold. We all knew McCown wasn't going to be a good QB. Sunday shouldn't have surprised anyone. We all also know that Darnold is being thrown out there with sub par talent. That's not McCowns fault. McCown is probably teaching Darnold the things you don't see. How to prepare in the NFL, being a good teammate/leader etc. How diluted is this fan base that we thought Robbie Anderson was a good #1 receiver. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about Spencer Long's abysmal season, letting go Pryor, Cannon sniffing the field when he cant hold on to a ball, etc. There's at least 10 things I can go to on offense before I talk about McCown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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