GreenWhite Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 If that happens do you try to trade down or draft a stud OL or pass rusher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Nope you stay put and draft an offensive playmaker preferably a WR-RB-OL in the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I'll admit I'm not a mathematician but I think it's worth noting we probably have a 99.9% probability at at top 5 pick at this point. I think you wait and see where we land but trading down makes a LOT of sense. We have lots of needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 There's no offensive talent at the top of the draft. The OT from Alabama, if anything. Take the best pass rusher or trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenFish Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 As it stands, I prefer we trade down 5 or so slots and pickup a 2nd round pick. This draft feels like it’s going to be heavy D up top. So we should still be able to get a top offensive player if we drop to the 10-12 range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge4Tide Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Sarge4Tide said: He gets Darnold's vote.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Nope you stay put and draft an offensive playmaker preferably a WR-RB-OL in the order. There is no Saquon barkley in this draft so to waste a top 5 pick on a RB would be pretty dumb. There are some really good WRs and OL this year which could allow us to move from 2/3 down to 6/7 and still get an elite Offensive playmaker AND get back a 2nd rounder plus. That 2nd rounder can also be used on a RB/WR/OL. The top of the draft will include a QB (it always does) and Nick Bosa. So if we love 3-4 Offensive playmakers (Jonah Williams/Gregg little on the OL or AJ Brown/Nkeal Harry at WR) we can afford to trade back knowing one will definitely be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Just now, JoJoTownsell1 said: There is no Saquon barkley in this draft so to waste a top 5 pick on a RB would be pretty dumb. Many said the same thing about Todd Gurley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, section314 said: He gets Darnold's vote.? Nick Bosa & Jonah Williams? Who do you take? Best case trade back 1 & get one of them + additional picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derp Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, joewilly12 said: Many said the same thing about Todd Gurley. Gurley fell due to his injury and still went top 10... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jetster said: Nick Bosa & Jonah Williams? Who do you take? Best case trade back 1 & get one of them + additional picks. Good question. Both seem to be major difference makers, so unless you are blown away by an offer, take the one higher on your board. Feeling here, since we have the QB, Williams is the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Many said the same thing about Todd Gurley. To be clear, Gurley and Barkley were both consensus top 10 picks. There are no consensus first round RBs in this draft at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, Jetster said: Nick Bosa & Jonah Williams? Who do you take? Best case trade back 1 & get one of them + additional picks. You probably have to think about Bosa. Like you said ideal scenario a team a few slots down gives you their second and you move down and take Williams anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Bosa may be the only transcendent talent in this draft. He's going #1 to Oakland so I don't see a scenario where he falls to us but if he's there then whoever's making the pick better sprint to the podium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 If there is a LT of value there i draft the LT. I do not think there will be a rb or wr there thus i trade down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: There are some really good WRs and OL this year which could allow us to move from 2/3 down to 6/7 and still get an elite Offensive playmaker AND get back a 2nd rounder plus. That 2nd rounder can also be used on a RB/WR/OL. The top of the draft will include a QB (it always does) and Nick Bosa. So if we love 3-4 Offensive playmakers (Jonah Williams/Gregg little on the OL or AJ Brown/Nkeal Harry at WR) we can afford to trade back knowing one will definitely be there. i would love a trade back, especially since they don't have a 2nd rounder (they have 2 3rds). but that's not how mccagnan thinks. he hasn't traded back in the first round yet. and truth the main reason he's going to keep his job as gm is b/c of his first round picks. so yeah, i expect him to stay wherever he is in the first round and preach BAP and probably take an edge rusher who will be pretty good. then he'll take 2 offensive players in the 3rd, one of whom will suck and never see the field and one who will be just ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, BigRy56 said: Bosa may be the only transcendent talent in this draft. He's going #1 to Oakland so I don't see a scenario where he falls to us but if he's there then whoever's making the pick better sprint to the podium. I love Bosa and he will be a great player in the NFL, but there is something about that family that rubs me the wrong way. 1- Joey had a long holdout... could blame the Chargers, but still didn't look great 2- Joey is dealing with a season long injury that didn't originally seem like a season long injury 3- Nick Bosa suffered an injury in college and decided not to return this year, even though, he could have returned and helped his team. The family seems much more concerned with their careers than being all in for their team. That's not crazy, but if I am drafting a kid that high I want him all in and playing banged up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Augustiniak said: i would love a trade back, especially since they don't have a 2nd rounder (they have 2 3rds). but that's not how mccagnan thinks. he hasn't traded back in the first round yet. and truth the main reason he's going to keep his job as gm is b/c of his first round picks. so yeah, i expect him to stay wherever he is in the first round and preach BAP and probably take an edge rusher who will be pretty good. then he'll take 2 offensive players in the 3rd, one of whom will suck and never see the field and one who will be just ok. Based on past observations, I can't really argue you with your predictions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Draft position doesn’t matter at this point. We are already essentially a lock for top 10. We got our qb so we will trade out of it. Can you get more for 4 then 9? Sure but dude I’m done stressing about draft position. More focused on using that 90 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 20 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Based on past observations, I can't really argue you with your predictions... and while i really do want offense in the first round, if there's nobody worth taking where they pick and they get a real good pass rusher, well, at least the gm wouldn't be taking guys like coples and milliner. also i wonder if mccagnan will know he's probably going defense based on where he's picking so it will make him even more motivated to fix the offense in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 If the OT (I think they said he can play LT) from Bama is supposed to be a great prospect then I think he’s the obvious choice. I’d love to get the top pick and trade down though. That along with $90M would likely bring us the HC of our choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Yet we're only like 2 games back of a wildcard spot. Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, GreenFish said: As it stands, I prefer we trade down 5 or so slots and pickup a 2nd round pick. This draft feels like it’s going to be heavy D up top. So we should still be able to get a top offensive player if we drop to the 10-12 range. yep. the giaints and possibly the raiders are looking for qb's and it's possible the jets will finish with a worse record. there should be some pretty good trade down opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Mike135 said: Yet we're only games back of a wildcard spot. Odd. the hell is wrong with you, boy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 What would you expect Mike Maccagnan to do with a second round pick? How many decent players has he drafted outside of the top six? If (sadly, when) Mac is still in charge, he should just take the top player on his board and start preparing for round three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 BAP, cant believe he fell to us. - Mike Maccagnan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, slats said: What would you expect Mike Maccagnan to do with a second round pick? How many decent players has he drafted outside of the top six? If (sadly, when) Mac is still in charge, he should just take the top player on his board and start preparing for round three. If Mac is still here, I don’t care about a goddamm thing in this upcoming draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgivs21 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, BigRy56 said: Bosa may be the only transcendent talent in this draft. He's going #1 to Oakland so I don't see a scenario where he falls to us but if he's there then whoever's making the pick better sprint to the podium. If Oakland lands the #1 pick, don't be surprised if they take a QB. Or at least trade down w/ a team looking for a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Whomever the GM/Draft person is, they need to come up with the following from draft/FA (bare minimum): #1 WR 2 starters on the OL a legit pass rusher. and that's just to get us so we're competitive next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetfan39 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said: To be clear, Gurley and Barkley were both consensus top 10 picks. There are no consensus first round RBs in this draft at all. please, don't confuse people with the facts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I think there's a 70% chance we'll keep on picking top 5 if we don't get a real GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Treehorn Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Guys you are really losing your touch, I came here expecting tons of safety jokes. Utterly disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Call me crazy, but I hope for a world where the Jets are regularly picking in the mid to late 20's in the draft, and waiting to see what really good player fall to us, and not salivating over some 70% nonsense of picking in the top 5. But that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 The only winnable game left is the second Bills game and I thought the first one was winnable until it happened looool. 3-13 should be good enough for top 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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