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Been going over and over this in my head...only thing I don't understand about all this is that the Jets have everything going for them. A ton of cap space, a young, solid...if not budding superstar...QB, and a clear path to respectability, complete with a decaying division rival.  Aside from "it's the jets, yuck" that the national writers and football twitter love to throw at us, the jets have everything going for them...except for one thing: our coffee-swilling genius in the GMs office. Why would you hamstring an otherwise very attractive landing spot with "well, you've gotta work with this guy"?!?  Makes no sense. Anybody?

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21 minutes ago, RVAJet815 said:

Been going over and over this in my head...only thing I don't understand about all this is that the Jets have everything going for them. A ton of cap space, a young, solid...if not budding superstar...QB, and a clear path to respectability, complete with a decaying division rival.  Aside from "it's the jets, yuck" that the national writers and football twitter love to throw at us, the jets have everything going for them...except for one thing: our coffee-swilling genius in the GMs office. Why would you hamstring an otherwise very attractive landing spot with "well, you've gotta work with this guy"?!?  Makes no sense. Anybody?

Because apparently the only thing that we need is a young QB. That’s his only responsibility. Ruining everything else and putting our young QB in a terrible position is all ok. It’s like getting an amazing engine for a car restoration and ignoring the fact that you still need MANY other parts to make it run. The engine (arguably the most important part) is useless when the rest of the car is complete sh*t.

We are supposed to expect this same mechanic to magically find the parts and change everything about how he does things now? Out of the clear blue, it’ll magically get better?

Hope can be misplaced sometimes and prolong a problem rather than actually fix it. We salvagewhat we can from the Mac era and move on. 

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29 minutes ago, RVAJet815 said:

Been going over and over this in my head...only thing I don't understand about all this is that the Jets have everything going for them. A ton of cap space, a young, solid...if not budding superstar...QB, and a clear path to respectability, complete with a decaying division rival.  Aside from "it's the jets, yuck" that the national writers and football twitter love to throw at us, the jets have everything going for them...except for one thing: our coffee-swilling genius in the GMs office. Why would you hamstring an otherwise very attractive landing spot with "well, you've gotta work with this guy"?!?  Makes no sense. Anybody?

+1

It makes no sense at all to keep this bumbling GM.  He can't draft to save his life, his free agent contracts are flat out nuts.  Terrible talent evauator.  Keeping him and forcing a new HC have to deal with Mac's incredible incompetence makes zero sense. 

But then again, look who our ownership is: Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber.

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26 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

The question "Does he deserve another year?" is a stupid one.  That's the kind of question you ask about a Coordinator or maybe even a QB you're on the fence about. 

"Does he deserve another 3 years?" Is a better question, and the right question.  What has he done over the last 4 years to deserve another 3?  If you can't justify 3 more, you can't justify 1 more.  Because yet another bad draft simply cannot happen. 

We're already squandering a chunk of Darnold's rookie deal because of the failures of the last 4 drafts.  We need to be ready to rock and roll with a powerhouse front office so we can take advantage while Darnold is cheap.  Not limp along with the same old terrible front office that got us into a giant mess in the first place, with hopes that Macc "is learning". 

You would think Mac would say “ I want a longer more secure commitment, or I’m moving onto a team who will ?‍♂️?

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6 minutes ago, Jetsplayer21 said:

You would think Mac would say “ I want a longer more secure commitment, or I’m moving onto a team who will ?‍♂️?

Bahahaha.  If I'm the Johnson's, I'd be like "Hmm, I'll make some calls on that to help you out.  I think the Texans need an area scout.  Or janitor.  Something like that."

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The answer to Woodys question of “ why ?” Is easy ....access , it’s all the beat writers care about . They aren’t Jet fans ..they don’t care about wins or losses ...as a matter of fact losses are usually better for business, a guy like Cimini will lobby all day for a loser like Mac to stick around because he’s familiar with him , most likely gets along with him , and has easy access ...all unknowns with a new GM. Beat writers are garbage , the originators and pioneers of fake news. 

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Updated rankings of Jets' Mike Maccagnan's NFL Draft picks | Biggest busts, hits? How will Sam Darnold do? Best, worst selections since 2015
By Darryl Slater | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com | Posted on December 27, 2018 6:00 AM | Updated December 27, 2018 6:36 AM
 
 
 
 

The Jets are 4-11 with one game left in a miserable 2018 season. So general manager Mike Maccagnan obviously hasn't done a great job of roster building, considering the Jets went 5-11 in each of the previous two seasons. 

With that in mind, let's rank all of Maccagnan's 2015-17 NFL Draft picks right here. These rankings go from worst to best. Where will rookie quarterback Sam Darnold eventually land? 

Plus, we have a full rundown and review of Maccagnan's first three draft classes down below, as we take a big-picture look at what he has done to date. 

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John Munson | NJ Advance Media for NJ.com
 

 Maccagnan has had mixed results in the draft. 

 
 
Jets' 2018 NFL Draft class

No point in ranking these guys just yet, but here they are: 

Round 1: QB Sam Darnold

Round 3: DE Nathan Shepherd

Round 4: TE Chris Herndon

Round 6: CB Parry Nickerson

Round 6: DL Foley Fatukasi

Round 6: RB Trenton Cannon

 
 
 
22. QB Christian Hackenberg (Round 2, 2016)

STILL WITH JETS? No. 

STILL IN NFL? No.

ANALYSIS: Just an absolutely brutal, overreaching pick. No other way to put it. Hackenberg wasn't even good enough, in two seasons with the Jets, to get into a regular season game. They traded him to the Raiders for essentially nothing, and Oakland cut him after just three weeks. Then the Eagles cut him. He was on the Bengals' practice squad. But now he is with the Memphis team in the AAF. 

 
 
21. WR Devin Smith (Round 2, 2015)

STILL WITH JETS? No. 

STILL IN NFL? No. 

ANALYSIS: The Jets cut him in mid-July, before training camp began, and he remains a free agent. He has been hampered by injuries, but the bottom line remains: He hasn't gotten the job done in the NFL. In 14 career games, Smith has just 10 catches for 135 yards and one touchdown.

 

 
 

 

 
20. OLB Lorenzo Mauldin (Round 3, 2015)

STILL WITH JETS? No. 

STILL IN NFL? No. 

ANALYSIS: He hasn't been a disruptive pass rusher really at all. And he missed last season due to back surgery. Mauldin has just 6.5 career sacks. The Jets cut him after training camp, and it wasn't a surprise at all, which is saying something. He remains a free agent. 

 
 
 
 
19. QB Bryce Petty (Round 4, 2015)

STILL WITH JETS? No. 

STILL IN NFL? No.

ANALYSIS: He is a backup, ultimately -- at best. It's not like the Jets used a second-round pick on him. But he didn't play as a rookie, and then lasted just the next two seasons with the Jets. Then they cut him. His career stats: 10 games (seven starts), four touchdowns, 10 interceptions, 57.7 rating. Nice guy, but not starter material. He was with the Dolphins in training camp, but they cut him.

 
 
18. OG Jarvis Harrison (Round 5, 2015)

STILL WITH JETS? No. 

STILL IN NFL? No. 

ANALYSIS: Never played in a regular season game for the Jets ... and probably won't ever do it for anybody. The Jets waived him after just his second training camp with them. He didn't get picked up until after the 2016 season. He was a 2017 offseason member of the Buccaneers, got cut after training camp that year, and landed in the CFL. He isn't a legit NFL player. Bad pick, even though this was a fifth-rounder.

 
 
 
17. OLB Dylan Donahue (Round 5, 2017)

STILL WITH JETS? No. 

STILL IN NFL? No. 

ANALYSIS: The Jets cut him (after his second training camp with them), in the wake of his two DWI guilty pleas, for two incidents that involved car wrecks. He played in just four games last season before sustaining a season-ending elbow injury. Independent of the DWI stuff, he wasn't a very good player. After the Jets cut him, the NFL suspended him 14 weeks for his DWI crashes. That effectively wiped out his entire 2018 season.

 
 
 
 
16. WR ArDarius Stewart (Round 3, 2017)

STILL WITH JETS? No.

STILL IN NFL? Yes (on Washington's practice squad)

ANALYSIS: Stewart got popped with a two-game PED suspension to begin this season. When he returned, the Jets cut him, then put him on their practice squad when he unsurprisingly passed through waivers unclaimed. He lasted less than a month on the practice squad. An underwhelming third-round pick so far. He had just six catches for 82 yards and zero touchdowns last season. He didn't really impress in training camp this summer, either.

 
 
15. WR Chad Hansen (Round 4, 2017)

STILL WITH JETS? No. 

STILL IN NFL? Yes (on Broncos' practice squad)

ANALYSIS: Before Stewart (a third-rounder), he was the highest-selected Maccagnan draft pick so far to get cut after just one season. Jarvis Harrison (Round 5), Dylan Donahue (Round 5), and Jeremy Clark (Round 6) were also cut after one season. After the Jets waived Hansen, he landed with the Patriots for one week before being cut. Then he wound up in Denver. He had a bad 2018 training camp after a strong spring. He had nine catches for 94 yards and zero touchdowns last season.

 
 
 
14. CB Jeremy Clark (Round 6, 2017)

STILL WITH JETS? Yes.

ANALYSIS: He was still recovering from a college knee injury for most of last season. He got in just one game for the Jets as a rookie. And he was hurt for much of this preseason, as well. A no-brainer cut. He did land on the practice squad, though, so the Jets see at least some potential in him. He was promoted to the active roster in early December.

 
 
13. NT Deon Simon (Round 7, 2015)

STILL WITH JETS? No. 

STILL IN NFL? Yes (on Packers' practice squad). 

ANALYSIS: For a little while there, he was not a bad value pick at all for Maccagnan. Simon got cut after training camp this year. He landed on the Titans' practice squad, then on Green Bay's practice squad. He played in 16 games in 2016, with one start. He had 1.5 sacks in 2016. For most of 2015 and 2017, he was on the Jets' practice squad.

 
 
 
12. CB Derrick Jones (Round 6, 2017)

STILL WITH JETS? Yes. 

ANALYSIS: He is down the depth chart and has just three career games played, all last season. But he did stick on the 53-man roster coming out of training camp this year, at least. He flashed early in training camp this summer, but then cooled off. He has some upside, since he is relatively new to playing cornerback. 

 
 
 
 
11. CB Juston Burris (Round 4, 2016)

STILL WITH JETS? No. 

STILL IN NFL? Yes (with Browns). 

ANALYSIS: Never did much of anything for the Jets after losing his No. 3 cornerback job early last season. The Jets cut him in late October this year and put him on their practice squad, but the Browns quickly added him to their active roster. He has played in three games for the Browns this year after playing in four for the Jets. 

 

 
 
10. TE Jordan Leggett (Round 5, 2017)

STILL WITH JETS? Yes. 

ANALYSIS: He missed all of his rookie season with a knee injury. He stuck on the roster this year, but is down the depth chart. Chris Herndon -- a rookie this year -- has clearly passed him. Leggett's stats in 2018: 13 catches, 107 yards, one touchdown. Pretty modest. 

 
 
 
9. WR Charone Peake (Round 7, 2015)

STILL WITH JETS? Yes. 

ANALYSIS: You don't expect much from seventh-rounders, and sure enough, Peake hasn't given the Jets much on offense. But he has been a strong special teams contributor, which is why he made the 53-man roster this season over Chad Hansen and Tre McBride, two other bubble receivers. In 30 career games, he has 22 catches for 214 yards and zero touchdowns. Yet he is quite good on special teams. 

 
 
 
8. ILB Darron Lee (Round 1, 2016)

STILL WITH JETS? Yes (but suspended). 

ANALYSIS: He has been a fine starter, but not particularly elite overall. And then he got popped with a substance abuse suspension that cost him the final four games of 2018. An incredibly disappointing way for him to end what was a pretty good 2018 season. Lee showed progress in coverage -- an area where the Jets have to count on him. But can they really count on him, after this suspension? He did have three interceptions in 2018 (one returned for a touchdown). Yet that substance abuse suspension is brutal. His overall career stats -- three picks, 11 passes defended, two forced fumbles, four sacks, 17 tackles for loss -- simply aren't good enough for the 20th overall pick. He gets dinged in these rankings because of where he was picked. 

 
 
7. P Lachlan Edwards (Round 7, 2016)

STILL WITH JETS? Yes. 

ANALYSIS: Pretty solid seventh-round pick here by Maccagnan. Edwards struggled as a rookie, but improved last season. He finished 10th in yards per punt last season, compared to 34th (dead last) in 2016. The Jets might have a budding, successful punter on their hands here. He is currently ninth in the NFL in yards per punt. 

 
 
 
6. RB Eli McGuire (Round 6, 2017)

STILL WITH JETS? Yes.

ANALYSIS: A potentially strong value pick. He's been all right since returning from injured reserve this season -- 74 rushes, 235 yards, three touchdowns, plus 17 catches, 169 yards, and one touchdown. McGuire's rookie stats -- 88 carries for 315 yards and one touchdown, plus 17 catches for 177 yards and one touchdown. Not a bad start.

 
 
5. OLB Jordan Jenkins (Round 3, 2016)

STILL WITH JETS? Yes. 

ANALYSIS: Clearly, these rankings are weighted based on where a guy was picked. So we give Jenkins some extra credit for turning into a solid starter as a third-round pick, while Lee gets docked a bit for just being an OK starter as a first-rounder. Jenkins is strong against the run, but the Jets needed more from him as a pass rusher in 2018. And he has delivered on that need this season -- seven sacks, bringing his career total to 12.5. 

 
 
 
4. RT Brandon Shell (Round 5, 2016)

STILL WITH JETS? Yes. 

ANALYSIS: Again, we are bumping Shell up because he has turned into a starter as a fifth-round pick. It remains to be seen if Shell will actually be a legit, long-term starter. He just had knee surgery, which preemptively ended his second season as a starter. But as you can tell by these rankings, Maccagnan hasn't made a ton of high-impact draft picks so far.

 
 
 
 
3. S Marcus Maye (Round 2, 2017)

STILL WITH JETS? Yes. 

ANALYSIS: Very strong rookie year, and you could make a case that he was actually better than Jamal Adams. But injuries crushed Maye's second season, as he played in just six games before landing on IR with a shoulder injury. So he missed a chance to jump Leonard Williams in these rankings. Still, Maye could have a bright future -- if he can stay healthy.

 
 
2. DE Leonard Williams (Round 1, 2015)

STILL WITH JETS? Yes. 

ANALYSIS: Pretty good player, but hasn't been a star so far. For where he was drafted, he should be giving the Jets more. And he didn't take the expected leap as a pass rusher in 2018. His sack numbers simply aren't good enough, even though he does get doubled teamed. He entered the 2018 season No. 1 on this list, but has since been surpassed. His 2018 stats -- four sacks, 19 quarterback hits. His career stats -- 16 sacks, 84 quarterback hits. His Pro Bowl appearance in 2016 was as an injury replacement, so he has never been selected for a Pro Bowl, in actuality.

 
 
 
1. S Jamal Adams (Round 1, 2017)

STILL WITH JETS? Yes. 

ANALYSIS: Entering this season, it was a tough call between Adams and Maye for the second and third spots. But now, Adams is ahead of Williams as the clear No. 1 guy -- a vocal team leader who is the only Maccagnan pick with a legit Pro Bowl selection. (Again, Williams was not selected. He was a replacement.) Adams, who deservedly landed in the Pro Bowl this season, looks like a blossoming star. His career stats -- one interception, 18 passes defended, four forced fumbles, three recovered fumbles, 5.5 sacks, 18 tackles for loss, and 10 quarterback hits. 

SEE BELOW FOR AN OVERALL NUMERICAL BREAKDOWN OF MACCAGNAN'S 2015-17 PICKS ... 

 
 
 
OVERALL BREAKDOWN

Everybody ranked below Lee on this list has done little to nothing ... and even McGuire hasn't done a ton.

Here is a full breakdown of Maccagnan's 2015-17 draft picks -- 22 in all ... 

 
 
ON JETS' ROSTER, IR, OR SUSPENDED LIST (12) ...

2015 (1 of 6 picks): Williams

2016 (5 of 7 picks): Lee (suspended), Edwards, Jenkins, Shell (IR), Peake

2017 (6 of 9 picks): Jones, Leggett, Maye (IR), Adams, Clark, McGuire

 
 
 
ON OTHER ROSTERS (1) ...

2016 (1 of 7 picks): Burris

 
 
ON OTHER PRACTICE SQUADS (3)

2015 (1 of 6): Simon 

2017 (2 of 9): Stewart, Hansen 

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