maury77 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Next up is the Clemson stand out. If Bosa and Jonah are not available, is Ferrell going to be the pick at the top of round 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Sorry Maury but I don't have it in me to breakdown defensive players.....I just don't. Give me offense or give me death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share Posted November 25, 2018 long athlete who doesn't appear to be really "twitchy" Consistently uses his long arms to keep himself clean and delivers a very accurate jab quick out of a 3 point stance not very bendy with his pass rush smart player who doesn't take many false steps takes some reps out of a 2 point stance polished pass rusher who has a variety of moves and combinations that he employs Not an elite athlete, so I'm not sure he will be a consistent double digit sack guy, but I think at a minimum, he will get you 8-10 every year. I think he has a low bust potential as he relies on his length, smarts and a seasoned pass rush game. @sec101row23 , as our local Clemson guy, what are your thoughts on Ferrell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 10:10 AM, maury77 said: long athlete who doesn't appear to be really "twitchy" Consistently uses his long arms to keep himself clean and delivers a very accurate jab quick out of a 3 point stance not very bendy with his pass rush smart player who doesn't take many false steps takes some reps out of a 2 point stance polished pass rusher who has a variety of moves and combinations that he employs Not an elite athlete, so I'm not sure he will be a consistent double digit sack guy, but I think at a minimum, he will get you 8-10 every year. I think he has a low bust potential as he relies on his length, smarts and a seasoned pass rush game. @sec101row23 , as our local Clemson guy, what are your thoughts on Ferrell? I’m not sure Clelin is an elite edge prospect. He’s not explosive or fast enough to be considered elite. He’s also benefitting from playing on a loaded defensive line. With Lawrence and Wilkins doing their thing in the interior, Clelin should really be more productive IMO. He doesn’t jump out on tape like Beasley did, he doesn’t have the closing speed the elite guys have, and he’s a good not great athlete. He’s a 4-3 DE all day, I don’t like him for a 3-4 team. Not a top 5 draft pick IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 7:10 AM, maury77 said: long athlete who doesn't appear to be really "twitchy" Consistently uses his long arms to keep himself clean and delivers a very accurate jab quick out of a 3 point stance not very bendy with his pass rush smart player who doesn't take many false steps takes some reps out of a 2 point stance polished pass rusher who has a variety of moves and combinations that he employs Not an elite athlete, so I'm not sure he will be a consistent double digit sack guy, but I think at a minimum, he will get you 8-10 every year. I think he has a low bust potential as he relies on his length, smarts and a seasoned pass rush game. @sec101row23 , as our local Clemson guy, what are your thoughts on Ferrell? Great analysis, and agree across the board. I actually like Ferrel a lot, but he looks like a 4.75/40 type and doesn't bend well enough to consistently beat left tackles around the corner. He looks more like a middle/bottom first round/second round guy than a top 5 pick. But that's not to say that he's not a good football player. I love his tenacity and think he's a good pass rusher, but I see him being more of a ~8 sacks/year type guy than 10-12 sacks/year type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted December 18, 2018 Author Share Posted December 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Jack Straw said: Great analysis, and agree across the board. I actually like Ferrel a lot, but he looks like a 4.75/40 type and doesn't bend well enough to consistently beat left tackles around the corner. He looks more like a middle/bottom first round/second round guy than a top 5 pick. But that's not to say that he's not a good football player. I love his tenacity and think he's a good pass rusher, but I see him being more of a ~8 sacks/year type guy than 10-12 sacks/year type. The Clemson edge guys have been a bit disappointing at the NFL level. Beasley, Lawson, Bowers, Gaines Adams, Sapp, Branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 25 minutes ago, maury77 said: The Clemson edge guys have been a bit disappointing at the NFL level. Beasley, Lawson, Bowers, Gaines Adams, Sapp, Branch. The interior guys are better pros. DJ Reader and Carlos Watkins have been good. Wilkins and Lawrence could be better prospects than Ferrell this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 On 11/24/2018 at 7:34 PM, RobR said: Sorry Maury but I don't have it in me to breakdown defensive players.....I just don't. Give me offense or give me death. We'll miss you Rob.. j/k lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 I watched the Texas A&M game tape, thanks Murray, and wasn't overly impressed. Looked like there was a distinct lack of hustle on a lot of those plays. A definite pass if I'm the Jets picking in the top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 21 minutes ago, sec101row23 said: The interior guys are better pros. DJ Reader and Carlos Watkins have been good. Wilkins and Lawrence could be better prospects than Ferrell this year. DJ Reader is outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 not athletic enough to dominate the edge at the NFL level, kind of reminds me of Wilkerson...who went bottom of round 1 for some of the same reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 On 11/25/2018 at 10:10 AM, maury77 said: long athlete who doesn't appear to be really "twitchy" Consistently uses his long arms to keep himself clean and delivers a very accurate jab quick out of a 3 point stance not very bendy with his pass rush smart player who doesn't take many false steps takes some reps out of a 2 point stance polished pass rusher who has a variety of moves and combinations that he employs Not an elite athlete, so I'm not sure he will be a consistent double digit sack guy, but I think at a minimum, he will get you 8-10 every year. I think he has a low bust potential as he relies on his length, smarts and a seasoned pass rush game. @sec101row23 , as our local Clemson guy, what are your thoughts on Ferrell? We haven’t had an EDGE who could get 8-10 sacks since Abraham 13 friggin years ago. I prefer Allen but Ferrell would be nice too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 On 12/18/2018 at 1:57 PM, maury77 said: The Clemson edge guys have been a bit disappointing at the NFL level. Beasley, Lawson, Bowers, Gaines Adams, Sapp, Branch. Beasley has been a good pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 On 12/28/2018 at 10:00 AM, Philc1 said: We haven’t had an EDGE who could get 8-10 sacks since Abraham 13 friggin years ago. I prefer Allen but Ferrell would be nice too Jordan Jenkins may get there tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 On 11/26/2018 at 9:08 AM, sec101row23 said: I’m not sure Clelin is an elite edge prospect. He’s not explosive or fast enough to be considered elite. He’s also benefitting from playing on a loaded defensive line. With Lawrence and Wilkins doing their thing in the interior, Clelin should really be more productive IMO. He doesn’t jump out on tape like Beasley did, he doesn’t have the closing speed the elite guys have, and he’s a good not great athlete. He’s a 4-3 DE all day, I don’t like him for a 3-4 team. Not a top 5 draft pick IMO. That's exactly what I saw tonight word for word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 11 minutes ago, Larz said: That's exactly what I saw tonight word for word i agree, he just doesn't pass the eye test. watching the kid from Florida earlier today, he looked absolutely more explosive coming off the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 14 minutes ago, k-met57 said: i agree, he just doesn't pass the eye test. watching the kid from Florida earlier today, he looked absolutely more explosive coming off the edge. Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, Larz said: Who? Jachai Polite...kid has serious speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, k-met57 said: Jachai Polite...kid has serious speed. Ah yes I've seen that name. Consider him at our draft spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-met57 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Ah yes I've seen that name. Consider him at our draft spot? I don’t know I haven’t seen enough to see if he can drop back or play the run. Can’t really take a 1 trick pony in the top 3. Def interested to see more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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