Ken Schroy Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 After the CS purge. (I would like to see McScaggnan gone as well) My very short List: Keepers - Sam Darnold QB, Jamal Adams SS, Marcus Maye FS, Quincy Enunwa WR, Chris Herndon TE, Spencer Long LG, Henry Anderson DT On The Bubble - Beachum, Shell, All the LB's, Davis Webb, Leonard (wake when its over) Williams, Brian (it wasn't me) winters, Isiah Crowell Want Gone - Trumaine (the thief) Johnson, Claiborne, Buster (you cant get way from me) Skrine, Carpenter, Elijah (stone hands) McGuire, Robbie (I cant go over the middle) Anderson, Jermaine (out of bounds) Kearse, Charone (I suck) Peake Feel free to make changes. This has to be the earliest I have ever done this, and that's saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Trumaine isnt going anywhere. He’s got way too much contract and money left on his deal. and Avery Williamson is a keeper — and also has too much money left on his contract. lotta’ these guys don’t make any sense to cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: Trumaine isnt going anywhere. He’s got way too much contract and money left on his deal. He sux. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Dump any players that defend Todd Bowles. If that includes Adams... so be it. I can't tolerate anybody saying even one positive word about that incorrigible moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 26 minutes ago, Ken Shroy said: Want Gone - Trumaine (the thief) Johnson, Claiborne, Buster (you cant get way from me) Skrine, Carpenter, Elijah (stone hands) McGuire, Robbie (I cant go over the middle) Anderson, Jermaine (out of bounds) Kearse, Charone (I suck) Peake You have to ask yourself what happened to Trumaine. He was considered one of the best press corners the previous year. Why does he suck so much this year? Doesn't care? Hurt? Given Up? Not used correctly? - you have to wonder if he plays better next year under a different coaching staff. Kearse isn't great and made some mistakes, but on a team without a ton of play makers, he isn't bad. Peake is great on ST. Robbie Anderson may not be great over the middle, so why put him in that position. For me, it depends entirely on how much money he wants. You can replace the entire roster - even marginal players have a role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 15 minutes ago, bostonmajet said: You have to ask yourself what happened to Trumaine. He was considered one of the best press corners the previous year. Why does he suck so much this year? Doesn't care? Hurt? Given Up? Not used correctly? - you have to wonder if he plays better next year under a different coaching staff. Kearse isn't great and made some mistakes, but on a team without a ton of play makers, he isn't bad. Peake is great on ST. Robbie Anderson may not be great over the middle, so why put him in that position. For me, it depends entirely on how much money he wants. You can replace the entire roster - even marginal players have a role. I've noticed we often have press guys play soft. Like 10 yard cushion soft consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark78 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Leo needs to go; he is mediocre. Not gonna spend big bucks on him! I was always a supporter of his and felt he got too much criticism. After this season, he can go to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 20 minutes ago, bostonmajet said: You have to ask yourself what happened to Trumaine. He was considered one of the best press corners the previous year. Why does he suck so much this year? Doesn't care? Hurt? Given Up? Not used correctly? - you have to wonder if he plays better next year under a different coaching staff. Kearse isn't great and made some mistakes, but on a team without a ton of play makers, he isn't bad. Peake is great on ST. Robbie Anderson may not be great over the middle, so why put him in that position. For me, it depends entirely on how much money he wants. You can replace the entire roster - even marginal players have a role. Always beware the DB or corner who looks good and A: Is on a team with a dominant pass rush and B: The team he is leaving is letting him walk and going after other high price corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 50 minutes ago, Ken Shroy said: He sux. Ok agreed but he won’t be going anywhere because of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 None Is none good for you? I say none Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 My worry is who we are going to overpay to replace some of these guys. Other than possibly getting bell who are we picking up? If we miss on bell i can see us over paying for tevin coleman or ingram I can see us over paying for a pass rusher like dee ford The 0line crop is awful as it is most years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot K Tailgaters Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Williamson and Adams are the two defensive guys I don’t want to go anywhere. Both play with high intensity and never take a play off. I’d also keep Maye and Henry Anderson. Maybe Leonard Williams. I would get rid of Skrine (he is consistently inconsistent) and Trumaine Johnson right away (reality is Johnson is staying here another two years) Offense I would cut Anderson (bad attitude), Crowell, Beachum, and Long. I’d keep Darnold, Shell, Enunwa, Kearse (he’s good as a third or fourth receiver), Powell and Herndon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Claw Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Ken Shroy said: Keepers - Sam Darnold QB, Jamal Adams SS, Marcus Maye FS, Quincy Enunwa WR, Chris Herndon TE, Spencer Long LG, Henry Anderson DT On The Bubble - Beachum, Shell, All the LB's, Davis Webb, Leonard (wake when its over) Williams, Brian (it wasn't me) winters, Isiah Crowell Want Gone - Trumaine (the thief) Johnson, Claiborne, Buster (you cant get way from me) Skrine, Carpenter, Elijah (stone hands) McGuire, Robbie (I cant go over the middle) Anderson, Jermaine (out of bounds) Kearse, Charone (I suck) Peake Keepers: Darnold, , Enunwa, Herndon, McGuire, Shell, Winters, H. Anderson, Williamson, Lee, Williams, Shepherd, Pennel, T Johnson, Adams, Maye On the Bubble: Beachum, Jenkins, Webb, McCown, Crowell, Leggett,, Skrine, Long, Pearse. Want Gone:: Carpenter, R. Anderson, Kearse, Cannon I don't understand how you can have Long in your "keep" pile and McGuire in your "gone" pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I'm a big fan of Andre Roberts as a kick returner ... Nice to not have my heart in my throat every time the punts/kick offs are being caught like Kearse as a reasonable priced #3 WR keep Lachlan Edwards have trouble with the idea of keeping Spencer due to the atrocious snaps ... But I am unable to judge him fairly on just his blocking ability ... So am ok with a move of him to OG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I'm not sure who the long snapper is, which actually is high praise for the position. He along with the P and K should stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Ken Shroy said: After the CS purge. (I would like to see McScaggnan gone as well) My very short List: Keepers - Sam Darnold QB, Jamal Adams SS, Marcus Maye FS, Quincy Enunwa WR, Chris Herndon TE, Spencer Long LG, Henry Anderson DT On The Bubble - Beachum, Shell, All the LB's, Davis Webb, Leonard (wake when its over) Williams, Brian (it wasn't me) winters, Isiah Crowell Want Gone - Trumaine (the thief) Johnson, Claiborne, Buster (you cant get way from me) Skrine, Carpenter, Elijah (stone hands) McGuire, Robbie (I cant go over the middle) Anderson, Jermaine (out of bounds) Kearse, Charone (I suck) Peake Feel free to make changes. This has to be the earliest I have ever done this, and that's saying something. Keep the keepers. Keep the bubblers, except I would not pay Williams real money. He will be very good next year, his option year. Then maybe you trade him for a second. We may end up drafting another DL. Winters has 2 years left on his contract, and Beachum and Shell 1. They will play better next year. Get rid of the goners, except that TruJo gets another year, but the Jets should consider cutting him in 2020 when his cap hit is manageable and they save cash. With that being said, TruJo also has a good year next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Mark78 said: Leo needs to go; he is mediocre. Not gonna spend big bucks on him! I was always a supporter of his and felt he got too much criticism. After this season, he can go to hell. Great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 in Green Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Lot K Tailgaters said: Williamson and Adams are the two defensive guys I don’t want to go anywhere. Both play with high intensity and never take a play off. I’d also keep Maye and Henry Anderson. Maybe Leonard Williams. I would get rid of Skrine (he is consistently inconsistent) and Trumaine Johnson right away (reality is Johnson is staying here another two years) Offense I would cut Anderson (bad attitude), Crowell, Beachum, and Long. I’d keep Darnold, Shell, Enunwa, Kearse (he’s good as a third or fourth receiver), Powell and Herndon. Not being snarky. Can you explain why you and others think it’s a good idea to resign Leo to what would be a pretty big contract? I think his level of production could be filled much cheaper with someone else. Then again, I’m no game film buff, am I missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 One wonders if a new GM will come in and look to trade Leonard Williams and/or Darron Lee right away instead of getting stuck paying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 27, 2018 Author Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 hour ago, the Claw said: Keepers: Darnold, , Enunwa, Herndon, McGuire, Shell, Winters, H. Anderson, Williamson, Lee, Williams, Shepherd, Pennel, T Johnson, Adams, Maye On the Bubble: Beachum, Jenkins, Webb, McCown, Crowell, Leggett,, Skrine, Long, Pearse. Want Gone:: Carpenter, R. Anderson, Kearse, Cannon I don't understand how you can have Long in your "keep" pile and McGuire in your "gone" pile. McGuire cant catch for sh*t. Long as a guard only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lot K Tailgaters Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, 14 in Green said: Not being snarky. Can you explain why you and others think it’s a good idea to resign Leo to what would be a pretty big contract? I think his level of production could be filled much cheaper with someone else. Then again, I’m no game film buff, am I missing something here? We already picked up his option for next season. While he’s made comments that Bowles leaving could affect his free agency status I still believe he could excel with another coach/coordinator. While I feel terrible about the situation Kacey Rogers has going on, the two games he didn’t coach our defense played great. I wouldn’t sign him to a massive deal but would let him play his option year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Lot K Tailgaters said: Williamson and Adams are the two defensive guys I don’t want to go anywhere. Both play with high intensity and never take a play off. I’d also keep Maye and Henry Anderson. Maybe Leonard Williams. I would get rid of Skrine (he is consistently inconsistent) and Trumaine Johnson right away (reality is Johnson is staying here another two years) Offense I would cut Anderson (bad attitude), Crowell, Beachum, and Long. I’d keep Darnold, Shell, Enunwa, Kearse (he’s good as a third or fourth receiver), Powell and Herndon. Kearse has 100% punched his ticket out of town with his play this year. He has been pure awful outside of the last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Blitz Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Gotta keep Jason '55 yards automatic' Myers, outstanding season from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 9 hours ago, Embrace the Suck said: I've noticed we often have press guys play soft. Like 10 yard cushion soft consistently. yep. even revis, under bowles, played off. these guys aren't doing this because they want to but because they are being told that's where they need to play. maybe on some schemes it's the right place to be but imo i'd rather see them playing up on the line giving the receiver a nice bump at the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Using cap dollars to sign a DT next year for much less than what Leo Williams agent will want. Now if you can sign him based on his production than I'm fine with it. As far as Lee goes, just look what Belichick & Daniels did to the Jets using the run game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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