drsamuel84 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Remember our former running back's coach? Seems to be doing a pretty damn good job with the Chargers. An offensive minded coach who was right in our backyard and we let him get away. Just want to give props to a former Jets coach who's actually doing pretty well as an HC. Of course having Whisenhunt as his OC def. helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Just now, drsamuel84 said: Remember our former running back's coach? Seems to be doing a pretty damn good job with the Chargers. An offensive minded coach who was right in our backyard and we let him get away. Just want to give props to a former Jets coach who's actually doing pretty well as an HC. Of course having Whisenhunt as his OC def. helps. Yup. Got away from Rex, is doing his thing in LA and got the Chargers rolling. I think Rivers completed his first 26 passes against the Cards in route to destroying that team. I remember during the beginning of the season, like every season, you look at the Chargers team and you feel like they should be contenders. But for some reason it just doesnt work out that way. This year they could change that narrative. I looked at that team on paper and it's probably the most complete team Rivers has ever had while in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, drsamuel84 said: Remember our former running back's coach? Seems to be doing a pretty damn good job with the Chargers. An offensive minded coach who was right in our backyard and we let him get away. Just want to give props to a former Jets coach who's actually doing pretty well as an HC. Of course having Whisenhunt as his OC def. helps. Rivers helps too but he's still doing a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I always liked what I read about Lynn and how he handled his players. If I recall correctly, he was interviewed as our Rooney rule candidate one year but was never really given a fair shake. I always felt like he (and Westoff) could have been good HC's for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, drsamuel84 said: Remember our former running back's coach? Seems to be doing a pretty damn good job with the Chargers. An offensive minded coach who was right in our backyard and we let him get away. Just want to give props to a former Jets coach who's actually doing pretty well as an HC. Of course having Whisenhunt as his OC def. helps. Just finished Hard Knocks with the Jets and he comes off as an intelligent guy who gets it. He can push but not be overwhelming. I really like the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Imagine Lynn with the 2018 Jets...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Isn't Rex's son the WR coach or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 24 minutes ago, jmat321 said: Isn't Rex's son the WR coach or something? He's an intern. Lynn's son D'Anton was a 4.77 CB with 29" arms that we had in camp during the Rex years. Later he came back as a coaching intern. He's now on the Texans staff as an assistant assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 He's doing a good job but honestly that's a stacked team that has been under-performing for the last few years (including last year, when Lynn was the coach.) I'm not sold he's anything special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 hour ago, drsamuel84 said: Remember our former running back's coach? Seems to be doing a pretty damn good job with the Chargers. An offensive minded coach who was right in our backyard and we let him get away. Just want to give props to a former Jets coach who's actually doing pretty well as an HC. Of course having Whisenhunt as his OC def. helps. I remember at the time, people were like eh on him. Still dont know why Whisenhunt's name doesnt show up more. He got the Cardinals to a Super Bowl for god sakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 2 hours ago, drsamuel84 said: Remember our former running back's coach? Seems to be doing a pretty damn good job with the Chargers. An offensive minded coach who was right in our backyard and we let him get away. Just want to give props to a former Jets coach who's actually doing pretty well as an HC. Of course having Whisenhunt as his OC def. helps. Rivers/Gordon/Ekler/Allen/Williams/Williams.... That's an elite QB, elite RB and elite WR for him to work with. Any OC that COULDN'T produce with those players should be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 5 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Rivers/Gordon/Ekler/Allen/Williams/Williams.... That's an elite QB, elite RB and elite WR for him to work with. Any OC that COULDN'T produce with those players should be fired. Scrolled down to post the same exact thing. Philip Rivers is a Top 5 NFL QB (and don't try to debate that he isn't) > Sam Darnold Melvin Gordon > Isaiah Crowell and Eli McGuire Ekler > Isaiah Crowell and Eli McGuire Keenan Allen > Every Jets WR Williams > Every Jets WR (could possibly debate Enunwa but I'd still take Williams) The Jets do not have a single player on their offense out of 11 who would start for the Chargers. Not.A.Single.One. Isaiah Crowell, Quincy Enunwa, Robby Anderson, Jermaine Kearse, Chris Herndon and Sam Darnold would ALL be on the bench if they were Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Scrolled down to post the same exact thing. Philip Rivers is a Top 5 NFL QB (and don't try to debate that he isn't) > Sam Darnold Melvin Gordon > Isaiah Crowell and Eli McGuire Ekler > Isaiah Crowell and Eli McGuire Keenan Allen > Every Jets WR Williams > Every Jets WR (could possibly debate Enunwa but I'd still take Williams) The Jets do not have a single player on their offense out of 11 who would start for the Charger. Not.A.Single.One. Isaiah Crowell, Quincy Enunwa, Robby Anderson, Jermaine Kearse, Chris Herndon and Sam Darnold would ALL be on the bench if they were Chargers. Herndon I think would start. They have ancient Antonio Gates right now And I think Enunwa would start over Tyrell Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Scrolled down to post the same exact thing. Philip Rivers is a Top 5 NFL QB (and don't try to debate that he isn't) > Sam Darnold Melvin Gordon > Isaiah Crowell and Eli McGuire Ekler > Isaiah Crowell and Eli McGuire Keenan Allen > Every Jets WR Williams > Every Jets WR The Jets do not have a single player on their offense out of 11 who would start for the Charger. Not.A.Single.One. Isaiah Crowell, Quincy Enunwa, Robby Anderson, Jermaine Kearse, Chris Herndon and Sam Darnold would ALL be on the bench if they were Chargers. That ton of talent includes a 3rd rounder and 2 UDFA. Maybe the Jets would be better off if they had spent some of their money on Okung and Pouncey. The team is missing Hunter Henry and Forest Lamp has been a non-factor. Their D may actually be outplaying their O and they are missing Verrett and Bosa just came back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: Herndon I think would start. They have ancient Antonio Gates right now And I think Enunwa would start over Tyrell Williams Possibly on Herndon but the Chargers still have better (although injured) talent in Hunter Henry. Again, debatable on Enunwa vs. Tyrell Williams but we're still saying it's not clear whether the Jets #1 WR could be the #2 on the Chargers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: Scrolled down to post the same exact thing. Philip Rivers is a Top 5 NFL QB (and don't try to debate that he isn't) > Sam Darnold Melvin Gordon > Isaiah Crowell and Eli McGuire Ekler > Isaiah Crowell and Eli McGuire Keenan Allen > Every Jets WR Williams > Every Jets WR (could possibly debate Enunwa but I'd still take Williams) The Jets do not have a single player on their offense out of 11 who would start for the Charger. Not.A.Single.One. Isaiah Crowell, Quincy Enunwa, Robby Anderson, Jermaine Kearse, Chris Herndon and Sam Darnold would ALL be on the bench if they were Chargers. Not only the Chargers, they would be bench warmers on 75%+ of the NFL rosters I bet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 29 minutes ago, UnitedWhofans said: I remember at the time, people were like eh on him. Still dont know why Whisenhunt's name doesnt show up more. He got the Cardinals to a Super Bowl for god sakes. Love Wisenhunt. He should be the guy we hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: Not only the Chargers, they would be bench warmers on 75%+ of the NFL rosters I bet Absolutely. I posted about that a while ago. How many Jets starters on offense would start for other NFL teams? It's a serious question that has a pretty sad answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Lynn's a good coach. Having Rivers helps him be a good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Love Wisenhunt. He should be the guy we hire. He has a checkered history but does have some success, and he's from the offensive side of the ball having started his career in Pittsburgh as TE coach. Like most coaches, he's done well when he's had talent. Took Arizona to a Super Bowl with Kurt Warner and a Larry Fitzgerald in his prime. After Warner retired and the team lost some talent he regressed. Three straight non-playoff years resulted in his firing in 2012. He did one year with the Chargers in 2013 as Offensive Coordinator and looked great, turning around the Chargers offense and helping them win a playoff game. But after that one season as OC with the Chargers he was hired as HC again in Tennessee and totally bombed. Coach Wiz (as they called him out here in Arizona) went 2-14 in his first season (this was after the Titans went 7-9 the year before). The following year was just as bad. The Titans started the season 1-6 and fired Wiz in midseason. So that's a 3-20 record in his last stint as HC before he went back to being an OC with the Chargers in 2016. Bottom line - He's done well when he's coached multiple Pro Bowlers on offense. When he hasn't had talent he's looked a lot like Todd Bowles as HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 First off congrats to Anthony Lynn I wish him the best. but there's no way Anthony Lynn knows more about coaching than Todd Bowles the guy was a dim bulb when he was here now he's some great HC? No way. Lynn's roster has playmakers and this roster has mostly trash. He has an ownership with a new stadium opening in 2020 committed to spending to the cap etc and the Jets have an ownership who doesn't give a crap less, literally checked out to another country 3000 miles away. Todd Bowles is ultimately responsible but it's not the X and O's it's the Jimmy's and Joe's. The Jets roster is like a horse that needs to be taken to the glue factory and the fanbase is obsessed with finding a better jockey. The fact they compete at all is surprising. The Jets, as a franchise, are just keeping the lights on. Anthony Lynn in charge of this wouldn't be better and in fact I wonder if a "good" coach would be able to win with this roster. Who is scoring the touchdowns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 11/27/2018 at 4:31 PM, jetstream23 said: Absolutely. I posted about that a while ago. How many Jets starters on offense would start for other NFL teams? It's a serious question that has a pretty sad answer. This is why I hate the argument of “Mac has drafted ____ amount of starters so he’s doing well. De facto starters are not true starters. They only start because this team is straight up trash. The entire offense Lee,Jenkins, whoever the other starting OLB is etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 8 minutes ago, bitonti said: First off congrats to Anthony Lynn I wish him the best. but there's no way Anthony Lynn knows more about coaching than Todd Bowles the guy was a dim bulb when he was here now he's some great HC? No way. Lynn's roster has playmakers and this roster has mostly trash. He has an ownership with a new stadium opening in 2020 committed to spending to the cap etc and the Jets have an ownership who doesn't give a crap less, literally checked out to another country 3000 miles away. Todd Bowles is ultimately responsible but it's not the X and O's it's the Jimmy's and Joe's. The Jets roster is like a horse that needs to be taken to the glue factory and the fanbase is obsessed with finding a better jockey. The fact they compete at all is surprising. The Jets, as a franchise, are just keeping the lights on. Anthony Lynn in charge of this wouldn't be better and in fact I wonder if a "good" coach would be able to win with this roster. Who is scoring the touchdowns? Why would you say Anthony Lynn is dim? He was hired by the usual HOF suspects - Parcells and Shanahan. The run game was pretty good when he was with the Jets. I get that the roster is a huge problem, but Lynn deserves some credit until proven otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 18 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Why would you say Anthony Lynn is dim? He was hired by the usual HOF suspects - Parcells and Shanahan. The run game was pretty good when he was with the Jets. I get that the roster is a huge problem, but Lynn deserves some credit until proven otherwise. Personally, Bowles is the best HC the Johnson's have hired since Parcells/BB/Hess death. I don't think either he or Lynn are dumb. I said Lynn was Dim somewhat sarcastically the way that people say Bowles is dim. Bowles was hired by Parcells and Reid. Lynn deserves credit sure and Bowles deserves blame but swap rosters then I'll be impressed. Mike McCarthy just got fired he has a top 5 QB in all of football, Lynn has Rivers and a million other stars, Bowles has Jason Myers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Personally, Bowles is the best HC the Johnson's have hired since Parcells/BB/Hess death. I don't think either he or Lynn are dumb. I said Lynn was Dim somewhat sarcastically the way that people say Bowles is dim. Bowles was hired by Parcells and Reid. Lynn deserves credit sure and Bowles deserves blame but swap rosters then I'll be impressed. Mike McCarthy just got fired he has a top 5 QB in all of football, Lynn has Rivers and a million other stars, Bowles has Jason Myers. Good point. In summary, Lynn is winning with a talented roster and a HOF QB. McCarthy was losing with a mediocre roster but a HOF QB. Bowles is losing with bad talent and either a rookie QB or an over-the-hill QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Lynn, Nagy, Reich — the list of good HCs we took a pass on to keep Bowles around cuz “we aren’t the browns” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Personally, Bowles is the best HC the Johnson's have hired since Parcells/BB/Hess death. I don't think either he or Lynn are dumb. I said Lynn was Dim somewhat sarcastically the way that people say Bowles is dim. Bowles was hired by Parcells and Reid. Lynn deserves credit sure and Bowles deserves blame but swap rosters then I'll be impressed. Mike McCarthy just got fired he has a top 5 QB in all of football, Lynn has Rivers and a million other stars, Bowles has Jason Myers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Personally, Bowles is the best HC the Johnson's have hired since Parcells/BB/Hess death. I don't think either he or Lynn are dumb. I said Lynn was Dim somewhat sarcastically the way that people say Bowles is dim. Bowles was hired by Parcells and Reid. Lynn deserves credit sure and Bowles deserves blame but swap rosters then I'll be impressed. Mike McCarthy just got fired he has a top 5 QB in all of football, Lynn has Rivers and a million other stars, Bowles has Jason Myers. You have quite clearly gone insane. I honestly cannot even fathom how anyone could have that view. Okay actually i can. If a person thought bowles was a great hire and listened to the guys pumping him up and then are the type to REFUSE to admit they were 100% wrong, then maybe. I was not around for the kotite era but Bowles is magnitudes worse than any other coach this team has had since parcells. And i say this feeling that rex was pure awful his last 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Beerfish said: You have quite clearly gone insane. I honestly cannot even fathom how anyone could have that view. Okay actually i can. If a person thought bowles was a great hire and listened to the guys pumping him up and then are the type to REFUSE to admit they were 100% wrong, then maybe. I was not around for the kotite era but Bowles is magnitudes worse than any other coach this team has had since parcells. And i say this feeling that rex was pure awful his last 3 years. Bowles is bad as Kotite. I was there. I’ve seen both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, bitonti said: Personally, Bowles is the best HC the Johnson's have hired since Parcells/BB/Hess death. I don't think either he or Lynn are dumb. I said Lynn was Dim somewhat sarcastically the way that people say Bowles is dim. Bowles was hired by Parcells and Reid. Lynn deserves credit sure and Bowles deserves blame but swap rosters then I'll be impressed. Mike McCarthy just got fired he has a top 5 QB in all of football, Lynn has Rivers and a million other stars, Bowles has Jason Myers. This may be the most asinine post I have ever seen on a message board. To say Bowles has been the best Jets hire at HC since Woody took over is... I'm at a loss for words for how ridiculous that statement is. Bowles is easily the worst HC we have had since kotite and he's close to kotite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Bowles is bad as Kotite. I was there. I’ve seen both. We are doing things not seen since the kotite era. The two are very comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetFreak89 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 26 minutes ago, nyjunc said: We are doing things not seen since the kotite era. The two are very comparable. You mean like 3 offensive touchdowns in the last 5 games bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, JetFreak89 said: You mean like 3 offensive touchdowns in the last 5 games bad? In 1995 we had a stretch of only 6 offensive TDs in 7 games, in that stretch as a team we didn't score more than 17 pts in any single game. This Bowles era(especially the last 2 years) is so reminiscent of the Kotite era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: You have quite clearly gone insane. I honestly cannot even fathom how anyone could have that view. Okay actually i can. If a person thought bowles was a great hire and listened to the guys pumping him up and then are the type to REFUSE to admit they were 100% wrong, then maybe. I was not around for the kotite era but Bowles is magnitudes worse than any other coach this team has had since parcells. And i say this feeling that rex was pure awful his last 3 years. rex ryan is the all time franchise leader in playoff wins Note i didn't say Bowles was a genius what I said was the best they've found since Groh and I don't think that's an outlandish statement. It's a low bar. this will be the 6th coach the Johnsons have hired in less than 20 years. the real issue is no one should have faith they can do better. They don't even know what consultant they will hire to find the next coach, let alone who the next coach will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 hours ago, bitonti said: First off congrats to Anthony Lynn I wish him the best. but there's no way Anthony Lynn knows more about coaching than Todd Bowles the guy was a dim bulb when he was here now he's some great HC? No way. Lynn's roster has playmakers and this roster has mostly trash. He has an ownership with a new stadium opening in 2020 committed to spending to the cap etc and the Jets have an ownership who doesn't give a crap less, literally checked out to another country 3000 miles away. Todd Bowles is ultimately responsible but it's not the X and O's it's the Jimmy's and Joe's. The Jets roster is like a horse that needs to be taken to the glue factory and the fanbase is obsessed with finding a better jockey. The fact they compete at all is surprising. The Jets, as a franchise, are just keeping the lights on. Anthony Lynn in charge of this wouldn't be better and in fact I wonder if a "good" coach would be able to win with this roster. Who is scoring the touchdowns? @Maxman This belongs on Twitter. Perfectly stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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