Kleckineau Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 What a bum he has turned into. He spent most of this game getting up off his back. Official stat line? 1/2 tackle Buh bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Eh. I can’t judge players too harshly anymore on this team with bowles. Bowles does nothing with talent to make them better. Adams career will be saved by the new change while it’s still early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kleckineau said: What a bum he has turned into. He spent most of this game getting up off his back. Official stat line? 1/2 tackle Buh bye. Maybe should start playing with the space suit and helmet from his dumb commercial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usapaw Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Can you really hate him when he sees what a pathetic disgrace this organization is? We embrace losing and he has always been a winner. He wants to get out and I cant blame him. Management has to prove to the best players that they want to change but they don't seem to want to? Sso why does this make Leo a bad guy??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 To be fair, Mo Wilkerson was a lot more talented than Leonard Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 He will be franchise tagged and get one more year to prove himself?Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop24 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Lol it’s funny how 3 all pro caliber dlinemen suddenly can’t play under Bowles and Rodgers .. sheldon seems to have regained form in Minnesota tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 This is on Bowles as well. He merely watched as guys like mo wilk, revis and shelrich floated and nothing happened except they were praised by our fool coach. For a Parcells 'disciple this guy is as far from that as you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio State NY Jets fan Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 playing for kacytodd is probably not very motivating - lets see how he does with new coaching staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I noticed that too Couldn't stay on his feet He never got into great shape as an NFL player No way he gets paid and works harder Damn Shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 For all of the talk of the team fighting for Bowles, the writing is on the wall. Players have either given up or are done being used incorrectly. Even Robby. Yeah, he is acting like a punk again, but this always happens more at the end of the season when the team and specifically the O is stagnate (crappy). I would rather have him act out then players just giving up. Hopefully a new coach can save more than one career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 He is Mr Invisible out there. If he wasnt the #6 pick no one would talk about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 B-but he's double teamed!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrickTamland Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 So Shocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Does he still play for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 32 minutes ago, T0mShane said: To be fair, Mo Wilkerson was a lot more talented than Leonard Williams. But did you see Williams in spring practices? Absolutely unblockable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 37 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Eh. I can’t judge players too harshly anymore on this team with bowles. Bowles does nothing with talent to make them better. Adams career will be saved by the new change while it’s still early. 100% correct. Good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 35 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: He will be franchise tagged and get one more year to prove himself? Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app This sounds like a Jetsy move so likely. No way they should give him 14 mill next season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 35 minutes ago, Beerfish said: This is on Bowles as well. He merely watched as guys like mo wilk, revis and shelrich floated and nothing happened except they were praised by our fool coach. For a Parcells 'disciple this guy is as far from that as you can get. Mo and Sheldon watched Revis and Cro walk all over Bowles. Darron Lee and Leonard Williams watched Mo and Sheldon walk all over Bowles. sh*t is linear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 he was very simply vastly overrated by the whole NFL scouting apparatus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 This sounds like a Jetsy move so likely. No way they should give him 14 mill next season though.It is alot of money. Would hate to see him go to another team and be a star behind a coach who belongs in the nfl.Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, Jack Straw said: But did you see Williams in spring practices? Absolutely unblockable. Did you see the Jets O-like? Absolutely unable to block. It was a match made in heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 50 minutes ago, bealeb319 said: He will be franchise tagged and get one more year to prove himself? Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Jets have an option for a 5th year, so no franchise tag needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmnj Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 our players have no heart and leadership starts with coaching LW is slow and lazy and shows no heart I miss rex he would get all of these number one picks to play some defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 New coach will come in and after year 1 will weed out all the the players bowles has enabled since hes been here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Kleckineau said: What a bum he has turned into. He spent most of this game getting up off his back. Official stat line? 1/2 tackle Buh bye. This is a low blow. If Wilkerson was here, he would be really insulted right now lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, bealeb319 said: He will be franchise tagged and get one more year to prove himself? Sent from my LGUS991 using JetNation.com mobile app Jets already exercised the $14 million 5th-year option for 2019. https://nypost.com/2018/04/21/jets-pick-up-fifth-year-option-on-leonard-williams-contract/ A franchise tag would be for 2020 and he is obviously nowhere near franchise tag worthy. And it's looking like $14 million for another year isn't worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, Dcat said: Jets already exercised the $14 million 5th-year option for 2019. https://nypost.com/2018/04/21/jets-pick-up-fifth-year-option-on-leonard-williams-contract/ A franchise tag would be for 2020 and he is obviously nowhere near franchise tag worthy. And it's looking like $14 million for another year isn't worth it. That’s the beauty of the option. They can change their mind before the season starts. I’d trade him for anything because any team interested would know that he’s not worth that salary and that we’d probably cut him. Maybe we can get a 4th for him or something and not have his cap hit. I know we have cap space and wouldn’t mind overpaying a little but this guy has become garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 The whole team mailed this one in except maybe Crowell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 2 hours ago, T0mShane said: To be fair, Mo Wilkerson was a lot more talented than Leonard Williams. People might rip you for this, but 100% right. Better athlete and had two double digit sack seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alka Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 As someone has already said, he was double teamed all game. This is not an indictment on Leonard Williams, but an indictment on the fact that the other D-linemen are not good enough to double-team. We need better corners, better middle linebackers, and a pass rusher who will allow Leonard Williams not to get double-teamed on every play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creepy Lurker Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 16 minutes ago, Alka said: As someone has already said, he was double teamed all game. This is not an indictment on Leonard Williams, but an indictment on the fact that the other D-linemen are not good enough to double-team. We need better corners, better middle linebackers, and a pass rusher who will allow Leonard Williams not to get double-teamed on every play. I saw plenty of plays where he wasn’t. I think this excuse is way overblown. He gets doubled but who doesn’t? 3-4 D line is notorious for players getting doubled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I love the "he was double teamed excuse". If you want to be great you will get double teamed, the top players still find a way to produce when double teamed. I am not giving up on him, I think losing wears down players. Remember how fat and lazy Mo Lewis got in the mid 90s then was rejuvenated under parcells. Leonard needs a fresh start w/ a real HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 This is a very poorly coached team. Leo doesn't use his hands well. Doesn't get low enough alot. Receiver spacing is terrible. They showed that yesterday. Bates is a horror show. The only coaches earning their money., is greene, and Boyer, the special teams guy. Maybe dennison, considering the talent level there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Leo was over Drafted. He's a run stuffing 3-4 DE. As for the double team narrative. J.J Watt, Arron Donald get double teamed. The difference is they often break the double team, and make plays. Leo does not, trade him get that second back we paid for Sam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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